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This guy turned down a contract and bet on himself, having a monster season. 40 doubles 43 Homer's and over 100 rbi..he's going to get a huge contract.

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He's coming home...

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With Tatis and Semien and all of the current White Sox players it is clear that the White Sox are a world class organization in identifying elite talent.

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With Tatis and Semien and all of the current White Sox players it is clear that the White Sox are a world class organization in identifying elite talent.


Yep.

Scouting has been world class.

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He's coming home...


5 -100 $ ?

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He's cumming home...


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Brick wrote:
With Tatis and Semien and all of the current White Sox players it is clear that the White Sox are a world class organization in identifying elite talent.

If they thought Tatis and Seimen were elite talents, why did they give them away for Shields and a Jeff Samardzija rental ?
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With Tatis and Semien and all of the current White Sox players it is clear that the White Sox are a world class organization in identifying elite talent.

If they thought Tatis and Seimen were elite talents, why did they give them away for Shields and a Jeff Samardzija rental ?


Why did the Cubs think Eloy was worth Jose Quintana? They were in win now mode (so they thought) and didn't want to wait around for prospects. Gotta spend money to make money. Brock for Brogolio, etc.

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Brick wrote:
With Tatis and Semien and all of the current White Sox players it is clear that the White Sox are a world class organization in identifying elite talent.

If they thought Tatis and Seimen were elite talents, why did they give them away for Shields and a Jeff Samardzija rental ?


Why did the Cubs think Eloy was worth Jose Quintana? They were in win now mode (so they thought) and didn't want to wait around for prospects. Gotta spend money to make money. Brock for Brogolio, etc.

Eloy isn't an elite talent
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sjboyd0137 wrote:
Caller Bob wrote:
Brick wrote:
With Tatis and Semien and all of the current White Sox players it is clear that the White Sox are a world class organization in identifying elite talent.

If they thought Tatis and Seimen were elite talents, why did they give them away for Shields and a Jeff Samardzija rental ?


Why did the Cubs think Eloy was worth Jose Quintana? They were in win now mode (so they thought) and didn't want to wait around for prospects. Gotta spend money to make money. Brock for Brogolio, etc.

Eloy isn't an elite talent

:roll:

Tell yourself that when you weep into the pillow at night.

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Caller Bob wrote:
sjboyd0137 wrote:
Caller Bob wrote:
Brick wrote:
With Tatis and Semien and all of the current White Sox players it is clear that the White Sox are a world class organization in identifying elite talent.

If they thought Tatis and Seimen were elite talents, why did they give them away for Shields and a Jeff Samardzija rental ?


Why did the Cubs think Eloy was worth Jose Quintana? They were in win now mode (so they thought) and didn't want to wait around for prospects. Gotta spend money to make money. Brock for Brogolio, etc.

Eloy isn't an elite talent

:roll:

Tell yourself that when you weep into the pillow at night.


.752 OPS with barely passable defense. Won't be that hard. I'm more mad about giving up Cease.
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This guy turned down a contract and bet on himself, having a monster season. 40 doubles 43 Homer's and over 100 rbi..he's going to get a huge contract.

See that’s the kind of year you have when you’re chasing free agent dollars. Not Kris Bryant’s “ return to form I’m finally healthy “ of .266 25HR 70 RBI now pay me big bucks campaign

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Brick wrote:
With Tatis and Semien and all of the current White Sox players it is clear that the White Sox are a world class organization in identifying elite talent.

If they thought Tatis and Seimen were elite talents, why did they give them away for Shields and a Jeff Samardzija rental ?


Why did the Cubs think Eloy was worth Jose Quintana? They were in win now mode (so they thought) and didn't want to wait around for prospects. Gotta spend money to make money. Brock for Brogolio, etc.

The Quintana comp is valid, but the Sox were further away from true contention and picking up Shields and Samardjia (IMO) weren't anything that most would think pushed them into elite area. it was a stupid trade. it still hurts.

While the Quintana trade was stupid, the Cubs were closer, but definitely trending downward and most of us Sox fans scratched our heads and said...."COOL! You can have Quintana!"

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Brick wrote:
With Tatis and Semien and all of the current White Sox players it is clear that the White Sox are a world class organization in identifying elite talent.

If they thought Tatis and Seimen were elite talents, why did they give them away for Shields and a Jeff Samardzija rental ?

For the same reason that any team gives up young talent for people who are better at that exact day. They think they can win now. They were wrong.

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Brick wrote:
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Brick wrote:
With Tatis and Semien and all of the current White Sox players it is clear that the White Sox are a world class organization in identifying elite talent.

If they thought Tatis and Seimen were elite talents, why did they give them away for Shields and a Jeff Samardzija rental ?

For the same reason that any team gives up young talent for people who are better at that exact day. They think they can win now. They were wrong.

What exactly were the White Sox "close" to winning in 2014? 3rd place in the AL Central?
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Brick wrote:
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With Tatis and Semien and all of the current White Sox players it is clear that the White Sox are a world class organization in identifying elite talent.

If they thought Tatis and Seimen were elite talents, why did they give them away for Shields and a Jeff Samardzija rental ?

For the same reason that any team gives up young talent for people who are better at that exact day. They think they can win now. They were wrong.

What exactly were the White Sox "close" to winning in 2014? 3rd place in the AL Central?

I had never really thought that maybe the White Sox plan to contend in 2014 was misguided until this exact post.

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Trading Tatis Jr as a teenager was fine. He was a lottery ticket and that point, and the Padres hit it big. It happens.

Acquiring Sheilds was terrible.

An aside, the Padres were eliminated from playoff contention a few days ago :lol:

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With Tatis and Semien and all of the current White Sox players it is clear that the White Sox are a world class organization in identifying elite talent.

If they thought Tatis and Seimen were elite talents, why did they give them away for Shields and a Jeff Samardzija rental ?

For the same reason that any team gives up young talent for people who are better at that exact day. They think they can win now. They were wrong.

What exactly were the White Sox "close" to winning in 2014? 3rd place in the AL Central?


The reality of where they were didn't match management's delusions of grandeur.

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An aside, the Padres were eliminated from playoff contention a few days ago :lol:


There was something funny about them going out and acquiring an all star second baseman and suddenly going into a tailspin.

I thoroughly enjoyed Machado yelling at Tatis a couple of weeks ago. Had a 2004 Cubs vibe to it.

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An aside, the Padres were eliminated from playoff contention a few days ago :lol:


There was something funny about them going out and acquiring an all star second baseman and suddenly going into a tailspin.

I thoroughly enjoyed Machado yelling at Tatis a couple of weeks ago. Had a 2004 Cubs vibe to it.

Did anything ever come out about what they were mad about?

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An aside, the Padres were eliminated from playoff contention a few days ago :lol:


There was something funny about them going out and acquiring an all star second baseman and suddenly going into a tailspin.

I thoroughly enjoyed Machado yelling at Tatis a couple of weeks ago. Had a 2004 Cubs vibe to it.

Did anything ever come out about what they were mad about?


I read something that made it sound like Machado was pissed at Tatis free swinging at everything to try and make individual stats and it was hurting the team. But Machado is the ultimate team player, right? :lol:

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With Tatis and Semien and all of the current White Sox players it is clear that the White Sox are a world class organization in identifying elite talent.

If they thought Tatis and Seimen were elite talents, why did they give them away for Shields and a Jeff Samardzija rental ?


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He's going to be 32. I don't think he will get some monster contract. Maybe 3 years and $75 million.

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