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Author:  Terry's Peeps [ Wed Oct 06, 2021 2:59 pm ]
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Jayce Tingler out in San Diego.

Author:  sjboyd0137 [ Wed Oct 06, 2021 3:01 pm ]
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Terry's Peeps wrote:
Jayce Tingler out in San Diego.


Of the closet?

Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Wed Oct 06, 2021 3:10 pm ]
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:lol: Fuck the Padres.

Luis Rojas out as Mets manager

Author:  McCareins_Fan [ Wed Oct 06, 2021 11:41 pm ]
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sjboyd0137 wrote:
Terry's Peeps wrote:
Jayce Tingler out in San Diego.


Of the closet?


most white dudes have gay names. like caller bob. or elmhurst steve.

Author:  Hawg Ass [ Tue Oct 26, 2021 12:24 pm ]
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Sounds like the Mets are going after Brewers GM Matt Arnold to be their next President of Baseball. Can't get Stearns, I guess you go after his next in charge.

Author:  Zippy-The-Pinhead [ Tue Oct 26, 2021 2:13 pm ]
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Ozzie interviewing with the Padres. Wow...that could be fun.

Author:  Hussra [ Tue Oct 26, 2021 2:50 pm ]
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wait til he pisses off the other half of the continent by expressing admiration for El Chapo

Author:  RFDC [ Tue Oct 26, 2021 2:57 pm ]
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Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
Ozzie interviewing with the Padres. Wow...that could be fun.

yes, by all means lets make that happen!

Author:  RFDC [ Tue Oct 26, 2021 4:41 pm ]
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so the Padres have interviewed Schildt and Ozzie. Talk about opposite ends of the spectrum :lol:

Author:  Terry's Peeps [ Tue Oct 26, 2021 6:46 pm ]
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RFDC wrote:
Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
Ozzie interviewing with the Padres. Wow...that could be fun.

yes, by all means lets make that happen!


Yes please.

Author:  Hawg Ass [ Wed Oct 27, 2021 10:43 am ]
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Hawg Ass wrote:
Sounds like the Mets are going after Brewers GM Matt Arnold to be their next President of Baseball. Can't get Stearns, I guess you go after his next in charge.

So Matt Arnold withdrew his name, that seems really weird. It makes you wonder what is really going on with that Mets organization, what a shit show.

Author:  badrogue17 [ Wed Nov 03, 2021 4:58 pm ]
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Buster Posey retiring .

Author:  312player [ Wed Nov 03, 2021 5:02 pm ]
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Thought Posey had 2 or 3 good years left, good for him. Best catcher in the last 20 years.. hall of fame

Author:  Jaw Breaker [ Wed Nov 03, 2021 6:03 pm ]
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Yeah, he's probably leaving $30+ million on the table. He batted .304/.390/.499 this year and is only 34 years old. Couldn't he have moved to 1B if his body couldn't take the catching anymore?

Author:  Hawg Ass [ Thu Nov 04, 2021 7:38 am ]
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Castellanos opts out and JBJ (can't be worse) accepts the player option with the Brewers.

Author:  Nardi [ Thu Nov 04, 2021 11:55 am ]
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Jaw Breaker wrote:
Yeah, he's probably leaving $30+ million on the table. He batted .304/.390/.499 this year and is only 34 years old. Couldn't he have moved to 1B if his body couldn't take the catching anymore?

Thing about a lot of catchers is they get bored when they move.

Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Thu Nov 04, 2021 12:02 pm ]
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:lol: Houston.


Author:  denisdman [ Thu Nov 04, 2021 12:32 pm ]
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So what are the predictions on the labor agreement, which expires 12/1?

Author:  Terry's Peeps [ Thu Nov 04, 2021 5:24 pm ]
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denisdman wrote:
So what are the predictions on the labor agreement, which expires 12/1?


Universal DH, roster expansion, and revenue sharing will be the big things in the new CBA. Hopefully they have one in place by February.

Author:  Nardi [ Thu Nov 04, 2021 5:27 pm ]
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Terry's Peeps wrote:
denisdman wrote:
So what are the predictions on the labor agreement, which expires 12/1?


Universal DH, roster expansion, and revenue sharing will be the big things in the new CBA. Hopefully they have one in place by February.

Service time will obviously be reduced or there will be a strike.

Author:  Chet Coppock's Fur Coat [ Thu Nov 04, 2021 5:56 pm ]
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denisdman wrote:
So what are the predictions on the labor agreement, which expires 12/1?

Long lockout. They will eventually get a ten-year CBA but with a mutated spring training and a 99 game season.

Financial changes:
- salary floor rolled in over five years, luxury tax stays the same but with minimum 5% annual inflation
- ending local TV/streaming blackouts by 2028 or requiring more revenue sharing from teams who don't renegotiate
- getting rid of the third year of arbitration for all players not yet on a 40 man, and after the 2023 season for everyone else.

Structural changes:
- universal DH
- a framework to go to 32 teams and Eastern/Western conferences by 2028, under the cover of reducing player travel, but really to goose TV deals in both regular season and playoffs and let Oakland and Tampa move without geographic issues.
- a cut of 8 games in the regular season when they go to 32 teams, to be replaced with playoff games
- increase from 40 to 43 man roster, but the extra three slots are reserved for under-23 players with less than a year of service time
- ending the endless AAA shuttle for pitchers somehow

Author:  Jaw Breaker [ Thu Nov 04, 2021 6:09 pm ]
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It seemed that the universal DH was something that the union wanted, as the salaries would be higher for the position. But now I think the owners want it just as much to prevent injuries to their expensive pitchers. Philosophical question: should NL pitchers take a small pay cut if they no longer have to bat?

Author:  denisdman [ Thu Nov 04, 2021 6:53 pm ]
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Service time and the competitive balance tax seem to be the main issues.

Author:  good dolphin [ Fri Nov 05, 2021 8:14 am ]
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I doubt they will have an agreement by the scheduled date for pitchers and catchers to report.

Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Fri Nov 05, 2021 10:05 am ]
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Terry's Peeps wrote:
denisdman wrote:
So what are the predictions on the labor agreement, which expires 12/1?


Universal DH, roster expansion, and revenue sharing will be the big things in the new CBA. Hopefully they have one in place by February.
This should be the easiest one to hammer out.

30 man roster with only 25 active on game day. So your previous and next day's starting pitcher and a 3rd catcher are likely inactive among two others. This also allows for somebody who is banged up with a minor injury to sit for a few days. Thus you can go back to a 15-Day IL except for concussion protocol.

Author:  Zippy-The-Pinhead [ Fri Nov 05, 2021 11:10 am ]
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Jaw Breaker wrote:
It seemed that the universal DH was something that the union wanted, as the salaries would be higher for the position. But now I think the owners want it just as much to prevent injuries to their expensive pitchers. Philosophical question: should NL pitchers take a small pay cut if they no longer have to bat?

I don't see how not batting would affect their pay. It will be their higher ERA that hurts them.

Author:  Jaw Breaker [ Fri Nov 05, 2021 1:30 pm ]
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Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
Jaw Breaker wrote:
It seemed that the universal DH was something that the union wanted, as the salaries would be higher for the position. But now I think the owners want it just as much to prevent injuries to their expensive pitchers. Philosophical question: should NL pitchers take a small pay cut if they no longer have to bat?

I don't see how not batting would affect their pay. It will be their higher ERA that hurts them.


I know, and it seemed like an absurd question to ask, but I'm sure almost all pitchers are happy not to bat, so in theory they should give up something in exchange for not having to hit. I guess it would be like if wide receivers had to return punts, but then they created a dedicated roster spot for a returner, so the WR only had to play on offense. His value as WR didn't change, but he would be doing less work.

Author:  Terry's Peeps [ Tue Nov 16, 2021 10:44 am ]
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Jose Barrios signs 7 year extension with Blue Jays for $132 million.

Noah Syndergaard to the Angels for a 1 year $21 million deal.

Author:  RFDC [ Tue Nov 16, 2021 11:34 am ]
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Lotta money for a guy who has not proved he can stay healthy.

Author:  Jaw Breaker [ Wed Nov 17, 2021 6:08 pm ]
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Verlander with a 1-yr $25m deal to stay with Astros.

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