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Barry Bonds is the best player of our time and I put him arguably there right next to Ruth.

10. Stan Musial
9. Walter Johnson
8. Barry Bonds
7. Mickey Mantle
6. Lou Gehrig
5. Ted Williams
4. Ty Cobb
3. Hank Aaron
2. Willie Mays
1. Babe Ruth

It's a damn shame that they can't end a lockout and the biggest news of the game is yet another list.

i dont understand how Babe Ruth is still considered the best player of all time.

Pedro is NOT higher than Greg Maddux and you can put Pedro and Clemens well behind Tom Seaver and Randy Johnson while you're at it.

BigW72 wrote:

Pedro is NOT higher than Greg Maddux and you can put Pedro and Clemens well behind Tom Seaver and Randy Johnson while you're at it.

At their peak, one game to win- give me Pedro over Maddux. But looking at their overall career, Maddux over Pedro.

100. Barry Larkin
99. Phil Niekro
98. Jim Thome
97. Adrian Beltre
96. Charlie Gehringer
95. Duke Snider
94. Bryce Harper
93. John Smoltz
92. Roy Halladay
91. Ryne Sandberg
90. Ivan Rodriguez
89. Shoeless Joe Jackson
88. Willie Stargell
87. Carlton Fisk
86. Roberto Alomar
85. Jim Palmer
84. Paul Molitor
83. Roy Campanella
82. Eddie Collins
81. Mike Piazza
80. Robin Yount
79. Hank Greenberg
78. Chipper Jones
77. Vladimir Guerrero
76. Cap Anson
75. Rod Carew
74. Juan Marichal
73. Willie McCovey
72. Justin Verlander
71. Al Kaline
70. Harmon Killebrew
69. Ozzie Smith
68. Manny Ramirez
67. Brooks Robinson
66. Cal Ripken Jr.
65. Max Scherzer
64. Eddie Mathews
63. David Ortiz
62. Mel Ott
61. Carl Yastrzemski
60. Whitey Ford
59. Miguel Cabrera
58. Steve Carlton
57. Pete Alexander
56. Dave Winfield
55. Reggie Jackson
54. Lefty Grove
53. Oscar Charleston
52. Clayton Kershaw
51. Ernie Banks
50. Bob Feller
49. Frank Thomas
48. Nap Lajoie
47. Warren Spahn
46. Ichiro Suzuki
45. Wade Boggs
44. Tony Gwynn
43. George Brett
42. Nolan Ryan
41. Satchel Paige
40. Jimmie Foxx
39. Yogi Berra
38. Jackie Robinson
37. Joe Morgan
36. Tris Speaker
35. Josh Gibson
34. Pete Rose
33. Bob Gibson
32. Sandy Koufax
31. Mariano Rivera
30. Albert Pujols
29. Johnny Bench
28. Derek Jeter
27. Roberto Clemente
26. Alex Rodriguez
25. Christy Mathewson
24. Randy Johnson
23. Rickey Henderson
22. Tom Seaver
21. Cy Young
20. Rogers Hornsby
19. Frank Robinson
18. Mike Schmidt
17. Roger Clemens
16. Joe DiMaggio
15. Mike Trout
14. Greg Maddux
13. Ken Griffey Jr.
12. Honus Wagner
11. Pedro Martinez
10. Stan Musial
9. Walter Johnson
8. Barry Bonds
7. Mickey Mantle
6. Lou Gehrig
5. Ted Williams
4. Ty Cobb
3. Hank Aaron
2. Willie Mays
1. Babe Ruth

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/331 ... nos-100-51

Sosa isn't on the list. That's nuts.

good dolphin wrote:

Barry Bonds is the best player of our time and I put him arguably there right next to Ruth.

Was about to post the same thing. The only argument against bonds at #1 is steroids but that’d invite a discussion of all the competitive issues with every other era.

DAC wrote:

BigW72 wrote:

Pedro is NOT higher than Greg Maddux and you can put Pedro and Clemens well behind Tom Seaver and Randy Johnson while you're at it.

At their peak, one game to win- give me Pedro over Maddux. But looking at their overall career, Maddux over Pedro.

This is the reason why I always think Hank Aaron is ranked too high on these list. Peak Hank Aaron isn't a top 5 player. Peak Pedro was a top 5 pitcher

i dont understand how Babe Ruth is still considered the best player of all time.

BigW72 wrote:

Pedro is NOT higher than Greg Maddux and you can put Pedro and Clemens well behind Tom Seaver and Randy Johnson while you're at it.

At their peak, one game to win- give me Pedro over Maddux. But looking at their overall career, Maddux over Pedro.

Author:	Hussra [ Fri Feb 04, 2022 11:14 am ]
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100. Barry Larkin 99. Phil Niekro 98. Jim Thome 97. Adrian Beltre 96. Charlie Gehringer 95. Duke Snider 94. Bryce Harper 93. John Smoltz 92. Roy Halladay 91. Ryne Sandberg 90. Ivan Rodriguez 89. Shoeless Joe Jackson 88. Willie Stargell 87. Carlton Fisk 86. Roberto Alomar 85. Jim Palmer 84. Paul Molitor 83. Roy Campanella 82. Eddie Collins 81. Mike Piazza 80. Robin Yount 79. Hank Greenberg 78. Chipper Jones 77. Vladimir Guerrero 76. Cap Anson 75. Rod Carew 74. Juan Marichal 73. Willie McCovey 72. Justin Verlander 71. Al Kaline 70. Harmon Killebrew 69. Ozzie Smith 68. Manny Ramirez 67. Brooks Robinson 66. Cal Ripken Jr. 65. Max Scherzer 64. Eddie Mathews 63. David Ortiz 62. Mel Ott 61. Carl Yastrzemski 60. Whitey Ford 59. Miguel Cabrera 58. Steve Carlton 57. Pete Alexander 56. Dave Winfield 55. Reggie Jackson 54. Lefty Grove 53. Oscar Charleston 52. Clayton Kershaw 51. Ernie Banks 50. Bob Feller 49. Frank Thomas 48. Nap Lajoie 47. Warren Spahn 46. Ichiro Suzuki 45. Wade Boggs 44. Tony Gwynn 43. George Brett 42. Nolan Ryan 41. Satchel Paige 40. Jimmie Foxx 39. Yogi Berra 38. Jackie Robinson 37. Joe Morgan 36. Tris Speaker 35. Josh Gibson 34. Pete Rose 33. Bob Gibson 32. Sandy Koufax 31. Mariano Rivera 30. Albert Pujols 29. Johnny Bench 28. Derek Jeter 27. Roberto Clemente 26. Alex Rodriguez 25. Christy Mathewson 24. Randy Johnson 23. Rickey Henderson 22. Tom Seaver 21. Cy Young 20. Rogers Hornsby 19. Frank Robinson 18. Mike Schmidt 17. Roger Clemens 16. Joe DiMaggio 15. Mike Trout 14. Greg Maddux 13. Ken Griffey Jr. 12. Honus Wagner 11. Pedro Martinez 10. Stan Musial 9. Walter Johnson 8. Barry Bonds 7. Mickey Mantle 6. Lou Gehrig 5. Ted Williams 4. Ty Cobb 3. Hank Aaron 2. Willie Mays 1. Babe Ruth https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/331 ... nos-100-51

Author:	Terry's Peeps [ Fri Feb 04, 2022 11:23 am ]
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Surprised they didn't put Ohtani at #1

Author:	RFDC [ Fri Feb 04, 2022 11:25 am ]
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Pedro at #11? No.

Author:	Jaw Breaker [ Fri Feb 04, 2022 11:27 am ]
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Interesting how Dave Winfield and Reggie Jackson are right next to each other. I remember this famous quote from Steinbrenner: "I let Mr. October get away, and I got Mr. May, Dave Winfield. He gets his numbers when it doesn't count."

Author:	Jaw Breaker [ Fri Feb 04, 2022 11:31 am ]
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RFDC wrote: Pedro at #11? No. Yeah, he shouldn't be that much higher than Scherzer.

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Author:	RFDC [ Fri Feb 04, 2022 11:32 am ]
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Rickey Henderson is too low as well.

Author:	Frank Coztansa [ Fri Feb 04, 2022 11:36 am ]
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Jeter at 28. What farce. Great player don't get me wrong, but on no planet can you say that Jeter was better than Frank Thomas, Tris Speaker, Ichiro, Bob Feller. I'm not sure he was better than Ryne or Cal Jr.

Author:	denisdman [ Fri Feb 04, 2022 11:56 am ]
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So many old timers on that list I wish I could have seen play.

Author:	Hussra [ Fri Feb 04, 2022 12:16 pm ]
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RFDC wrote: Pedro at #11? No. considering he's only 17th among pitchers for JORR's preferred metric WAR and the ESPN list combines position players and pitchers, Pedro's 11th while Bob Gibson down at 33 when they had nearly identical WAR (Pedro pitched 18 seasons to Gibson's 17): Top 100 pitchers by WAR all time Top 100 position players by WAR

Author:	Nas [ Fri Feb 04, 2022 12:34 pm ]
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Trout at 15 seems too high for a guy who most people couldn't pick out of a lineup.

Author:	good dolphin [ Fri Feb 04, 2022 12:55 pm ]
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Barry Bonds is the best player of our time and I put him arguably there right next to Ruth.

Author:	This Ends in Antioch [ Fri Feb 04, 2022 12:58 pm ]
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good dolphin wrote: Barry Bonds is the best player of our time and I put him arguably there right next to Ruth. Was about to post the same thing. The only argument against bonds at #1 is steroids but that’d invite a discussion of all the competitive issues with every other era.

Author:	BigW72 [ Fri Feb 04, 2022 1:23 pm ]
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First of all, it's ridiculous to have pitchers and position players in the same list. Barry Bonds should be 2nd on the list. Albert Pujols at 30 is too generous. Pedro is NOT higher than Greg Maddux and you can put Pedro and Clemens well behind Tom Seaver and Randy Johnson while you're at it. This list sucks.

Author:	Frank Coztansa [ Fri Feb 04, 2022 1:37 pm ]
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BigW72 wrote: This list sucks. There is a lot to pick apart for sure. I'll say this though. Its hard not to argue with the players in the top ten. Maybe they could be ranked differently, but I would be hard pressed to replace any of these guys in the top ten; Quote: 10. Stan Musial 9. Walter Johnson 8. Barry Bonds 7. Mickey Mantle 6. Lou Gehrig 5. Ted Williams 4. Ty Cobb 3. Hank Aaron 2. Willie Mays 1. Babe Ruth

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Author:	Regular Reader [ Fri Feb 04, 2022 3:27 pm ]
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It's a damn shame that they can't end a lockout and the biggest news of the game is yet another list.

Author:	SuperNintendoHjalmarsson [ Fri Feb 04, 2022 5:52 pm ]
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i dont understand how Babe Ruth is still considered the best player of all time.

Author:	Jaw Breaker [ Fri Feb 04, 2022 5:56 pm ]
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SuperNintendoHjalmarsson wrote: i dont understand how Babe Ruth is still considered the best player of all time. https://www.baseball-reference.com/play ... ba01.shtml Bold items indicate best in MLB...

Author:	Frank Coztansa [ Fri Feb 04, 2022 8:23 pm ]
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SuperNintendoHjalmarsson wrote: i dont understand how Babe Ruth is still considered the best player of all time. Because he is a 20.4 WAR player. As a pitcher.

Author:	Nas [ Fri Feb 04, 2022 8:39 pm ]
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SuperNintendoHjalmarsson wrote: i dont understand how Babe Ruth is still considered the best player of all time. Because he accomplished things that no one will come close to accomplishing. Everyone else is playing for that 2nd spot behind him.

Author:	Terry's Peeps [ Fri Feb 04, 2022 8:48 pm ]
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Sosa isn't on the list. That's nuts.

Author:	DAC [ Sat Feb 05, 2022 9:58 am ]
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BigW72 wrote: Pedro is NOT higher than Greg Maddux and you can put Pedro and Clemens well behind Tom Seaver and Randy Johnson while you're at it. At their peak, one game to win- give me Pedro over Maddux. But looking at their overall career, Maddux over Pedro.

Author:	Nas [ Sat Feb 05, 2022 10:39 am ]
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DAC wrote: BigW72 wrote: Pedro is NOT higher than Greg Maddux and you can put Pedro and Clemens well behind Tom Seaver and Randy Johnson while you're at it. At their peak, one game to win- give me Pedro over Maddux. But looking at their overall career, Maddux over Pedro. This is the reason why I always think Hank Aaron is ranked too high on these list. Peak Hank Aaron isn't a top 5 player. Peak Pedro was a top 5 pitcher

Author:	sinicalypse [ Sun Feb 06, 2022 8:31 am ]
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vlad 77? 77? he's gotta be better than wade boggs (~45) because boggs is just a .330 career average and vlad is .318 with all kinds of power and danger that boggs never had. you can argue that vlad was generally shit in the playoffs but what kind of a dent did wade fucking boggs make in the playoffs? maybe when he was a devil ray? jeter #26 vlad #77? #comeonson. this is a popularity contest. Hussra wrote: 100. Barry Larkin 99. Phil Niekro 98. Jim Thome 97. Adrian Beltre 96. Charlie Gehringer 95. Duke Snider 94. Bryce Harper 93. John Smoltz 92. Roy Halladay 91. Ryne Sandberg 90. Ivan Rodriguez 89. Shoeless Joe Jackson 88. Willie Stargell 87. Carlton Fisk 86. Roberto Alomar 85. Jim Palmer 84. Paul Molitor 83. Roy Campanella 82. Eddie Collins 81. Mike Piazza 80. Robin Yount 79. Hank Greenberg 78. Chipper Jones 77. Vladimir Guerrero 76. Cap Anson 75. Rod Carew 74. Juan Marichal 73. Willie McCovey 72. Justin Verlander 71. Al Kaline 70. Harmon Killebrew 69. Ozzie Smith 68. Manny Ramirez 67. Brooks Robinson 66. Cal Ripken Jr. 65. Max Scherzer 64. Eddie Mathews 63. David Ortiz 62. Mel Ott 61. Carl Yastrzemski 60. Whitey Ford 59. Miguel Cabrera 58. Steve Carlton 57. Pete Alexander 56. Dave Winfield 55. Reggie Jackson 54. Lefty Grove 53. Oscar Charleston 52. Clayton Kershaw 51. Ernie Banks 50. Bob Feller 49. Frank Thomas 48. Nap Lajoie 47. Warren Spahn 46. Ichiro Suzuki 45. Wade Boggs 44. Tony Gwynn 43. George Brett 42. Nolan Ryan 41. Satchel Paige 40. Jimmie Foxx 39. Yogi Berra 38. Jackie Robinson 37. Joe Morgan 36. Tris Speaker 35. Josh Gibson 34. Pete Rose 33. Bob Gibson 32. Sandy Koufax 31. Mariano Rivera 30. Albert Pujols 29. Johnny Bench 28. Derek Jeter 27. Roberto Clemente 26. Alex Rodriguez 25. Christy Mathewson 24. Randy Johnson 23. Rickey Henderson 22. Tom Seaver 21. Cy Young 20. Rogers Hornsby 19. Frank Robinson 18. Mike Schmidt 17. Roger Clemens 16. Joe DiMaggio 15. Mike Trout 14. Greg Maddux 13. Ken Griffey Jr. 12. Honus Wagner 11. Pedro Martinez 10. Stan Musial 9. Walter Johnson 8. Barry Bonds 7. Mickey Mantle 6. Lou Gehrig 5. Ted Williams 4. Ty Cobb 3. Hank Aaron 2. Willie Mays 1. Babe Ruth https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/331 ... nos-100-51

Author:	sinicalypse [ Sun Feb 06, 2022 8:34 am ]
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Terry's Peeps wrote: Sosa isn't on the list. That's nuts. don't forget he was caught cheating...

Author:	sinicalypse [ Sun Feb 06, 2022 8:37 am ]
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This Ends in Antioch wrote: good dolphin wrote: Barry Bonds is the best player of our time and I put him arguably there right next to Ruth. Was about to post the same thing. The only argument against bonds at #1 is steroids but that’d invite a discussion of all the competitive issues with every other era. there should be a steroids hall of fame with a big statue of barry bonds at the entrance. these guys risked their future to entertain us with crazy #s.... that's worthy of a hall of fame.

Author:	Regular Reader [ Sun Feb 06, 2022 5:09 pm ]
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Nas wrote: DAC wrote: BigW72 wrote: Pedro is NOT higher than Greg Maddux and you can put Pedro and Clemens well behind Tom Seaver and Randy Johnson while you're at it. At their peak, one game to win- give me Pedro over Maddux. But looking at their overall career, Maddux over Pedro. This is the reason why I always think Hank Aaron is ranked too high on these list. Peak Hank Aaron isn't a top 5 player. Peak Pedro was a top 5 pitcher This is just wrong. Hank was a great five tool player. And wildly underappreciated because he wasn't a self promoter playing in the Jim Crow South.

Author:	FrankDrebin [ Sun Feb 06, 2022 6:19 pm ]
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SuperNintendoHjalmarsson wrote: i dont understand how Babe Ruth is still considered the best player of all time. Great as a pitcher, great hitter, changed the way baseball was played after the Black Sox scandal. Most well-known athlete before Ali.

Author:	FrankDrebin [ Sun Feb 06, 2022 6:26 pm ]
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Di Maggio in at #10 over Musial. Also, the name of this list should be changed from Top MLB to Top Baseball players since Josh Gibson and Oscar Charleston never played in the MLB.

Author:	BigW72 [ Mon Feb 07, 2022 11:13 am ]
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DAC wrote: BigW72 wrote: Pedro is NOT higher than Greg Maddux and you can put Pedro and Clemens well behind Tom Seaver and Randy Johnson while you're at it. At their peak, one game to win- give me Pedro over Maddux. But looking at their overall career, Maddux over Pedro. Career / Body of work matters. Pedro was all that for a limited number of seasons, but I think this list pertains to career numbers.