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| Author: | Caller Bob [ Thu Aug 24, 2023 6:08 am ] |
| Post subject: | Ohtani has a torn UCL |
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| Author: | Warren Newson [ Thu Aug 24, 2023 6:47 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ohtani has a torn UCL |
That's absolutely awful timing for him. That two way player thing was fun while it lasted, but we probably just saw the end of it. |
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| Author: | Darkside [ Thu Aug 24, 2023 6:51 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ohtani has a torn UCL |
Bye bye 500 million. |
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| Author: | Nas [ Thu Aug 24, 2023 6:56 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ohtani has a torn UCL |
I would still pay him |
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| Author: | badrogue17 [ Thu Aug 24, 2023 6:59 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ohtani has a torn UCL |
Darkside wrote: Bye bye 500 million. hopefully he’ll be able to scrape by on the 200 million he’ll get |
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| Author: | Nas [ Thu Aug 24, 2023 7:00 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ohtani has a torn UCL |
badrogue17 wrote: Darkside wrote: Bye bye 500 million. hopefully he’ll be able to scrape by on the 200 million he’ll get His bat alone is worth $300M. |
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| Author: | Nas [ Thu Aug 24, 2023 7:02 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ohtani has a torn UCL |
Keep in mind Purdy recovered without Tommy John. |
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| Author: | Chet Coppock's Fur Coat [ Thu Aug 24, 2023 7:10 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ohtani has a torn UCL |
Darkside wrote: Bye bye 500 million. He may still get a $500M total offer but it's going to have to have a lot of performance bonuses structured for being able to both pitch and hit. |
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| Author: | IkeSouth [ Thu Aug 24, 2023 7:12 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ohtani has a torn UCL |
you cant do roids forever and keep fucking like youre 28 years old |
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| Author: | Nas [ Thu Aug 24, 2023 7:13 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ohtani has a torn UCL |
IkeSouth wrote: you cant do roids forever and keep fucking like youre 28 years old He's 29 |
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| Author: | Hussra [ Thu Aug 24, 2023 7:41 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ohtani has a torn UCL |
who is running the Angels? How did they not at least get some good not great prospects/future trade fodder. You weren't going to get a Miguel Cabrera to the Tigers haul nowadays, unless they traded him to whatever team Dave Dombrowski's in charge of emptying out the farm system for. But still...now you miss the playoffs and you got fuck-all for the greatest player in the latest decade+...tho I guess teams still get a tiered comp pick when a guy goes free agent and signs elsewhere. So maybe getting the top tier comp pick is better than whatever offers they got for a 2 or 3 month Ohtani rental. |
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| Author: | Hussra [ Thu Aug 24, 2023 7:43 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ohtani has a torn UCL |
Nas wrote: Keep in mind Purdy recovered without Tommy John. Brock Purdy = poor man's Toosoon Bagent. |
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| Author: | Nas [ Thu Aug 24, 2023 7:46 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ohtani has a torn UCL |
Hussra wrote: Nas wrote: Keep in mind Purdy recovered without Tommy John. Brock Purdy = poor man's Toosoon Bagent. Bagent wishes. Purdy is going to be a stud. |
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| Author: | IkeSouth [ Thu Aug 24, 2023 7:58 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ohtani has a torn UCL |
Nas wrote: IkeSouth wrote: you cant do roids forever and keep fucking like youre 28 years old He's 29 thats my effing point |
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| Author: | Caller Bob [ Thu Aug 24, 2023 8:04 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ohtani has a torn UCL |
He's going to have to be a full time position player or pitcher. Pick one. |
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| Author: | IkeSouth [ Thu Aug 24, 2023 8:06 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ohtani has a torn UCL |
yea its like when i bulk up my muscles, i can't run long distance. but if i keep running and get my stamina back, i get skinny again. sexy skinny, but still.... |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Thu Aug 24, 2023 11:21 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ohtani has a torn UCL |
Hussra wrote: who is running the Angels? People who are undoubtedly worse than Rick Hahn and Kenny Williams which is saying something. Angels have only had 2 winning seasons with Trout, only one playoff appearance in which they were swept, and Ohtani and never appeared in the playoffs.
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| Author: | Jaw Breaker [ Sat Sep 16, 2023 1:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ohtani has a torn UCL |
Now out for the year with an oblique. He's not getting $50m per year. |
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| Author: | Caller Bob [ Sat Sep 16, 2023 1:10 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ohtani has a torn UCL |
Jaw Breaker wrote: Now out for the year with an oblique. He's not getting $50m per year. He'll get close |
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| Author: | Cashman [ Sat Sep 16, 2023 2:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ohtani has a torn UCL |
Just not worth it, if the goal is to win the WS. |
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| Author: | KDdidit [ Sat Sep 16, 2023 2:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ohtani has a torn UCL |
Surprised he didn’t just shut down after the UCL, why risk costing yourself more money. |
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| Author: | Hussra [ Sat Sep 16, 2023 2:35 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ohtani has a torn UCL |
Headed to Boston to pitch for the Red Sox, play goalie for the Bruins, shooting guard for the Celtics and catch passes from Mac Jones while being the HC of the WNBA Sun. |
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| Author: | denisdman [ Sat Sep 16, 2023 5:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ohtani has a torn UCL |
KDdidit wrote: Surprised he didn’t just shut down after the UCL, why risk costing yourself more money. I’d have to assume he got advice that hitting will not cause more damage and thus he is aboe to show he can still hit even with this injury. He is worth a lot for his hitting alone. But if GM’s question his availability to even hit, then the price and contract length go way down. |
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| Author: | Hussra [ Sat Sep 16, 2023 5:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ohtani has a torn UCL |
best move might be to pull an Adrian Belew? Beltre--who I believe Belewtre had Boras as an agent at the time--and sign a prove-it 1 year deal. Beltre's bet on himself paid off and after the 1 year deal with Boston he got a 6 year deal with the Rangers. |
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| Author: | IkeSouth [ Sat Sep 16, 2023 8:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ohtani has a torn UCL |
Warren Newson wrote: That's absolutely awful timing for him. That two way player thing was fun while it lasted, but we probably just saw the end of it. Injuries lead to injuries. He was the hottest player in history and now I could probably fuck him. Wow. |
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| Author: | MongoMuller [ Mon Sep 18, 2023 8:15 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ohtani has a torn UCL |
Hitting doesn't cause further damage and I think its something like 6 weeks after TJS they can start swinging a bat again. I guess its about 150 days they can start taking dry swings then 180 days they can hit off a tee. |
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| Author: | casual fan [ Tue Sep 19, 2023 4:58 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ohtani has a torn UCL |
https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2023/09/ ... rgery.html Hitting opening day 2024. Pitching 2025 |
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| Author: | Warren Newson [ Tue Sep 19, 2023 5:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ohtani has a torn UCL |
The question is whether his future team will acquire him with any expectation that he'll pitch? 2024 will essentially be the third year (2019 and almost all of 2020) he will not be available for pitching. I suspect the answer will depend on what they end up paying him. If he's getting $50 million a year, I think you have to try pitching him one last time. |
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| Author: | Jaw Breaker [ Tue Sep 19, 2023 8:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ohtani has a torn UCL |
Warren Newson wrote: The question is whether his future team will acquire him with any expectation that he'll pitch? 2024 will essentially be the third year (2019 and almost all of 2020) he will not be available for pitching. I suspect the answer will depend on what they end up paying him. If he's getting $50 million a year, I think you have to try pitching him one last time. Yeah, I don’t know how teams can structure a contract without knowing if he’ll pitch. |
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| Author: | Douchebag [ Tue Sep 19, 2023 9:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ohtani has a torn UCL |
Jaw Breaker wrote: Warren Newson wrote: The question is whether his future team will acquire him with any expectation that he'll pitch? 2024 will essentially be the third year (2019 and almost all of 2020) he will not be available for pitching. I suspect the answer will depend on what they end up paying him. If he's getting $50 million a year, I think you have to try pitching him one last time. Yeah, I don’t know how teams can structure a contract without knowing if he’ll pitch. You could probably load up a contract with incentives if he hits certain thresholds regarding pitching. |
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