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While the Tigers may have a deal about wrapped up, the White Sox also made a strong push to acquire Miguel Cabrera this afternoon, offering Josh Fields, Gio Gonzalez and either John Danks or Gavin Floyd.

Joe Capozzi of the Palm Beach Post thinks that deal is going to happen, while MLB.com is reporting that Cabrera is likely Detroit bound. It's hard to trust a report that rather equates Danks with Floyd. Danks would be the most valuable property the White Sox have to offer, while Floyd just doesn't have a lot of trade value left.

It looks like Kenny gave it his best shot. Fields is a no brainer but Gonzalez and Danks? Hard to believe Florida didn't jump at that offer.

Just heard that Maybin and 5 other prospects to Marlins for Willis and Cabera to the Tigers. That line up is going to produce some runs if i'm not mistaken

Granderson
Polanco
Guillen
Maggs
Cabrera
Sheff
Pudge
Inge
Jones-Thaymes
Renturia

And a rotation of...
Verlander
Bondo
Willis
Rogers
Robertson

The Sox might as well take the next 5 years off. They have no chance to do anything in that division.

Tigers reportedly have given Cabera a 8 yr. 153.8 million extension.

As a sox fan, I would have loved to see him come to the south side, but after seeing this deal, I see the reality that they would have never been able to re-sign him.

I think he'll be alright. Just having a real bad year. I don't think roids help one find the strike zone.

Last year was bad also.

Is he injured or was he taking something no one knew about. The guy went from being one of the best young pitchers in the game to being a bum in 1 year.

Author:	schmitty1121 [ Tue Dec 04, 2007 6:30 pm ]
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ESPN reporting Cabera and Willis are both being traded to the Tigers for 6 prospects.

Author:	Keyser Soze [ Tue Dec 04, 2007 7:08 pm ]
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While the Tigers may have a deal about wrapped up, the White Sox also made a strong push to acquire Miguel Cabrera this afternoon, offering Josh Fields, Gio Gonzalez and either John Danks or Gavin Floyd. Joe Capozzi of the Palm Beach Post thinks that deal is going to happen, while MLB.com is reporting that Cabrera is likely Detroit bound. It's hard to trust a report that rather equates Danks with Floyd. Danks would be the most valuable property the White Sox have to offer, while Floyd just doesn't have a lot of trade value left. It looks like Kenny gave it his best shot. Fields is a no brainer but Gonzalez and Danks? Hard to believe Florida didn't jump at that offer.

Author:	BD [ Tue Dec 04, 2007 7:16 pm ]
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Keyser Soze wrote: While the Tigers may have a deal about wrapped up, the White Sox also made a strong push to acquire Miguel Cabrera this afternoon, offering Josh Fields, Gio Gonzalez and either John Danks or Gavin Floyd. Joe Capozzi of the Palm Beach Post thinks that deal is going to happen, while MLB.com is reporting that Cabrera is likely Detroit bound. It's hard to trust a report that rather equates Danks with Floyd. Danks would be the most valuable property the White Sox have to offer, while Floyd just doesn't have a lot of trade value left. It looks like Kenny gave it his best shot. Fields is a no brainer but Gonzalez and Danks? Hard to believe Florida didn't jump at that offer. I think we have good prospects (the few that we have), and most teams have better ones, it looks like, including Detroit.

Author:	buryman [ Tue Dec 04, 2007 7:16 pm ]
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Just heard that Maybin and 5 other prospects to Marlins for Willis and Cabera to the Tigers. That line up is going to produce some runs if i'm not mistaken Granderson Polanco Guillen Maggs/Inge Cabrera Sheff Pudge/Inge Jones-Thames Renteria And a rotation of... Verlander Bondo Willis Rogers Robertson edit: Inge will platoon with Pudge and Maggs but I hear they are trying to move Thames because of smaller contract. Inge is now a $6 million utility guy.

Author:	BD [ Tue Dec 04, 2007 7:18 pm ]
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buryman wrote: Just heard that Maybin and 5 other prospects to Marlins for Willis and Cabera to the Tigers. That line up is going to produce some runs if i'm not mistaken Granderson Polanco Guillen Maggs Cabrera Sheff Pudge Inge Jones-Thaymes Renturia And a rotation of... Verlander Bondo Willis Rogers Robertson Between Detroit, NY, Angels, and Boston, the top of the AL is pretty insane.

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Author:	buryman [ Tue Dec 04, 2007 7:22 pm ]
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It's like the AFC vs. NFC and Western Conference vs. Eastern Conference - why oh why can't their be competitive balance?

Author:	BD [ Tue Dec 04, 2007 9:37 pm ]
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Nas wrote: The Sox might as well take the next 5 years off. They have no chance to do anything in that division. Barring something insane happening, I think you are right.

Author:	good dolphin [ Wed Dec 05, 2007 10:17 am ]
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Nas wrote: The Sox might as well take the next 5 years off. They have no chance to do anything in that division. Not take it off but completely change their approach. Crede should only be moved for prospects or Capuano. There is a reported deal of Konerko to the D-backs for Ownings, Connor Jackson and Pena. Make it. Look to trade Thome immediately. Get anything you can for Contrearas without eating money. Let the kids fight for the starting rotation and let the winners pitch through their problems. See if Dye would be willing to move. Do not purchase a single one of the veteran free agents.

Author:	sportsfan [ Wed Dec 05, 2007 2:06 pm ]
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from espn: How did Cabrera find out he'd been traded? Ozzie Guillen's wife told him. Guillen's wife and Cabrera's wife are close friends. So when Guillen called his wife to tell her that Cabrera had just been traded, she replied: "Guess what? He's sitting right next to me. I'm driving him to the airport."

Author:	schmitty1121 [ Sun Mar 23, 2008 12:01 pm ]
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Tigers reportedly have given Cabera a 8 yr. 153.8 million extension.

Author:	man of few opinions [ Sun Mar 23, 2008 6:53 pm ]
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schmitty1121 wrote: Tigers reportedly have given Cabera a 8 yr. 153.8 million extension. that ought to cover his meal money.

Author:	Hawkeye Vince [ Mon Mar 24, 2008 2:30 pm ]
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As a sox fan, I would have loved to see him come to the south side, but after seeing this deal, I see the reality that they would have never been able to re-sign him.

Author:	Bagels [ Mon Mar 24, 2008 2:41 pm ]
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Hawkeye Vince wrote: As a sox fan, I would have loved to see him come to the south side, but after seeing this deal, I see the reality that they would have never been able to re-sign him. But yet Detroit was?

Author:	Hawkeye Vince [ Mon Mar 24, 2008 3:48 pm ]
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A fact is a fact - no way in hell Jerry would have allowed Kenny to spend almost 20M a year for Miggy.

Author:	schmitty1121 [ Tue Jun 03, 2008 10:33 pm ]
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Another 5 walks for Willis in 4 innings so far tonight.

Author:	suckers playground [ Wed Jun 11, 2008 12:27 am ]
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it strikes me as immensely responsible of the tigers that they'd essentially "re-start" him like this. he's young enough that they may be able to "rebuild" him into the kind of pitcher they need. the tigers are protecting their investment - using him in long relief on the mlb club or letting him waste away at AAA toledo would be a waste of time and money for everyone involved.

Author:	Curious Hair [ Wed Jun 11, 2008 5:48 pm ]
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It's as if the Marlins trade away time bombs. I hate that organization so much.

Author:	Nas [ Tue Aug 27, 2013 9:52 pm ]
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This still hurts.

Author:	Bagels [ Mon Mar 24, 2008 3:51 pm ]
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I agree with you, just pointing out the foolishness of it

Author:	Keyser Soze [ Wed Apr 23, 2008 11:44 am ]
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The Tigers announced that Miguel Cabrera will begin playing first base on a regular basis, with Carlos Guillen moving to third. Sometimes the best trades are the ones you don't make.

Author:	Frank Coztansa [ Wed Apr 23, 2008 11:46 am ]
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I love seeing Detroit scuffling.

Author:	My Coach Vinny [ Tue Jun 03, 2008 11:51 pm ]
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I think he'll be alright. Just having a real bad year. I don't think roids help one find the strike zone.

Author:	schmitty1121 [ Wed Jun 04, 2008 12:06 am ]
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Coach Crapowski wrote: I think he'll be alright. Just having a real bad year. I don't think roids help one find the strike zone. Last year was bad also.

Author:	KDdidit [ Wed Jun 04, 2008 12:39 am ]
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schmitty1121 wrote: Last year was bad also. His ERA and WHIP has been going up every year since 2005.

Author:	Mustang Rob [ Wed Jun 04, 2008 11:33 am ]
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Nas wrote: Is he injured or was he taking something no one knew about. The guy went from being one of the best young pitchers in the game to being a bum in 1 year. He is hurt, but has been hiding it until he got the long term deal. His velocity hasn't been the same in 3 years. I see a trip to Birmingham Alabama in his very near future. As a matter of fact, with his delivery the Marlins should have prepaid for hi TJ surgery back when he came up.

Author:	schmitty1121 [ Tue Jun 10, 2008 11:36 pm ]
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Willis was sent to single A today, bet they regret the contract extension they gave him now.

Author:	KDdidit [ Wed Jun 11, 2008 12:50 am ]
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He's a good hitter, can always Ankiel him.

Author:	KDdidit [ Tue Aug 27, 2013 2:01 pm ]
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Keyser Soze wrote: While the Tigers may have a deal about wrapped up, the White Sox also made a strong push to acquire Miguel Cabrera this afternoon, offering Josh Fields, Gio Gonzalez and either John Danks or Gavin Floyd. Joe Capozzi of the Palm Beach Post thinks that deal is going to happen, while MLB.com is reporting that Cabrera is likely Detroit bound. It's hard to trust a report that rather equates Danks with Floyd. Danks would be the most valuable property the White Sox have to offer, while Floyd just doesn't have a lot of trade value left. It looks like Kenny gave it his best shot. Fields is a no brainer but Gonzalez and Danks? Hard to believe Florida didn't jump at that offer. Oh what could have been.

Author:	good dolphin [ Wed Aug 28, 2013 9:33 am ]
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Who were the six tiger prospects? Is there any way they were better than what Gio and Danks have turned out to be

Author:	Frank Coztansa [ Wed Aug 28, 2013 9:42 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Cabera/Willis
December 4, 2007: Traded by the Florida Marlins with Dontrelle Willis to the Detroit Tigers for Dallas Trahern (minors), Burke Badenhop, Frankie De La Cruz, Cameron Maybin, Andrew Miller and Mike Rabelo.

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