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How long before it is leaked?

If a player is not named in this report it doesn't mean he's clean, it mean he wasn't dumb enough to get caught.

I think this report is a joke. 68 players ?

I think at least half the teams are juiced up on HGH, which there is no test for, and previously probably a higher % than that.

Even if you think my percentage is high, wasn't this covering the a 3 or 4 year time period ? 2003 to 2005 ?

I'm sure a few of the names on the report will keep the attention from the fact that this report is a joke.

BD wrote:

There is absolutely no fucking value to it.
There were over 100 players who tested positive back in 2003 leading to implementation of the testing policy.
Last I checked,
100 > 68, still. :shock:

So I guess Mitchell didn't even have access to those test results

That's all I needed to know.

Juiced:

J.Crede
P.Konerko
S.Posednik (how do you think he hit that 1 hr)

Juiced wrote:

Juiced:

J.Crede
P.Konerko
S.Posednik (how do you think he hit that 1 hr)

Well isn't that just freaking fantastic...it wasn't a "clean" sweep! :wink:

Houston Homer wrote:

Juiced wrote:

Juiced:

J.Crede
P.Konerko
S.Posednik (how do you think he hit that 1 hr)

Well isn't that just freaking fantastic...it wasn't a "clean" sweep! :wink:

Christ, I am so tired of hearing about this. Who cares?

Rich Garces?

RICH GARCES???

:lol:

you're surprised by the nomar one?

boston globe wrote about that years ago, when he went to the cubs i think.

I must have missed that or just not allowed myself to believe it.
Given that most of the guys on that list have had injuries, makes you wonder what came first the chicken or the egg?
Injuries cause by the junk or junk taken to come back from injuries?

it says the list isn't entirely accurate...so i'm still waiting for the real list.

Author:	schmitty1121 [ Tue Dec 11, 2007 6:13 pm ]
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Teams have received the Mitchell Report, and are in the process of looking it over before its released later this week.

Author:	BD [ Tue Dec 11, 2007 7:54 pm ]
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Any prediction for White Sox or Cubs players ? I'm thinking Soto on the Cubs, and I wouldn't be shocked if Thome's name came up.

Author:	Frank Coztansa [ Tue Dec 11, 2007 8:00 pm ]
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id be shocked to see thome or thomas on there. while thier power numbers havent gone down all that much, the average sure has and they've been hurt a lot.

Author:	schmitty1121 [ Tue Dec 11, 2007 8:02 pm ]
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Not sure about Soto since he is a younger guy. I think Thome is a possibility. Reports say anywhere from 60-85 players will be named.

Author:	Juiced [ Tue Dec 11, 2007 10:33 pm ]
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Juiced: J.Crede P.Konerko S.Posednik (how do you think he hit that 1 hr) M.Prior S.Sosa M.Delrosa

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Author:	schmitty1121 [ Tue Dec 11, 2007 11:51 pm ]
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Nas wrote: How long before it is leaked? Comes out Thursday, so I don't think it matters.

Author:	Colonel Angus [ Wed Dec 12, 2007 2:22 pm ]
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I'm pretty sure Bonds, McGwire, Sosa, Prior, Wood, Rafael Palmeiro, Juan Gonzalez, Curt Schilling, Roger Clemens and Eric Gagne will all be on their. No big suprises.

Author:	BD [ Wed Dec 12, 2007 2:51 pm ]
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I think this report is a joke. 68 players ? I think at least half the teams are juiced up on HGH, which there is no test for, and previously probably a higher % than that. Even if you think my percentage is high, wasn't this covering the a 3 or 4 year time period ? 2003 to 2005 ? I'm sure a few of the names on the report will keep the attention from the fact that this report is a joke.

Author:	Keyser Soze [ Wed Dec 12, 2007 2:57 pm ]
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If a player is not named in this report it doesn't mean he's clean, it mean he wasn't dumb enough to get caught.

Author:	Bagels [ Wed Dec 12, 2007 2:58 pm ]
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Keyser Soze wrote: If a player is not named in this report it doesn't mean he's clean, it mean he wasn't dumb enough to get caught. Or dumb enough to be randomly accused

Author:	Mustang Rob [ Wed Dec 12, 2007 3:07 pm ]
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BD wrote: I think this report is a joke. 68 players ? I think at least half the teams are juiced up on HGH, which there is no test for, and previously probably a higher % than that. Even if you think my percentage is high, wasn't this covering the a 3 or 4 year time period ? 2003 to 2005 ? I'm sure a few of the names on the report will keep the attention from the fact that this report is a joke. There is absolutely no fucking value to it. There were over 100 players who tested positive back in 2003 leading to implementation of the testing policy. Last I checked, 100 > 68, still. So I guess Mitchell didn't even have access to those test results That's all I needed to know.

Author:	BD [ Wed Dec 12, 2007 4:18 pm ]
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Mustang Rob wrote: BD wrote: I think this report is a joke. 68 players ? I think at least half the teams are juiced up on HGH, which there is no test for, and previously probably a higher % than that. Even if you think my percentage is high, wasn't this covering the a 3 or 4 year time period ? 2003 to 2005 ? I'm sure a few of the names on the report will keep the attention from the fact that this report is a joke. There is absolutely no fucking value to it. There were over 100 players who tested positive back in 2003 leading to implementation of the testing policy. Last I checked, 100 > 68, still. So I guess Mitchell didn't even have access to those test results That's all I needed to know. I'd say with 32 teams in the league, that there are at least 300 players in the league taking HGH or some other undectable form, and there are just a few who get caught because they are complete morons.

Author:	Mustang Rob [ Wed Dec 12, 2007 4:46 pm ]
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If they really wanted to fully investigate the issue, the travel records of the players would be more telling then medical records. Every player that had personally visited or had members of the family visit Mexico, Puerto Rico, Dominican Republic or any other country that historically relies on pharmacists to distribute drugs that are controlled here in the States would be a suspect. Bottom line is that MLB, NFL, or the NBA has no desire to curtail the usage beyond the cosmetic appearance of the current policies. Smaller, slower, and weaker competitors would be bad for business.

Author:	Houston Homer [ Wed Dec 12, 2007 5:00 pm ]
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Juiced wrote: Juiced: J.Crede P.Konerko S.Posednik (how do you think he hit that 1 hr) Well isn't that just freaking fantastic...it wasn't a "clean" sweep!

Author:	UrlachersOranjKleats [ Thu Dec 13, 2007 9:50 am ]
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You're just a rotten old spider, Mr. Potter. You sit there and spin your little webs, and by golly, it's just wrong, wrong I said. Didn't you read the headlines about that Harry Bailey? Never took a steroid in his life, that boy.

Author:	doug - evergreen park [ Thu Dec 13, 2007 11:58 am ]
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the list is on Deadspin http://deadspin.com/sports/is-this-the-list%3F/is-this-the-list-of-players-mentioned-333479.php

Author:	doug - evergreen park [ Thu Dec 13, 2007 12:05 pm ]
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or you could have just clicked the link...

Author:	sportsfan [ Thu Dec 13, 2007 12:05 pm ]
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Pujols - no way!

Author:	OldSchoolScoreFan [ Wed Dec 12, 2007 7:01 pm ]
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Houston Homer wrote: Juiced wrote: Juiced: J.Crede P.Konerko S.Posednik (how do you think he hit that 1 hr) Well isn't that just freaking fantastic...it wasn't a "clean" sweep! Christ, I am so tired of hearing about this. Who cares?

Author:	Houston Homer [ Thu Dec 13, 2007 9:02 am ]
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OldSchoolScoreFan wrote: Houston Homer wrote: Juiced wrote: Juiced: J.Crede P.Konerko S.Posednik (how do you think he hit that 1 hr) Well isn't that just freaking fantastic...it wasn't a "clean" sweep! Christ, I am so tired of hearing about this. Who cares? Ummm...I'm a homer from Houston...I care.

Author:	Bagels [ Thu Dec 13, 2007 12:08 pm ]
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Rich Garces? RICH GARCES???

Author:	W_Z [ Thu Dec 13, 2007 12:17 pm ]
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it says the list isn't entirely accurate...so i'm still waiting for the real list. it's kind of sad that this is exciting...

Author:	Keyser Soze [ Thu Dec 13, 2007 12:20 pm ]
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Baku wrote: Rich Garces? RICH GARCES??? There's a cautionary tale for ya. See what happens when you eat steroids!

Author:	Mustang Rob [ Thu Dec 13, 2007 12:21 pm ]
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Brady Anderson - Well Duh! Manny Alexander - who? Rick Ankiel - known Jeff Bagwell - kind of a surprise Barry Bonds - nuff said Aaron Boone - no comment Rafael Bettancourt - known Bret Boone - obvious Milton Bradley - obvious David Bell - who cares Dante Bichette - makes sense Albert Belle - makes sense Paul Byrd - known Wil Cordero - who cares Ken Caminiti - known Mike Cameron - known Ramon Castro - who Jose and Ozzie Canseco - Duh Roger Clemens - long susspected Paxton Crawford - who Wilson Delgado - who Lenny Dykstra - known Johnny Damon - long rumored Carl Everett - obvious Kyle Farnsworth - obvious Ryan Franklin - known Troy Glaus - news Rich Garces - should have tried ephedra Jason Grimsley - known Troy Glaus - so good it's in here twice Juan Gonzalez - known Eric Gagne - surprise Nomar Garciaparra - big surprise Jason Giambi - known Jeremy Giambi - obvious Jose Guillen - known Jay Gibbons - known Juan Gonzalez - known 2* Clay Hensley - who Jerry Hairston - didn't work Felix Heredia, Jr. - who cares Darren Holmes - who Wally Joyner - surprise Darryl Kile - lets start connecting those dots... Matt Lawton - who cares Raul Mondesi - suspected Mark McGwire - known Guillermo Mota - known Robert Machado - funny Damian Moss - who Abraham Nunez - who Trot Nixon - got some bad stuff Jose Offerman - LOL Andy Pettitte - not thasurprising given the association Mark Prior - suspected Neifi Perez - known Rafael Palmiero - known Albert Pujols - suspected Brian Roberts - rumored/known Juan Rincon - known John Rocker - it all makes sense now Pudge Rodriguez - known Sammy Sosa - known Scott Schoenweiis - known David Segui - known Alex Sanchez - known Gary Sheffield - known Miguel Tejada - romored/known Julian Tavarez - explains a lot Fernando Tatis - rumored Mo Vaughn - see rich garces Jason Varitek - surprise Ismael Valdes - ??? Matt Williams - explains the hair loss Kerry Wood - rumored Not shocked by too many of the names. Looks like it's more of an east coast thing.

Author:	W_Z [ Thu Dec 13, 2007 12:27 pm ]
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you're surprised by the nomar one? boston globe wrote about that years ago, when he went to the cubs i think.

Author:	Krazy Ivan [ Thu Dec 13, 2007 12:28 pm ]
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This list is going to change everything... I can't figure out why Bud Selig did this in the first place. Just admit everyone screwed up and move on. By the way Mark Prior? Really? He must have been taking those bizzaro-steroids that make injuries worse.

Author:	Mustang Rob [ Thu Dec 13, 2007 12:34 pm ]
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W_Z wrote: you're surprised by the nomar one? boston globe wrote about that years ago, when he went to the cubs i think. I must have missed that or just not allowed myself to believe it. Given that most of the guys on that list have had injuries, makes you wonder what came first the chicken or the egg? Injuries cause by the junk or junk taken to come back from injuries?

Author:	W_Z [ Thu Dec 13, 2007 12:37 pm ]
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Mustang Rob wrote: I must have missed that or just not allowed myself to believe it. Given that most of the guys on that list have had injuries, makes you wonder what came first the chicken or the egg? Injuries cause by the junk or junk taken to come back from injuries? i didn't want to believe it either; i don't remember who wrote it, if it was bob ryan, but it was a speculation about him using during his time with the red sox, then i think it dealt with the cubs injury...and adding questions there. i ask the same question about the injuries...

Author:	sportsfan [ Thu Dec 13, 2007 12:38 pm ]
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W_Z wrote: it says the list isn't entirely accurate...so i'm still waiting for the real list. There's some obvious missing names (e.g. David Eckstein).

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