Inspired by BF and AGBOBs "discussion" about who took more roids Joe Contreras or Mark Prior?


So heres the initial list of guys who havent been suspended or on any lists...but I mean cmon...

Sammy Sosa
Kerry Wood
Mark Prior
Mark Bellhorn (may have been on list)
Jose Contreras
Aaron Rowand
David Ortiz
Trot Nixon
Travis Hafner
Greg Vaugn (the HR chase was a 3 man derby for a while)
Bret Boone
Aaron Fuckn Boone
Eric Chavez (might as well have had a syringe in his back pocket)
Shawn Green (hit 10 hr in a week in 2002)
Rich Aurrelia (37 Hrs )
Jose Cruz (barely remember him...hit 34 homers in 2001)
Phil Nevin
Richie Sexson
Richard Hidalgo
Steve Finley
Tony Batista
Andruw Jones (spanky)sites current suckitude
pudge rodriguez (Walkman) sites 40 lb weigt loss
Big men who played football in the SEC (Good Dolphin)
Roy Ozwalt (lacticsolardust)sites quality time spent with clemens and pettite
Luis Gonzalez (Tommy P1) sites reality
Derek Lee (Hatchetman)
Dante Bichette and His Son (man of few opinions)sites his 12 year old son's third arm
Jim Edmonds (Lipidquadcab)
Craig Biggio-(Phil McCracken) (sites ability to play 3 postions well for 20 years)
[b]Vinny Castilla-(Phil McCracken) (sites reality)
Larry Walker-(Phil McCracken)
Jeff Kent (Phil McCracken)
Bobby Abreu (Phil McCracken)
Carlos Delgado (Phil McCracken)-106 RBI at the all star break
Derek Bell-(Douchebag)
Juan Gonzalez-(Douchebag) 100 RBI at break
Mo Vaughn-(Douchebag) The 90's version of David Ortiz
Preston Wilson-(Douchebag) Cmon
Raul Mondesi-(Douchebag) where the hell is this guy?
Darren Daulton-(Walt Williams Neck) Shut the fuck Daulton
Chris in St Charles-Himself and Killer V
jay bell-(man of few opinions)sites magical diamondbacks "gatorade"
Mark whitten-(Douchebag) 4 home runs in one game

forgive me if any of the above were already caught or were caught while im typing this.

Anybody else think Andruw Jones complete disappearance last couple of years is suspicious?

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I don't think Ortiz was juicing...

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Ба́бушка гада́ла, да на́двое сказа́ла—то ли до́ждик, то ли снег, то ли бу́дет, то ли нет.

it'd be easier to make a list of guys who weren't juicing.

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Reality is your friend, not your enemy. -- Seacrest

pudge rodriguez

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Proud to be UNVERIFIED.

Everyone who has put on a major league uniform since the year 1990.

Fukudome and Alexei ramirez.

That's it. End of that list - let's get back to the other one.

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Matt Clement
Kyle Farnsworth
Michael Barrett
Nomar
Armais Ramirez
Corey Patterson

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From a fictional future conversation between Red Sox fans



The events of that magical fall of 2004 are now in question."And what about Big Papi?" he wonders. "Played for Minnesota, didn't hit for power, came to the Red Sox, turned into the best slugger in the league, and as soon as they cracked down on steroids, he stopped hitting homers again. And he was friends with all the other Dominican players who were linked to performance-enhancing drugs. What about him?"



Silence. Nobody says anything.



Finally, my dad steps in: "He had an inside-outside swing at Minnesota, when he came to Boston, we encouraged him to pull the ball, so ..."



"Come on, Gramps!" my son says. "That's dumb, and you know it."



We glance out to the field. Big Papi is one of Boston's coaches now. After he hit 54 homers in 2006, his career was over within four years. Now he's just a fat guy in his early 40s coaching first base. You would never guess this is the same guy who carried us in 2004, the guy who fueled the Greatest Comeback Ever, the guy who helped convince an entire fan base that, yes, we could believe.

What makes you think Aramis juiced? Has his body changed much or his numbers went up dramatcially or anything?

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."

Hes lost a good deal of weight since 2003 2004...not sure

I wrote it in another thread, I delude myself into going with the company line but it would be absolutely amazing that a big man who played football in the SEC never took roids.

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

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Adrian Beltre
Troy Glaus
Alfonso Soriano
Jim Thome
Carlos Quentin

sandberg (premature hair loss, big jump in HRs, loss of sex drive).

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Reality is your friend, not your enemy. -- Seacrest

Richard Hidalgo 44 Hr's and 1.027 OPS in 2000
Steve Finley Cmaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhnnnn
Tony Batista

Beltre and Glaus were on lists...the other 3 are debateable...Debate them.

interesting and funny...like CJH only interesting and funny

Roy Oswalt. Pitched with both Clemens and Pettit in 2005.

ok that coupled with his recent injury history...hes on the cmaaahhhn list

Luis Gonzalez

good call...cant believe i missed that

How I Changed My Swing and Added 30 HR's to My Yearly Total
by Luis Gonzalez

Edmonds? Rolen? Any takers?

At his peak, there was nobody better than Thomas. He is the best right handed hitter I have ever seen. There wasn't a "wow, look how big he got!" moment, nor was there anything like that with his stats like alot of these other guys. He put up great, consistent numbers for a long stretch of time. Then, got older....then, got hurt. In turn, his numbers went down. Even when he was "healthy" later in his career, he very rarely hit HRs to right field because he couldn't anymore. His skills clearly went backwards. Thats whats supposed to happen to a slugger who plays the game the right way. I firmly believe Thomas did.

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This should be sung while reading Frank's masterpiece

Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Lord:
He is trampling out the vintage where the grapes of wrath are stored;
He hath loosed the fateful lightning of His terrible swift sword:
His truth is marching on.
(Chorus)
Glory, glory, hallelujah!
Glory, glory, hallelujah!
Glory, glory, hallelujah!
His truth is marching on.
I have seen Him in the watch-fires of a hundred circling camps,
They have builded Him an altar in the evening dews and damps;
I can read His righteous sentence by the dim and flaring lamps:
His day is marching on.
(Chorus)
Glory, glory, hallelujah!
Glory, glory, hallelujah!
Glory, glory, hallelujah!
His day is marching on.
I have read a fiery gospel writ in burnished rows of steel:
"As ye deal with my contemners, so with you my grace shall deal;
Let the Hero, born of woman, crush the serpent with his heel,
Since God is marching on."
(Chorus)
Glory, glory, hallelujah!
Glory, glory, hallelujah!
Glory, glory, hallelujah!
Since God is marching on.
He has sounded forth the trumpet that shall never call retreat;
He is sifting out the hearts of men before His judgment-seat:
Oh, be swift, my soul, to answer Him! be jubilant, my feet!
Our God is marching on.
(Chorus)
Glory, glory, hallelujah!
Glory, glory, hallelujah!
Glory, glory, hallelujah!
Our God is marching on.
In the beauty of the lilies Christ was born across the sea,
With a glory in His bosom that transfigures you and me:
As He died to make men holy, let us die to make men free,
While God is marching on.
(Chorus)
Glory, glory, hallelujah!
Glory, glory, hallelujah!
Glory, glory, hallelujah!
While God is marching on.
He is coming like the glory of the morning on the wave,
He is Wisdom to the mighty, He is Succour to the brave,
So the world shall be His footstool, and the soul of Time His slave,
Our God is marching on.
(Chorus)
Glory, glory, hallelujah!
Glory, glory, hallelujah!
Glory, glory, hallelujah!
Our God is marching on.

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

was D-Lee noted?

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Reality is your friend, not your enemy. -- Seacrest

Edmonds? Pretty sure he did...

Rolen? Would put serious coin on the line that he did...

When was Manny's 'wow' moment/year?? With everything we now know I can't believe someone is still willing to blindly defend a baseball player.

Adrian Beltre.