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| Author: | schmitty1121 [ Sun Jul 19, 2009 3:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Cardinals |
I really hate this team. Besides the fact they have the biggest juicer in the game on their team, all their starting pitchers have odd/creepy mustaches. Their closer is also creepy looking, and sucks, but has been getting lucky somehow. |
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| Author: | jimmypasta [ Sun Jul 19, 2009 3:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cardinals |
schmitty1121 wrote: I really hate this team. Besides the fact they have the biggest juicer in the game on their team, all their starting pitchers have odd/creepy mustaches. Their closer is also creepy looking, and sucks, but has been getting lucky somehow. Don't forget the Serious as Shit manager! |
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| Author: | lipidquadcab [ Sun Jul 19, 2009 4:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cardinals |
schmitty1121 wrote: I really hate this team. Besides the fact they have the biggest juicer in the game on their team, all their starting pitchers have odd/creepy mustaches. Their closer is also creepy looking, and sucks, but has been getting lucky somehow. So your main complaints are that you THINK a guy is juicing and the pitchers are creepy looking? |
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| Author: | schmitty1121 [ Sun Jul 19, 2009 6:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cardinals |
And their manager is a drunken asswipe, and their fans are hillbilly dopes. |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Sun Jul 19, 2009 6:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cardinals |
Ozzie Smiths acrobatics always seemed out of place. Jack Clark was a jerk. Dave Duncan cheats (or is a wizard of some sorts...lipid?) |
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| Author: | W_Z [ Sun Jul 19, 2009 6:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cardinals |
schmitty1121 wrote: And their manager is a drunken asswipe, and their fans are hillbilly dopes. this could be said of many managers, of many fanbases... |
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| Author: | lipidquadcab [ Sun Jul 19, 2009 7:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cardinals |
rogers park bryan wrote: Dave Duncan cheats (or is a wizard of some sorts...lipid?) Fuck yeah he's a wizard...how else can you explain getting meaningful innings out of the likes of Todd Wellenmeyer, Jeff Suppan, Jason Marquis, and my personal favorite, Jeff Fassero... |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Sun Jul 19, 2009 8:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cardinals |
W_Z wrote: schmitty1121 wrote: And their manager is a drunken asswipe, and their fans are hillbilly dopes. this could be said of many managers, of many fanbases... At least one of which is in Chicago. Its easy to say Pujols is juicing, but if he weren't a Cardinal, Cubs fans would barely notice him. Yeah, he is having a monster year, but he's always been a beast and always put up HUGE numbers. Everybody needs to STFU with this 'Albert is juicing' bullshit until he gets suspended for failing a drug test. Suspect all you want, but to convict this guy (especially this guy) based on just some great numbers is fucking stupid. |
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| Author: | Keyser Soze [ Sun Jul 19, 2009 9:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cardinals |
I'll use the same arguement I used when everyone told me A-Pud wasn't juicing: The best hitter during the steroid era is clean? |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Sun Jul 19, 2009 10:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cardinals |
I think with some of the suspensions handed out, its pretty clear that this testing thing is at least starting to work. Again, not saying Pujols is clean. Just saying that automatically assuming he is not clean is pretty ignorant. |
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| Author: | Mr. Reason [ Sun Jul 19, 2009 10:35 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cardinals |
Frank Coztansa wrote: I think with some of the suspensions handed out, its pretty clear that this testing thing is at least starting to work. Again, not saying Pujols is clean. Just saying that automatically assuming he is not clean is pretty ignorant. Why is it pretty ignorant? No one is beyond suspicion. Like Keyser said, why would we not suspect the best player of the steroid era? Oh yeah, he didn't juice, he's just better than all the juicers and everyone else who has ever played the game...spare me. |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Mon Jul 20, 2009 7:53 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cardinals |
Mr. Reason wrote: Oh yeah, he didn't juice, he's just better than all the juicers and everyone else who has ever played the game...spare me. So thats not even a remote possibility? Look, its not like Pujols came out of nowhere and starting hitting 40+ HRs a season. He was always putting up great power numbers. Even ARod had that spike in numbers when he was juicing in Texas. Albert has consistently put up numbers that are at or near the league lead each and every year. Not just power, average too. Its obvious the guy is a great hitter. Nobody (sans Greg Maddux and Frank Thomas) is above suspicion. But nobody should have an asterisk next to thier name unless there is some sort of proof that he was juicing. |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Mon Jul 20, 2009 8:03 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cardinals |
lipidquadcab wrote: rogers park bryan wrote: Dave Duncan cheats (or is a wizard of some sorts...lipid?) Fuck yeah he's a wizard...how else can you explain getting meaningful innings out of the likes of Todd Wellenmeyer, Jeff Suppan, Jason Marquis, and my personal favorite, Jeff Fassero... Jeff Weaver? Ive written this in other threads but I truly believe he's cheating or increasing his odds somehow...The fact that guys suck after they leave is puzzling to me. I dont know if that speaks more to his genius or raises an eyebrow Jeff Fuckn Weaver. Ryan Franklin? Julian Tavarez even!!?? |
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| Author: | Keyser Soze [ Mon Jul 20, 2009 9:18 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cardinals |
Frank Coztansa wrote: Mr. Reason wrote: Oh yeah, he didn't juice, he's just better than all the juicers and everyone else who has ever played the game...spare me. So thats not even a remote possibility? Look, its not like Pujols came out of nowhere and starting hitting 40+ HRs a season. He was always putting up great power numbers. Even ARod had that spike in numbers when he was juicing in Texas. Albert has consistently put up numbers that are at or near the league lead each and every year. Not just power, average too. Its obvious the guy is a great hitter. Nobody (sans Greg Maddux and Frank Thomas) is above suspicion. But nobody should have an asterisk next to thier name unless there is some sort of proof that he was juicing. So the possibility that he started juicing in the minors is out of the equation? He was a 13th round draft pick. He absolutely came out of nowhere. |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Mon Jul 20, 2009 9:22 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cardinals |
Is Mark Buehrle juicing? He was something like a 32nd round pick. |
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| Author: | Keyser Soze [ Mon Jul 20, 2009 9:28 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cardinals |
You have to assume the worst. Baseball has done everything to sweep the steroid issue under the rug so NO ONE is above suspicion. I'll certainly never call someone 'ignorant' for saying he is. |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Mon Jul 20, 2009 10:00 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cardinals |
POint taken, but that draft pick logic is terrible. There have been late round picks that have ended up being stars. Conversely, there have been very high picks (Joe Borchard, Prior, etc) that have not worked out. |
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| Author: | SteveSarley [ Mon Jul 20, 2009 10:09 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cardinals |
Frank Coztansa wrote: W_Z wrote: schmitty1121 wrote: And their manager is a drunken asswipe, and their fans are hillbilly dopes. this could be said of many managers, of many fanbases... At least one of which is in Chicago. I take exception to that, or at least part of it. You have no evidence that Ozzie is a drunken asswipe. At least no evidence about his drinking habits. |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Tue Jul 21, 2009 9:10 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cardinals |
The reason Pujols was drafted in the 13th round instead of the first was his body. He could always hit. But he was out of shape. He was fat. He fixed that somehow. Im just sayin |
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| Author: | Keyser Soze [ Tue Jul 21, 2009 9:31 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cardinals |
I'm sure it was because of Flintstone vitamins. |
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| Author: | Keyser Soze [ Wed Jul 22, 2009 4:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cardinals |
According to Bernie Miklasz of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, the Cardinals have acquired shortstop Julio Lugo for outfielder Chris Duncan. Ick. Double Ick. edit: there's some question whether this deal happened because the Red Sox traded for LaRoche. |
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| Author: | lipidquadcab [ Wed Jul 22, 2009 4:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cardinals |
rogers park bryan wrote: Ive written this in other threads but I truly believe he's cheating or increasing his odds somehow He is cheating...he uses the Contra code before every game... |
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| Author: | Apologist [ Wed Jul 22, 2009 4:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cardinals |
Keyser Soze wrote: According to Bernie Miklasz of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, the Cardinals have acquired shortstop Julio Lugo for outfielder Chris Duncan. Ick. Double Ick. That's a nothing trade... not sure what it does other than relieve the glut of outfielders.. |
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| Author: | Bucky Chris [ Wed Jul 22, 2009 4:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cardinals |
I bet Dave Duncan is thrilled. |
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| Author: | Bucky Chris [ Wed Jul 22, 2009 7:10 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cardinals |
There are internet rumors that maybe TLR and Dave Duncan are so pissed over the trade, they may have threatened to quit. |
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| Author: | schmitty1121 [ Wed Jul 22, 2009 9:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cardinals |
Chris in St. Charles wrote: There are internet rumors that maybe TLR and Dave Duncan are so pissed over the trade, they may have threatened to quit. That sounds about right, lets be mad we traded a shitty player away. |
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| Author: | Ugueth Will Shiv You [ Fri Jul 24, 2009 2:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cardinals |
Well guess what? This team just got a lot better. Welcome to St. Louis, Matt. |
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| Author: | Keyser Soze [ Fri Jul 24, 2009 5:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cardinals |
Zoinks, this is a pretty formidable lineup: J. Lugo/Schumaker 2b M. DeRosa 3b A. Pujols 1b M. Holliday lf R. Ludwick rf Y. Molina c R. Ankiel/Rasmus cf B. Ryan ss |
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| Author: | Jalapenos and More [ Fri Jul 24, 2009 5:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cardinals |
3 juicers in that lineup, at least. |
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| Author: | Keyser Soze [ Fri Jul 24, 2009 6:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cardinals |
How is that different from any other major league lineup? |
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