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| Author: | kujoe_7 [ Sun Dec 13, 2009 7:26 am ] |
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Interesting Non-Tenders By Tim Dierkes [December 13 at 12:26am CST] Dozens of players were non-tendered today, and they've been added to our 2010 free agents list. It's fitting that these players comprise the youngest free agents, since they were cut before tallying six years of service time. It should be noted that a one-year deal for many of these players can become more, as quite a few would again be arbitration-eligible after the 2010 season. Let's take a look at the most interesting non-tenders... Matt Capps, RP - The decision to let Capps go was a surprise move by the Pirates. The 26-year-old did fine work closing for the Bucs in 2007 and '08. His career BB/9 is just 1.7. His elbow was bruised twice this year, but Capps was otherwise healthy as his hits and home runs allowed ballooned. Kelly Johnson, 2B - Dealing with a wrist injury, Johnson hit .224/.303/.389 and lost the starting second base job in Atlanta. He's an interesting pickup given his offensive success in the two years prior. Johnson turns 28 in February. D.J. Carrasco, SP/RP - It was surprising to see Carrasco's name pop up as a possible non-tender on Friday, but it became a reality today. The righty, 33 in April, led MLB in relief innings and did solid work with a 3.76 ERA. Carrasco hopes to start in 2010, according to MLB.com's Scott Merkin. Chien-Ming Wang, SP - Wang, 30 in March, had strong years in '06 and '07 as the Yankees' mid-rotation groundball specialist. He had shoulder surgery in July but hopes to be ready by May 1st. Jack Cust, DH/OF - Cust is the AL strikeout leader for three years running, but he's also hit at least 25 home runs and drawn at least 90 walks in each of those seasons. He'd fit best in a DH role. Ryan Garko, 1B - Garko, 29 in January, has some decent years under his belt but struggled after being traded to the Giants this year. He still handles lefties well. Adam Miller, SP - Miller was once the Indians' top prospect, but he's had tendon surgery performed many times on the middle finger of his pitching hand. John Buck, C - Buck doesn't seem much worse than the veteran catchers currently snagging two-year offers, and he's only 29. He's shown flashes of power at times. Mike MacDougal, RP - MacDougal became a non-tender candidate when the Nationals acquired Brian Bruney last week. He saved 20 games this year but walked more than he struck out. Jonny Gomes, OF - Gomes, 29, hit .267/.338/.541 in 314 plate appearances for the Reds this year, though he did get to face lefties 35% of the time. He's had a hard time shaking the platoon bat label due to a .224/.311/.448 career line against righties. Garrett Atkins, 1B/3B - He has the name value, but his defense and ability to hit away from Coors are in question. This year, he didn't hit at Coors either. Ryan Church, RF - With a career line of .272/.345/.441 and strong right field defense, Church would at the least make a solid fourth outfielder. Jose Arredondo, RP - Armed with a 94 mph fastball, Arredondo posted a 1.62 ERA, 8.1 K/9, and 3.2 BB/9 as a rookie in '08. He struggled this year and is now scheduled for Tommy John surgery. He could be signed with an eye on 2011 |
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| Author: | Aggravated Sox Fan Bob [ Sun Dec 13, 2009 8:57 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Interesting Non-Tenders |
What about Lance Broadway and Brian Anderson? WHITE SOX #1 DRAFT CHOICE STIFFS!!!!!! Take a look at the list of ALL of the bums and count up all of the ex-White Sox!!!! Maybe Ranger can drop by and tell me how wonderful the organization is!!!!!! |
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| Author: | sjboyd0137 [ Sun Dec 13, 2009 11:05 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Interesting Non-Tenders |
With Buck out there now, what about him as a backup for AJ? |
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| Author: | spmack [ Sun Dec 13, 2009 11:08 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Interesting Non-Tenders |
Kujoe just can't let his Kelly Johnson love go.... |
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| Author: | jimmypasta [ Sun Dec 13, 2009 11:11 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Interesting Non-Tenders |
It would be nice of the Cubs to go after a few of these guys just to show the new owners are worried about more stuff then just an ice rink! |
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| Author: | Urlacher's missing neck [ Sun Dec 13, 2009 11:57 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Interesting Non-Tenders |
kujoe_7 wrote: Interesting Non-Tenders By Tim Dierkes [December 13 at 12:26am CST] Dozens of players were non-tendered today, and they've been added to our 2010 free agents list. It's fitting that these players comprise the youngest free agents, since they were cut before tallying six years of service time. It should be noted that a one-year deal for many of these players can become more, as quite a few would again be arbitration-eligible after the 2010 season. Let's take a look at the most interesting non-tenders... Kelly Johnson, 2B - Dealing with a wrist injury, Johnson hit .224/.303/.389 and lost the starting second base job in Atlanta. He's an interesting pickup given his offensive success in the two years prior. Johnson turns 28 in February. John Buck, C - Buck doesn't seem much worse than the veteran catchers currently snagging two-year offers, and he's only 29. He's shown flashes of power at times. Jonny Gomes, OF - Gomes, 29, hit .267/.338/.541 in 314 plate appearances for the Reds this year, though he did get to face lefties 35% of the time. He's had a hard time shaking the platoon bat label due to a .224/.311/.448 career line against righties. Jose Arredondo, RP - Armed with a 94 mph fastball, Arredondo posted a 1.62 ERA, 8.1 K/9, and 3.2 BB/9 as a rookie in '08. He struggled this year and is now scheduled for Tommy John surgery. He could be signed with an eye on 2011 I would give these guys a look, especially arredondo. I realize he is out for the entire season, but he is very young has a good arm and a dirty slider. He wouldtnot cost much as he has maybe a yr and a half of service. I don't think the angels let him go because of his injury. The angels parted with bobby jenks and they knew he was good, this is kind of the same situation. When he was dominant in 08 he had a mentor that allowed him to position himself from nearly being released to making the major league team. I believe that staff member was severely injured in a pedestrian car accident and eventually passed. Bottom line, fix his arm, fix his head and you have a lethal set up man if not future closer. The cubs scouts should know all about him facing him in spring training and azl back in the day. The other guys are just role players, but could be better than the guys currently serving those roles. |
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| Author: | kujoe_7 [ Sun Dec 13, 2009 2:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Interesting Non-Tenders |
sjboyd0137 wrote: With Buck out there now, what about him as a backup for AJ? bluejays 1yr 2million |
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| Author: | Jack Bauer [ Sun Dec 13, 2009 2:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Interesting Non-Tenders |
Capps & Arredondo are the only ones I'd be interested in. Maybe Church as a fourth OF. |
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| Author: | Darkside [ Sun Dec 13, 2009 6:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Interesting Non-Tenders |
Quote: Mike MacDougal, RP - MacDougal became a non-tender candidate when the Nationals acquired Brian Bruney last week. He saved 20 games this year but walked more than he struck out. What's interesting about this one?? |
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| Author: | Colonel Angus [ Sun Dec 13, 2009 6:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Interesting Non-Tenders |
Darkside wrote: Quote: Mike MacDougal, RP - MacDougal became a non-tender candidate when the Nationals acquired Brian Bruney last week. He saved 20 games this year but walked more than he struck out. What's interesting about this one?? He's still in baseball. |
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| Author: | Darkside [ Sun Dec 13, 2009 7:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Interesting Non-Tenders |
Colonel Angus wrote: Darkside wrote: Quote: Mike MacDougal, RP - MacDougal became a non-tender candidate when the Nationals acquired Brian Bruney last week. He saved 20 games this year but walked more than he struck out. What's interesting about this one?? He's still in baseball. Not if he's non-tendered. 
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| Author: | Colonel Angus [ Sun Dec 13, 2009 7:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Interesting Non-Tenders |
Until he gives Frank a call about lighting, the dream is still alive. |
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| Author: | Baby McNown [ Sun Dec 13, 2009 8:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Interesting Non-Tenders |
I wouldn't mind seeing Carasco change sides of town. |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Mon Dec 14, 2009 12:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Interesting Non-Tenders |
Jack Bauer wrote: Capps & Arredondo are the only ones I'd be interested in. Maybe Church as a fourth OF. Capps has a fastball and a fastball. Carasco getting let go still baffles me. |
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| Author: | DegenerateDave [ Mon Dec 14, 2009 12:26 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Interesting Non-Tenders |
I'd be interested in Capps and I might send a scout to take a look at Wang. Ha - look at Wang, that's funny! If Wang's problems were mechanical or injury related, might be able to get him on the cheap for an incentive laden deal. Wouldn't hurt to take a look. |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Mon Dec 14, 2009 12:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Interesting Non-Tenders |
DegenerateDave wrote: If Wang's problems were mechanical or injury related I think its beacuse he's Jewish. |
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| Author: | DegenerateDave [ Mon Dec 14, 2009 12:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Interesting Non-Tenders |
Frank Coztansa wrote: DegenerateDave wrote: If Wang's problems were mechanical or injury related I think its beacuse he's Jewish. Hang on I'll check with Scorehead - lol. |
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| Author: | Keyser Soze [ Mon Dec 14, 2009 12:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Interesting Non-Tenders |
Frank Coztansa wrote: Carasco getting let go still baffles me. I have no problem with it. With the addition of Peavy and Freddy you have to figure the starters will go into the 7th and 8th inning on a more consistent basis than when Contreras and Colon were in the rotation. The long man won't have to log 89 innings next season so you can give that spot to a younger pitcher like Hudson, Torres, Nunez or Santos. |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Mon Dec 14, 2009 12:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Interesting Non-Tenders |
I'd rather Torres and Hudson starting every 5th game in the minors and bring Carasco in during the 3rd or 4th inning when he needs to once or twice a month. Plus, if there is a freak injur or someone comes down the with the flu, he can spot start if you don't want to (or have time to) make a roster move) |
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| Author: | Jack Bauer [ Mon Dec 14, 2009 4:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Interesting Non-Tenders |
Capps wants to pitch for Cubs |
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| Author: | RFDC [ Mon Dec 14, 2009 5:54 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Interesting Non-Tenders |
Isn't Capps Kevin Gregg part 2? |
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| Author: | DegenerateDave [ Mon Dec 14, 2009 5:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Interesting Non-Tenders |
RFDC wrote: Isn't Capps Kevin Gregg part 2? . NO - Capps actually has talent. I want to say that prior to last year, his ERA out of the closer role was low 2's RFDC. |
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| Author: | RFDC [ Mon Dec 14, 2009 6:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Interesting Non-Tenders |
DegenerateDave wrote: RFDC wrote: Isn't Capps Kevin Gregg part 2? . NO - Capps actually has talent. I want to say that prior to last year, his ERA out of the closer role was low 2's RFDC. Ok his stats are a little better than Greggs, but still nothing to really write home about. 2006 3.79 ERA 1 Save 80 IP 81 Hits 12 HR 12 BB 56 K's 1.15 WHIP 2007 2.28 ERA 18 Saves 79 IP 64 Hits 5 HR 16 BB 64 Ks 1.01 WHIP 2008 3.02 ERA 21 Saves 53 IP 47 Hits 5 HR 5 BB 39 Ks 0.969 WHIP 2009 5.80 ERA 27 Saves 54 IP 73 Hits 10 HR 17 BB 46 Ks 1.65 WHIP |
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