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A negro ballplayer getting suspended is no doubt right up your alley.

Frank Coztansa wrote:

A negro ballplayer getting suspended is no doubt right up your alley.

Volstad is white and Morgan is black. I expect both will be suspended as stated in the original post in this thread. Try again.. :roll:

Great stuff. Not the usual Baseball fight. This one was pretty good. Nyjer Morgan bowled over the Marlins catcher (Brett hayes) the night before, so the pitcher (Chris Volstad) plunked Morgan in the ribs as a symbol of the teams feelings about Morgans actions the night before (Hayes ended up with a shoulder injury). Morgan then stole 2nd and 3rd and scored on a sac fly. The next time Morgan came up, the pitcher threw BEHIND Morgan and Morgan went out to the mound, wanting a piece of Volstad. Morgen threw a punch that barely grazed Volstad, before Gabby Sanchez knocked him down with somewhat of a semi clothes-line to Morgan. Morgan baited the crowd afterwards and is likely to be suspended more for that than the fight. I would guess that Volstad might get a game or two off too.

I just watched the video on Foxsports.com, and the Fox Sports Florida version of Sarah Kustok is pretty hot.

What the hell you waitin for? Shoot her a text of your dick.

sjboyd0137 wrote:

I just watched the video on Foxsports.com, and the Fox Sports Florida version of Sarah Kustok is pretty hot.

sjboyd0137 wrote:

I just watched the video on Foxsports.com, and the Fox Sports Florida version of Sarah Kustok is pretty hot.

With some rhinoplasty she has potential.

They should get the same amount...

Krazy Ivan wrote:

They should get the same amount...

Negative; Morgan is a serial asshat and should get a heavier fine at the least, if not more games on top of the "typical" suspension.

Krazy Ivan wrote:

They should get the same amount...

Negative; Morgan is a serial asshat and should get a heavier fine at the least, if not more games on top of the "typical" suspension.

Don Tiny wrote:

Krazy Ivan wrote:

They should get the same amount...

Negative; Morgan is a serial asshat and should get a heavier fine at the least, if not more games on top of the "typical" suspension.

So he's beaned once and then thrown at again, and HE warrants a heavier fine? C'mon DT, no matter how big an asshat Morgan is, Volstad is the clear instigator in this case.

Najer Morgan is an absolute punk for what he did last night with his Nationals getting clobbered by the Marlins at the time of the bench-clearing brawl. He's already appealing a 7-game suspension for a confrontation with a fan at Nationals Park. If MLB had a real "Commissioner" instead of an idiot named Allan H. Selig, Morgan's ass would be done for the rest of the season! It was absolutely despicable!

SHARK wrote:

Yeah, what the hell did he do yesterday to be a punk? It's ok to get thrown at twice by a little bitch like the Marlins pitcher but to charge the mound when you know more than likely you're going to get the worst of it because the other teams infielders are going to get there before your bench and jack you up is bad? Plus the throwing into the stands story isn't as cut and dried as you seem to think it is. You can pin one of the two catcher collisions as a punk move, but I'll play the card and say if Eckstein, Biggio, or Rowand did the same things it would called gritty and an example of fire and the passion, but if Nyjer Morgan does it he's a punk.

Author:	Elmhurst Steve [ Thu Sep 02, 2010 10:13 am ]
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Great stuff. Not the usual Baseball fight. This one was pretty good. Nyjer Morgan bowled over the Marlins catcher (Brett hayes) the night before, so the pitcher (Chris Volstad) plunked Morgan in the ribs as a symbol of the teams feelings about Morgans actions the night before (Hayes ended up with a shoulder injury). Morgan then stole 2nd and 3rd and scored on a sac fly. The next time Morgan came up, the pitcher threw BEHIND Morgan and Morgan went out to the mound, wanting a piece of Volstad. Morgen threw a punch that barely grazed Volstad, before Gabby Sanchez knocked him down with somewhat of a semi clothes-line to Morgan. Morgan baited the crowd afterwards and is likely to be suspended more for that than the fight. I would guess that Volstad might get a game or two off too.

Author:	Frank Coztansa [ Thu Sep 02, 2010 10:17 am ]
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A negro ballplayer getting suspended is no doubt right up your alley.

Author:	Elmhurst Steve [ Thu Sep 02, 2010 10:21 am ]
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Frank Coztansa wrote: A negro ballplayer getting suspended is no doubt right up your alley. Volstad is white and Morgan is black. I expect both will be suspended as stated in the original post in this thread. Try again..

Author:	Krazy Ivan [ Thu Sep 02, 2010 10:22 am ]
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Elmhurst Steve wrote: Frank Coztansa wrote: A negro ballplayer getting suspended is no doubt right up your alley. Volstad is white and Morgan is black. I expect both will be suspended as stated in the original post in this thread. Try again.. Volstad, for allowing black sweat to touch his person...

Author:	Frank Coztansa [ Thu Sep 02, 2010 10:31 am ]
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Morgan also went in to the "Colored" locker room before the game. Dock him another 20 games.

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Author:	sjboyd0137 [ Thu Sep 02, 2010 11:20 am ]
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I just watched the video on Foxsports.com, and the Fox Sports Florida version of Sarah Kustok is pretty hot.

Author:	Urlacher's missing neck [ Thu Sep 02, 2010 11:21 am ]
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Elmhurst Steve wrote: Great stuff. Not the usual Baseball fight. This one was pretty good. Nyjer Morgan bowled over the Marlins catcher (Brett hayes) the night before, so the pitcher (Chris Volstad) plunked Morgan in the ribs as a symbol of the teams feelings about Morgans actions the night before (Hayes ended up with a shoulder injury). Morgan then stole 2nd and 3rd and scored on a sac fly. The next time Morgan came up, the pitcher threw BEHIND Morgan and Morgan went out to the mound, wanting a piece of Volstad. Morgen threw a punch that barely grazed Volstad, before Gabby Sanchez knocked him down with somewhat of a semi clothes-line to Morgan. Morgan baited the crowd afterwards and is likely to be suspended more for that than the fight. I would guess that Volstad might get a game or two off too. You should call in today and say his name 10 times in a row as fast as you can.

Author:	Northside_Dan [ Thu Sep 02, 2010 11:32 am ]
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sjboyd0137 wrote: I just watched the video on Foxsports.com, and the Fox Sports Florida version of Sarah Kustok is pretty hot.

Author:	Phil McCracken [ Thu Sep 02, 2010 11:35 am ]
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Northside_Dan wrote: sjboyd0137 wrote: I just watched the video on Foxsports.com, and the Fox Sports Florida version of Sarah Kustok is pretty hot. That's a 6 head

Author:	Douchebag [ Thu Sep 02, 2010 11:36 am ]
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Northside_Dan wrote: sjboyd0137 wrote: I just watched the video on Foxsports.com, and the Fox Sports Florida version of Sarah Kustok is pretty hot.

Author:	badrogue17 [ Thu Sep 02, 2010 11:51 am ]
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Volstad should get the larger suspension. You want to plunk the guy to protect yours, fine. Morgan took his base and that shouldve ended it. You then get pissed off that he steals 2 bases on you after you just hit him and throw at him again next time up? sorry thats bush league shit, shouldve just been happy you evened the score the first time.

Author:	Krazy Ivan [ Thu Sep 02, 2010 11:57 am ]
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They should get the same amount...

Author:	Don Tiny [ Thu Sep 02, 2010 12:16 pm ]
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Krazy Ivan wrote: They should get the same amount... Negative; Morgan is a serial asshat and should get a heavier fine at the least, if not more games on top of the "typical" suspension.

Author:	Krazy Ivan [ Thu Sep 02, 2010 12:18 pm ]
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Don Tiny wrote: Krazy Ivan wrote: They should get the same amount... Negative; Morgan is a serial asshat and should get a heavier fine at the least, if not more games on top of the "typical" suspension. Granted, he's a goof. But you can't just keep throwing at a guy. That shit can get dangerous...

Author:	Urlacher's missing neck [ Thu Sep 02, 2010 12:49 pm ]
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Doesn't morgan have a 7 gamer coming as well for throwing a ball at a fan, or did he already serve that? I have no problem with the hit on the catcher and that seems to be what started this chain of events. Don't stand in the baseline in front of the plate if you don't want to get hit. He didn't violate an unwritten rule there, its just hard baseball. I need to know more about the stolen bases to judge that situation. It was the 4th inning and the rule of thumb is that regardless of the lead everything is game until the 5th or 6th inning. What I need to know is whether or not he was being held on. If one manager tells his players to hold the runner regardless of the score, then its generally accepted that its fair game to steal bases. If he isn't being held then that is the indication stealing is no longer cool.

Author:	Ungotz [ Thu Sep 02, 2010 1:59 pm ]
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I would take the Morgan kid on my team any day of the week. Playing for the Nats, he is probably tired of getting slapped around for 162 games. It shows some "fire" at least. Imagine if he played for the Cub all year........ he might pull out an assault rifle.

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Author:	badrogue17 [ Thu Sep 02, 2010 12:40 pm ]
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Don Tiny wrote: Krazy Ivan wrote: They should get the same amount... Negative; Morgan is a serial asshat and should get a heavier fine at the least, if not more games on top of the "typical" suspension. So he's beaned once and then thrown at again, and HE warrants a heavier fine? C'mon DT, no matter how big an asshat Morgan is, Volstad is the clear instigator in this case.

Author:	Free Ajent [ Thu Sep 02, 2010 12:44 pm ]
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Sanchez close lining Morgan was the best part of it. I agree that you can't keep throwing at a guy, it should have been over after he hit him the first time. Also it's the big leagues, if you don't like him stealing a base down by that much than do a better job of throwing him out.

Author:	mike the tuba player [ Thu Sep 02, 2010 12:51 pm ]
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I dont get why they were so upset about a guy stealing 2 bases while down by 11. Who cares? Let him steal home also. If Washington was up by 11 runs and Morgan was hit twice on purpose, then he still can steal the bases also. If you are going to intentionally hit the same guy twice in one game, then all of these BS "unwritten rules" go out the window. If you want to embarass Nyjer Morgan, strike him out 4 times. That was a cool clothesline by Gaby Sanchez.

Author:	Don Tiny [ Thu Sep 02, 2010 1:46 pm ]
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badrogue17 wrote: Don Tiny wrote: Krazy Ivan wrote: They should get the same amount... Negative; Morgan is a serial asshat and should get a heavier fine at the least, if not more games on top of the "typical" suspension. So he's beaned once and then thrown at again, and HE warrants a heavier fine? C'mon DT, no matter how big an asshat Morgan is, Volstad is the clear instigator in this case. It goes beyond this game; Urlacher pointed out the 7-games he's got coming (on appeal, btw) not to mention blasting two different catchers for absolutely no reason whatsoever with one of them subsequently being knocked-out for the rest of the season. Also, the reason you don't steal bases that early down that much is because your run doesn't matter ... that is, you need a whole hell of a lot more than just that one run, so if they're going to manufacture a comeback, he'll get around the bases just fine w/out stealing. That said, I wouldn't bristle at stealing second, but when he goes to third, then he's back to being selfish asshat. Anyway, MLB has a track record of tacking on more games for repeat offenders, irrespective of who was the instigator. Riggleman's too nice a guy to publicly hang his guy unless it's so egregious that you're essentially forced to speak negatively (like when he blasted the Cardinals catcher), but I'd bet top dollar that Riggleman thinks the little bastard is probably more trouble than he's worth at the moment.

Author:	SHARK [ Thu Sep 02, 2010 2:13 pm ]
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Najer Morgan is an absolute punk for what he did last night with his Nationals getting clobbered by the Marlins at the time of the bench-clearing brawl. He's already appealing a 7-game suspension for a confrontation with a fan at Nationals Park. If MLB had a real "Commissioner" instead of an idiot named Allan H. Selig, Morgan's ass would be done for the rest of the season! It was absolutely despicable!

Author:	badrogue17 [ Thu Sep 02, 2010 2:56 pm ]
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SHARK wrote: Najer Morgan is an absolute punk for what he did last night with his Nationals getting clobbered by the Marlins at the time of the bench-clearing brawl. He's already appealing a 7-game suspension for a confrontation with a fan at Nationals Park. If MLB had a real "Commissioner" instead of an idiot named Allan H. Selig, Morgan's ass would be done for the rest of the season! It was absolutely despicable! Yeah you're probably right. How dare he charge the mound after having a pitch thrown behind him after already being hit once earlier on. What a hothead.

Author:	rogers park bryan [ Thu Sep 02, 2010 2:59 pm ]
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SHARK wrote: Najer Morgan is an absolute punk for what he did last night with his Nationals getting clobbered by the Marlins at the time of the bench-clearing brawl. He's already appealing a 7-game suspension for a confrontation with a fan at Nationals Park. If MLB had a real "Commissioner" instead of an idiot named Allan H. Selig, Morgan's ass would be done for the rest of the season! It was absolutely despicable! NYJER Morgan, thats his name folks!

Author:	Don Tiny [ Thu Sep 02, 2010 3:44 pm ]
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Nyjer, please ....

Author:	Douchebag [ Thu Sep 02, 2010 3:44 pm ]
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Don Tiny wrote: Nyjer, please ....

Author:	KDdidit [ Thu Sep 02, 2010 4:11 pm ]
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SHARK wrote: Najer Morgan is an absolute punk for what he did last night with his Nationals getting clobbered by the Marlins at the time of the bench-clearing brawl. He's already appealing a 7-game suspension for a confrontation with a fan at Nationals Park. If MLB had a real "Commissioner" instead of an idiot named Allan H. Selig, Morgan's ass would be done for the rest of the season! It was absolutely despicable! Yeah, what the hell did he do yesterday to be a punk? It's ok to get thrown at twice by a little bitch like the Marlins pitcher but to charge the mound when you know more than likely you're going to get the worst of it because the other teams infielders are going to get there before your bench and jack you up is bad? Plus the throwing into the stands story isn't as cut and dried as you seem to think it is. You can pin one of the two catcher collisions as a punk move, but I'll play the card and say if Eckstein, Biggio, or Rowand did the same things it would called gritty and an example of fire and the passion, but if Nyjer Morgan does it he's a punk.

Author:	Elmhurst Steve [ Fri Sep 03, 2010 9:52 am ]
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KDdidit wrote: SHARK wrote: Najer Morgan is an absolute punk for what he did last night with his Nationals getting clobbered by the Marlins at the time of the bench-clearing brawl. He's already appealing a 7-game suspension for a confrontation with a fan at Nationals Park. If MLB had a real "Commissioner" instead of an idiot named Allan H. Selig, Morgan's ass would be done for the rest of the season! It was absolutely despicable! Yeah, what the hell did he do yesterday to be a punk? It's ok to get thrown at twice by a little bitch like the Marlins pitcher but to charge the mound when you know more than likely you're going to get the worst of it because the other teams infielders are going to get there before your bench and jack you up is bad? Plus the throwing into the stands story isn't as cut and dried as you seem to think it is. You can pin one of the two catcher collisions as a punk move, but I'll play the card and say if Eckstein, Biggio, or Rowand did the same things it would called gritty and an example of fire and the passion, but if Nyjer Morgan does it he's a punk. Little Bitch??? Volstad is 6 foot 7. Do you even know who he is? Plus, Volstad stood in front of the mound with his hands at his sides as Nyjer ran out towards the mound, so it's not like he was trying to run away from Morgan. To the main point...Morgan is an moron. The Pirates had had enough of him and let him go, because he seems to have graduated from the Milton Bradley school of manners/behavior as class Valedictorian. He is a totally selfish player. A team down more than 5-6 runs will generally not try stealing bases, because the risk is not worth the reward. You need lots of runs, not just 1 and taking the chance at being thrown out is not smart. But he did it anyway, because he doesn't care about his teammates or his team. Morgan only cares about whats important to him. Then he charges the mound, even though the pitch missed him by 2 feet. You have to know that charging the mound will result in a suspension, but he doesn't consider for a moment how that might affect his team. He's just an idiot. It should have been over after Volstad hit Morgan, but when Morgan decided to steal the bases, it was basically a F.U. to the Marlins and it escalated things. Morgan deserved to be drilled. He injured the Marlins catcher on a play at home where he crashed into the catcher, even though he could have and SHOULD have slid instead. If he slides, he's probably safe. But he went in like a linebacker and seemed bent on trying to hit the catcher as hard as he could (and was out). The catcher has a shoulder injury now and it was the pitchers obligation to stand up for his catcher and exact some punishment. I'll bet some of Nyjers teammates would like to do the same to him. Firing a ball at a fan in the stands and also plowing over Cardinals catcher Byran Anderson (cheap shot) had to have the commissioner concerned already about this loose cannon. I think this puts it over the top and Morgan gets some time off. Volstad did nothing wrong. He was standing up for his teammate.