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| Author: | Ugueth Will Shiv You [ Thu Sep 23, 2010 2:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Ichiro |
10 straight seasons with 200+ hits. His Hall of Fame bust is already gathering dust. Has there ever been such a gap between the greatness of a player and crappiness of his team? |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Thu Sep 23, 2010 2:35 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ichiro |
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| Author: | sjboyd0137 [ Thu Sep 23, 2010 2:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ichiro |
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| Author: | Ugueth Will Shiv You [ Thu Sep 23, 2010 2:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ichiro |
Kordell looks like he is literally dying in that photo. |
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| Author: | Mr. Hernandez [ Thu Sep 23, 2010 2:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ichiro |
Not only one of the best hitters of all time but also played Clemente level right field. Just a great all round athlete and player |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Thu Sep 23, 2010 2:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ichiro |
Mr. Hernandez wrote: Not only one of the best hitters of all time but also played Clemente level right field. Just a great all round athlete and player Clemente is overrated. Ichiro is better than him. |
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| Author: | SHARK [ Thu Sep 23, 2010 2:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ichiro |
It's a shame Ichiro's stuck on a really bad Mariners' team. They can get a great deal of talent in return if Seattle ever decided to trade #51. There's a certain team that can use Ichiro to upgrade their right field position... |
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| Author: | Mr. Hernandez [ Thu Sep 23, 2010 2:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ichiro |
rogers park bryan wrote: Mr. Hernandez wrote: Not only one of the best hitters of all time but also played Clemente level right field. Just a great all round athlete and player Clemente is overrated. Ichiro is better than him. Mutherfucker I will kidnap one of your mults and send you a finger for everday I don't get an apology for that insult 
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Thu Sep 23, 2010 2:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ichiro |
Mr. Hernandez wrote: rogers park bryan wrote: Clemente is overrated. Ichiro is better than him. Mutherfucker I will kidnap one of your mults and send you a finger for everday I don't get an apology for that insult Ill be answering with my JORR mult |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Thu Sep 23, 2010 2:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ichiro |
He might be the best all around player to have never played in a World Series. |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Thu Sep 23, 2010 2:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ichiro |
Frank Coztansa wrote: He might be the best all around player to have never played in a World Series. Who? |
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| Author: | Douchebag [ Thu Sep 23, 2010 2:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ichiro |
rogers park bryan wrote: Frank Coztansa wrote: He might be the best all around player to have never played in a World Series. Who? 
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Thu Sep 23, 2010 2:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ichiro |
rogers park bryan wrote: Frank Coztansa wrote: He might be the best all around player to have never played in a World Series. Who? Ichiro. Defense, cannon for an arm, speed, thousands of hits... |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Thu Sep 23, 2010 3:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ichiro |
Frank Coztansa wrote: Defense, cannon for an arm, speed, thousands of hits... I thought you were talking about Clemente. You have Ichiro ahead of Frank Thomas? |
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| Author: | Keyser Soze [ Thu Sep 23, 2010 6:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ichiro |
Ichiro's OPS is only .756. He's bad at baseball. |
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| Author: | newper [ Thu Sep 23, 2010 11:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ichiro |
If Ichiro is in the National League he never wins Rookie Of The Year. |
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| Author: | Elmhurst Steve [ Sat Sep 25, 2010 12:49 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ichiro |
Ichiro is one of the best ballplayers of his era. He will surely be a 1st ballot Hall of famer. It's just too bad he did not play in N.Y. Boston, Chicago or L.A. where he would have gotten a lot more notoriety. The thing is, he could have stolen many more bases had he wanted to, but he only stole a base, if it was a situation that called for it. he didn't steal bases, just to put up great stats. He could bunt and do all the little things you see so many players fail to do well, if at all. |
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| Author: | sjboyd0137 [ Sat Sep 25, 2010 12:51 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ichiro |
Elmhurst Steve wrote: Ichiro is one of the best ballplayers of his era. He will surely be a 1st ballot Hall of famer. It's just too bad he did not play in N.Y. Boston, Chicago or L.A. where he would have gotten a lot more notoriety. The thing is, he could have stolen many more bases had he wanted to, but he only stole a base, if it was a situation that called for it. he didn't steal bases, just to put up great stats. He could bunt and do all the little things you see so many players fail to do well, if at all. Watching him play, I think he may easily be the smartest player I have ever seen. |
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| Author: | Urlacher's missing neck [ Sat Sep 25, 2010 12:54 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ichiro |
Elmhurst Steve wrote: Ichiro is one of the best ballplayers of his era. He will surely be a 1st ballot Hall of famer. It's just too bad he did not play in N.Y. Boston, Chicago or L.A. where he would have gotten a lot more notoriety. The thing is, he could have stolen many more bases had he wanted to, but he only stole a base, if it was a situation that called for it. he didn't steal bases, just to put up great stats. He could bunt and do all the little things you see so many players fail to do well, if at all. So this is less of a praise to Ichiro and more of a shot at Nyjer Morgan. |
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| Author: | Colonel Angus [ Sat Sep 25, 2010 1:02 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ichiro |
rogers park bryan wrote: Frank Coztansa wrote: Defense, cannon for an arm, speed, thousands of hits... I thought you were talking about Clemente. You have Ichiro ahead of Frank Thomas? Wasn't Frank w/ the Sux in '05? |
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| Author: | Elmhurst Steve [ Sat Sep 25, 2010 11:22 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ichiro |
Urlacher's missing neck wrote: Elmhurst Steve wrote: Ichiro is one of the best ballplayers of his era. He will surely be a 1st ballot Hall of famer. It's just too bad he did not play in N.Y. Boston, Chicago or L.A. where he would have gotten a lot more notoriety. The thing is, he could have stolen many more bases had he wanted to, but he only stole a base, if it was a situation that called for it. he didn't steal bases, just to put up great stats. He could bunt and do all the little things you see so many players fail to do well, if at all. So this is less of a praise to Ichiro and more of a shot at Nyjer Morgan. No....wrong. It is indeed praise for Ichiro. Was there a mention of Nyjer Morgan??? No. If you want to take a shot at Morgan, go ahead, but do it yourself and stop projecting things in my posts that are not there. There are many players that steal bases looking to fatten up their personal stats to get a better salary and not just do it in the right situations so as to help their team. Their priorities are messed up. Ichiro is a very smart player, so he steals a base when the situation calls for a stolen base, bunts when he should, hits behind runners, throws to the right base...etc. The post was nothing but praise for ichiro and the fact that he does many things well that lots of players don't do well, if at all. |
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| Author: | Ugueth Will Shiv You [ Tue Sep 28, 2010 2:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ichiro |
newper wrote: If Ichiro is in the National League he never wins Rookie Of The Year. Stop it. |
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| Author: | spanky [ Tue Sep 28, 2010 2:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ichiro |
Colonel Angus wrote: Wasn't Frank w/ the Sux in '05? Yes, sort of. Ichiro is a better "all-around" player than Thomas (I assume that was Frank's original point). |
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| Author: | trickybeck [ Sun Oct 10, 2010 10:38 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ichiro |
Ken Griffey Jr. |
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| Author: | Rod [ Sun Oct 10, 2010 10:59 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ichiro |
spanky wrote: Yes, sort of. Ichiro is a better "all-around" player than Thomas (I assume that was Frank's original point). But hitting is so much more valuable than defense that saying Ichiro is better than Frank at all is silly. Would you say Jimmy Piersall was a better all-around player than Ted Williams? |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Sun Oct 10, 2010 8:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ichiro |
Frank Thomas is the rare exception because his hitting was so good, that it erased his bad defense alltogether. Obviously Frank was the better hitter, but I don't think I can name anybody (Ted Williams?) else who was better all around but never played in a World Series. |
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| Author: | stoneroses86 [ Sun Oct 10, 2010 8:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ichiro |
Frank Coztansa wrote: I don't think I can name anybody (Ted Williams?) else who was better all around but never played in a World Series. Teddy Ballgame had a poor (.200 batting average, 1 run batted in) World Series against the Cardinals in 1946. |
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| Author: | Rod [ Sun Oct 10, 2010 10:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ichiro |
Don Mattingly |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Mon Oct 11, 2010 8:32 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ichiro |
Colonel Angus wrote: rogers park bryan wrote: I thought you were talking about Clemente. You have Ichiro ahead of Frank Thomas? Wasn't Frank w/ the Sux in '05? Frank Coztansa wrote: He might be the best all around player to have never played in a World Series.
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Mon Oct 11, 2010 8:41 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ichiro |
Yeah. Frank played a little bit in '05 but was done by mid June. Even Shingo Takatsu got a ring in '05 |
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