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Wow dude. Even a hot gun doesn't explain 105.

Aroldis Chapman Reds 2010 105
Joel Zumaya Tigers 2006 104.8
Aroldis Chapman Reds 2010 104
Mark Wohlers Braves 1995 103
Armando Benitez Giants 2002 102
Jonathan Broxton Dodgers 2009 102
Neftali Feliz Rangers 2010 102
Bobby Jenks White Sox 2005 102
Randy Johnson Diamondbacks 2004 102
Matt Lindstrom Marlins 2007 102
Robb Nen Marlins 1997 102
Justin Verlander Tigers 2007 102

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Berntein can hit it.

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Well this pitch was inside for ball 2. Bernstein would have crapped himself if he saw that coming inside.
Actual poo.

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What about John Moschitta for FedEx?

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And the dude can deliver a sandwich too.

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Thats serious cheese. Remember the artical in Sports Illustrated about (April fools joke) the pitcher that threw something like 105?? Now it's actually true. Hope to see him at Wrigley next summer. Thats the kinda guy you want tickets up the 1st base side, right by the wall, so you can watch him warm up in the bullpen and really get an idea of just how fast the pitches look coming in.

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I remember when Verlander hit 102 was like OMG now guys are up to 105 which must be frightening to hitters. Anyone in baseball with a swing quick enough to put some solid wood on that? A prime Bonds had the quickest swing I've ever seen. I wonder how that matchup would have gone?

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Where's Nolan Ryan. I seem to recall him hitting 104.

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I don't know about that, but I do recall (gleefully, I might add) him hitting 23 a few times.

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Ryan was documented in Guiness Book at 100.9.

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^ this was the most amazing part of the story for me - damn, this kid's the real deal. That is, until Dusty overuses him to the point of Aroldis' arm falling off.

Ryan's prime was a bit before my time, but his wiki page says he regularly hit 100.
The list I C&P'd however, held the low bar at 102.

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I think at least 8 to 10 of the names on that list were on the juice or some sort of HGH type suppliment

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Before they had radar guns, they tried measuring the speed of pitches, by having a pitcher release his pitch, just as a motorcycle was travelling in the same direction as the ball, was passing by. Bob Feller was "timed this way many years ago and it showed he went something like 95 MPH.

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"Padres officials said the stadium radar gun is not known for inordinately high readings, unlike the Fox TV gun that recorded Zumaya at 104.8. Chapman had three other pitches Friday clocked at 104 mph."

That's interesting. The "Fox TV gun" that Zumaya registered a 104.8 (which, I believe would register as 105 on a standard radar gun) isn't really Fox TV's but it's actually MLB's almost completely rolled out (completely rolled out now that is, in development back then) in-ballpark balls/strikes/pitch speed/break/etc system (which uses cameras and software to evaluate pitches). QuesTec or Zone Evaluation maybe?

Anyhow, the Reds would do well to look at Detroit's experience with Zumaya (DL list every season since his rook year) and either convert Chapman to a starter or at least have him develop a better change up and a breaking pitch and then dial down the heat to under triple digits (breaking 100 mph when needed). Verlander gets hitters out as often on his hook and change as he does on straight heat.

I think the regular routine of a starter--pitch every 5th game, throw approx the same number of pitches each outing, have a set warm up and cool down routine--helps starters avoid the sort of acute injuries that set up men in particular seem to suffer. As a set up guy in the bullpen, you're called on to pitch at random times and to throw anywhere from 3 to 30+ pitches per appearance. And sometimes you get up, get warm and then don't even get the call to pitch in the game. And so your manager assumes that you're golden to pitch the next night.

The California Angels converting Nolan Ryan to a starter made Nolan Ryan's career. Had they continued to (ab)use him as a bullpen guy as the Mets did, he'd have left baseball before long before his time.

As it turned out:

"Ryan finished his career with an all-time major league record of having played in 27 seasons. He was the final active player from the 1960s to retire from Major League Baseball, outlasting Carlton Fisk (the final active position player) by three months."

There is a school of thought that right around 100 is the max that the construction of a human arm can support. Ryan is still the fastest guy ever clocked scientifically at 100.9. Who knows what might show up on a gun when baseball is trying to promote itself or a pitcher.

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Sounds pretty accurate.

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What is "clocked scientifically"?

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Seems like it would be a lot easier to have a guy on a horse with a stopwatch.

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It seems to me that MLB could just take a clip of any pitch delivered and measure the time from when it left the pitchers hand, to the time it crossed home plate and determine pretty accurately the exact speed of the pitch (time X distance=velocity). Of course, this would only be done after they could look at the film, but it still could be determined pretty accurately, who has thrown the ball the fastest.

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It depends on which radar gun they use. The JUGS gun is the "fast" gun, which meaures the balls speed when it is released from the pitchers hand. Ra-guns show slower speeds, because this radar gun measures the speed of the ball when it is at the batter.

I think these pitch speeds are all bullshit. Chicks dig the fastball? This has Pud Selig written all over it.

It would require high speed cams.
24fps aint' fast enough. But that could work.

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Also you have the problem of measuring the exact distance from the pitcher's release to the glove. The result would be the average velocity across the distance. Radar guns measure an instant speed.

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Correct, although I doubt a pitch loses much speed over 60 feet. The fps has got to be pretty close between leaving the pitchers hand and arriving at the plate.
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Probably, but when you're talking tenths of an mph, it matters.

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