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| Author: | Drop In [ Thu Apr 21, 2011 6:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Prince Fielder the Future Free Agent |
The Brewers locking up Ryan Braun tells me Fielder is going to leave. He's about to turn 27, and enter some prime hitting years. He's looking for Texiera money. Then again, so am I. It doesn't mean either of us are going to get it. He'll probably get a nine year deal, around twenty per year. I'm really torn here. This dude is pushing three bills now. If he gets that contract, does he end up at three fitty by 29? He smells of some really bad paper. Your thoughts? |
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| Author: | Keyser Soze [ Thu Apr 21, 2011 6:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Prince Fielder the Future Free Agent |
A national league team would be crazy to sign him to a 7 year or longer deal. |
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| Author: | Don Tiny [ Thu Apr 21, 2011 6:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Prince Fielder the Future Free Agent |
I just don't get all gushy over the idea of Fielder as a free agent .... as you say, I am really wary of handing that fella bad paper. If he could produce like Texiera, that'd be one thing, but he doesn't and he won't; maybe it's a product of playing on those Brewers teams of the past, but he seems a little mentally fragile and gives me the impression of being a little flaky off the field. If we were a corner-infielder away from contending, fine. But to sign the guy just to sign him and say "come on out and see Prince play for the Cubs", .... m'eh. |
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| Author: | Darkside [ Thu Apr 21, 2011 6:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Prince Fielder the Future Free Agent |
He's out of the NL. Got DH written all over him. |
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| Author: | 312player [ Thu Apr 21, 2011 8:03 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Prince Fielder the Future Free Agent |
sign the man, first baseman don't need to be fit and trim..the guy produces EVERY year..and he may want 7 years..i am guessing he will end up getting 5 years 100 mill..he is good for 40 hr and 100 plus rbi every year..not great with the glove but his bat makes up for it. |
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| Author: | Don Tiny [ Thu Apr 21, 2011 9:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Prince Fielder the Future Free Agent |
312player wrote: sign the man, first baseman don't need to be fit and trim..the guy produces EVERY year..and he may want 7 years..i am guessing he will end up getting 5 years 100 mill..he is good for 40 hr and 100 plus rbi every year..not great with the glove but his bat makes up for it. No, he's not; not on his own anyway .... if he's got a lineup, probably. |
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| Author: | jimmypasta [ Thu Apr 21, 2011 9:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Prince Fielder the Future Free Agent |
There is no way the Cubs should pursue this guy. I rather they get a couple of veteran 1st Basemen for about 2.5 mil each and sign them for a year or two until they develop their own. The Cubs don't need another guy who might be on the way down the mountain for millions of dollars. Enough of that stuff. |
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| Author: | Hawg Ass [ Fri Apr 22, 2011 7:05 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Prince Fielder the Future Free Agent |
312player wrote: sign the man, first baseman don't need to be fit and trim..the guy produces EVERY year..and he may want 7 years..i am guessing he will end up getting 5 years 100 mill..he is good for 40 hr and 100 plus rbi every year..not great with the glove but his bat makes up for it. He also already turned down 5 for 100 from the Brewers, he is thinking a lot more than that. |
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| Author: | 312player [ Fri Apr 22, 2011 7:10 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Prince Fielder the Future Free Agent |
hmm did not know that he turned down 5/100, i would not give him any more $/years than that. |
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| Author: | bigfan [ Fri Apr 22, 2011 9:43 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Prince Fielder the Future Free Agent |
Wait until the other offers come in and he is pissed off, then make a reasonable 3 year deal. |
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| Author: | Douchebag [ Fri Apr 22, 2011 9:44 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Prince Fielder the Future Free Agent |
bigfan wrote: Wait until the other offers come in and he is pissed off, then make a reasonable 3 year deal. You would probably be a worse GM than Hendry. |
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| Author: | bigfan [ Fri Apr 22, 2011 10:34 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Prince Fielder the Future Free Agent |
Douchebag wrote: bigfan wrote: Wait until the other offers come in and he is pissed off, then make a reasonable 3 year deal. You would probably be a worse GM than Hendry. As oppossed to Jim Hendry running out and signing everyone he can. Would love to see Jim Hendry get "CORRECT VALUE" on a player finally! and I think waiting can get you that correct value. if a AL team takes him as DH and signs him for big money for more than 5 years, they can have him. Maybe Mr Douchebag can explain why my reasoning is so bad and he has some superior inside knowledge? |
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| Author: | 312player [ Fri Apr 22, 2011 10:35 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Prince Fielder the Future Free Agent |
i don't see any team in either league giving the prince more than 5 years, the big spenders, the big spenders like boston/ny will not be interested. |
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| Author: | spmack [ Fri Apr 22, 2011 10:36 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Prince Fielder the Future Free Agent |
I'll take him...for you stat geeks, right now he's 6th in WAR. |
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| Author: | 312player [ Fri Apr 22, 2011 10:40 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Prince Fielder the Future Free Agent |
the guy produces..in wrigley he is good for 40 hr/115 rbi..bat 280 and obp close to 390.. and he is a lefty |
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| Author: | bigfan [ Fri Apr 22, 2011 10:45 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Prince Fielder the Future Free Agent |
Nobody questions his production. How much longer does he produce? 3 years, $40 mill + 1 year option for $16 Mill + Bonuses for HR's and RBI's when he gets to 32 and 300 pounds, issues might arise. |
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| Author: | 312player [ Fri Apr 22, 2011 10:48 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Prince Fielder the Future Free Agent |
i can't see him getting anything less than 5/100..and i think a few teams would take him at that price and a 5 year risk.. |
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| Author: | Hawg Ass [ Fri Apr 22, 2011 10:49 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Prince Fielder the Future Free Agent |
Scott Boras' is laughing at you Big Fan. There will be teams that will offer him long term money. As a Brewers fan, I am glad he turned down that contract. I think he will be fine at 1st base for another 3 years, but I don't know much more than that. All it takes is 1 team and I am sure Boras will find it. |
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| Author: | spmack [ Fri Apr 22, 2011 10:51 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Prince Fielder the Future Free Agent |
312player wrote: i can't see him getting anything less than 5/100..and i think a few teams would take him at that price and a 5 year risk.. Risk? WTF? The guy has played in 157, 158, 159, 162, and 161 games over the past 5 season, and has 190 HRS over that span.....I'll take that risk..... |
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| Author: | 312player [ Fri Apr 22, 2011 10:59 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Prince Fielder the Future Free Agent |
i hear ya, and concur .. but it i would not give him 7 years.. i would not give any player in the league 7 years.. a 7 year 150 million dollar deal could cripple a franchise..and he is like 5 foot ten..265.. could end up looking like his old man at the end of his career |
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| Author: | Douchebag [ Fri Apr 22, 2011 11:20 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Prince Fielder the Future Free Agent |
bigfan wrote: Douchebag wrote: bigfan wrote: Wait until the other offers come in and he is pissed off, then make a reasonable 3 year deal. You would probably be a worse GM than Hendry. As oppossed to Jim Hendry running out and signing everyone he can. Would love to see Jim Hendry get "CORRECT VALUE" on a player finally! and I think waiting can get you that correct value. if a AL team takes him as DH and signs him for big money for more than 5 years, they can have him. Maybe Mr Douchebag can explain why my reasoning is so bad and he has some superior inside knowledge? He would never take a 3 year deal. Offering it to him would just be a waste of time. He would probably retire before accepting that kind of deal. I don't think anyone should ever get a 7 year deal, but ridiculously low balling one of the top hitters in the game is not going to net a team any big time free agents. |
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| Author: | Keyser Soze [ Fri Apr 22, 2011 11:22 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Prince Fielder the Future Free Agent |
Toronto just shed the horrible Veron Wells contract and have money to burn. Fielder would fit perfectly in the middle of their lineup and they will easliy go over 3 years to make that happen. The risk to an NL team is that he will be too fat and inflexible to bend down and field a ground ball or pick a throw out of the dirt. It would be different if he has soft hands but he doesn't. He's a bad first baseman at 27 and will be absolutely brutal at 30+. |
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| Author: | Douchebag [ Fri Apr 22, 2011 11:24 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Prince Fielder the Future Free Agent |
Keyser Soze wrote: The risk to an NL team is that he will be too fat and inflexible to bend down and field a ground ball or pick a throw out of the dirt. It would be different if he has soft hands but he doesn't. He's a bad first baseman at 27 and will be absolutely brutal at 30+. In 4 more years the Cubs could just move him to left field. Problem solved. |
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| Author: | bigfan [ Fri Apr 22, 2011 11:28 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Prince Fielder the Future Free Agent |
Douchebag wrote: Keyser Soze wrote: The risk to an NL team is that he will be too fat and inflexible to bend down and field a ground ball or pick a throw out of the dirt. It would be different if he has soft hands but he doesn't. He's a bad first baseman at 27 and will be absolutely brutal at 30+. In 4 more years the Cubs could just move him left field. Problem solved. OH YEAH! That's some fine GM work! The 300 Pound Prince Roaming Left. |
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| Author: | Douchebag [ Fri Apr 22, 2011 11:28 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Prince Fielder the Future Free Agent |
bigfan wrote: Douchebag wrote: Keyser Soze wrote: The risk to an NL team is that he will be too fat and inflexible to bend down and field a ground ball or pick a throw out of the dirt. It would be different if he has soft hands but he doesn't. He's a bad first baseman at 27 and will be absolutely brutal at 30+. In 4 more years the Cubs could just move him left field. Problem solved. OH YEAH! That's some fine GM work! The 300 Pound Prince Roaming Left. Wouldn't be any worse than our current well paid left fielder. |
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| Author: | Phil McCracken [ Fri Apr 22, 2011 11:52 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Prince Fielder the Future Free Agent |
Douchebag wrote: bigfan wrote: Douchebag wrote: In 4 more years the Cubs could just move him left field. Problem solved. OH YEAH! That's some fine GM work! The 300 Pound Prince Roaming Left. Wouldn't be any worse than our current well paid left fielder. Well since Starlin Castro can't possibly play Short Stop why not just put him at 1B as he is obviously the biggest problem going with the Cubs right now |
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| Author: | Keyser Soze [ Fri Apr 22, 2011 12:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Prince Fielder the Future Free Agent |
That's not a bad call but I'm starting to think he projects best at 3B. It's more a reactionary position so he doesn't have to think too much and he could utilize his strong arm much more there than at 1B or 2B. |
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| Author: | Hawg Ass [ Fri Apr 22, 2011 1:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Prince Fielder the Future Free Agent |
I also still believe that Fielder will be a Cub next year, and that will kill us Brewer fans but there is nothing we can do about it. |
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| Author: | Keyser Soze [ Fri Apr 22, 2011 1:03 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Prince Fielder the Future Free Agent |
Dumbass, you can have range at third base with a lot less decision making. |
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| Author: | bigfan [ Fri Apr 22, 2011 1:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Prince Fielder the Future Free Agent |
Keyser Soze wrote: Toronto just shed the horrible Veron Wells contract and have money to burn. Fielder would fit perfectly in the middle of their lineup and they will easliy go over 3 years to make that happen. The risk to an NL team is that he will be too fat and inflexible to bend down and field a ground ball or pick a throw out of the dirt. It would be different if he has soft hands but he doesn't. He's a bad first baseman at 27 and will be absolutely brutal at 30+. Remember though, he is retiring if he doesnt get more than 3 years! Per DB |
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