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Author:  FavreFan [ Sat Dec 10, 2011 8:53 pm ]
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Why does it seem to matter so much more in baseball than football or basketball? (or hockey, I guess). The only thing I could think of is it seems more prevelant in baseball than other sports. But it seems baseball fans go apeshit when someone tests positive compared to fans/coverage of other sports when someone tests positive. It just seems odd to me given that baseball has been much more prone to cheating anyway.

Author:  Terry's Peeps [ Sat Dec 10, 2011 8:58 pm ]
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Baseball considers itself and its history sacred. That's why people seem to have a larger issue with it.

Football players are monsters who no one really cares about.

Author:  FavreFan [ Sat Dec 10, 2011 9:03 pm ]
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Terry's Peeps wrote:
Baseball considers itself and its history sacred. That's why people seem to have a larger issue with it.

That's what I find so funny though. Baseball clearly has a larger, more varied history of cheating than any other sport. In the NBA it's sort of hard to "cheat", so when the Rashard Lewis thing happened I figured itd be big news. But it wasn't, noone cared. But in baseball, with all their juiced balls and spit balls and other slick stuff, they go crazy when someone takes steroids.

Author:  Terry's Peeps [ Sat Dec 10, 2011 9:06 pm ]
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More old white men fans in MLB.

Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Sat Dec 10, 2011 9:28 pm ]
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Its widely assumed aaron rogers juices.

Author:  FavreFan [ Sat Dec 10, 2011 9:53 pm ]
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Frank Coztansa wrote:
Its widely assumed aaron rogers juices.

I thought you were better than that. Stay classy, FC.

Author:  bigfan [ Sat Dec 10, 2011 9:56 pm ]
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FavreFan wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
Its widely assumed aaron rogers juices.

I thought you were better than that. Stay classy, FC.


While I would not be shocked, that the kid who never had a great arm and if you look at his arms, they are not long or muscular, is slinging it like it is shot from the jugs machine.

Yet, I am not sure "widely assumed" is a correct term here.

Author:  FavreFan [ Sat Dec 10, 2011 10:02 pm ]
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bigfan wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
Its widely assumed aaron rogers juices.

I thought you were better than that. Stay classy, FC.


While I would not be shocked, that the kid who never had a great arm and if you look at his arms, they are not long or muscular, is slinging it like it is shot from the jugs machine.

Yet, I am not sure "widely assumed" is a correct term here.

For some reason I figured you'd always see it like I do biggie and that is we should never be shocked by anyone who is found juicing. But the Rodgers comment from Frank was clearly born of petty jealousy. There's as much evidence that Rodgers has juiced as there is Cutler, Urlacher, and Forte.

Author:  Darkside [ Sun Dec 11, 2011 1:38 pm ]
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FavreFan wrote:
For some reason I figured you'd always see it like I do biggie and that is we should never be shocked by anyone who is found juicing. But the Rodgers comment from Frank was clearly born of petty jealousy. There's as much evidence that Rodgers has juiced as there is Cutler, Urlacher, and Forte.

:roll:
Jesus Farvie, really? Take it easy, work on getting a sense of humor will ya? Mercy.

Author:  conns7901 [ Sun Dec 11, 2011 1:41 pm ]
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People pay attention to records in baseball. I'm guessing that is why.

Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Mon Dec 12, 2011 9:43 am ]
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"widely assumed" is absolutely the correct term....in context.

The context was a joke. Certainly I'm jealous of Rogers but the juicing comment was meant solely to get a rise out of you...and it worked. I would think by now you should know that I (with many others) will tend to joke around a lot on here.

On the flip side I (with many others) know that either you can't take a joke at all or have zero sense of humor.

Author:  rogers park bryan [ Mon Dec 12, 2011 9:58 am ]
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FavreFan wrote:
Terry's Peeps wrote:
Baseball considers itself and its history sacred. That's why people seem to have a larger issue with it.

That's what I find so funny though. Baseball clearly has a larger, more varied history of cheating than any other sport. In the NBA it's sort of hard to "cheat", so when the Rashard Lewis thing happened I figured itd be big news. But it wasn't, noone cared. But in baseball, with all their juiced balls and spit balls and other slick stuff, they go crazy when someone takes steroids.

The numbers are sacred and the other hypocritical thing about that, besides the rich history of cheating, is the records should mean less in MLB than anywhere with all the variables (Different dimensions in every stadium, different mound height, etc)


But they do matter.

When I was a kid starting in 87 with Dawson and McGwire every year if someone got out to 15 or 18 by mid may, Id be projecting the totals and wondering if he could break 50 or even 61.

I dont know why. It makes little sense. My excuse is as a cub fan you have to find other things to be interested in when they were mathematically eliminated in mid june.

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