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NSJ, enjoy your time with him. The clock is ticking!!!

Joey Votto and the Reds are close to a long-term contract extension. Votto confirmed a report by mlbtraderumors.com

“I can’t comment till it’s done,” he said. “You’ll have to ask Walt (Jocketty). It’s a gray area. I’ll be much more forthcoming later.”

I don't see how they can give him that contract and have any other pieces. The only way is to really raise the payroll, the Brewers couldn't do it, and I don't see how they can.

Hawg Ass wrote:

I don't see how they can give him that contract and have any other pieces. The only way is to really raise the payroll, the Brewers couldn't do it, and I don't see how they can.

Your probably right about for a least one big piece - the Reds wouldn't be able to afford a long term contract for Brandon Phillips after this year if the Votto deal is $20M+ per year.

Hawg Ass wrote:

I don't see how they can give him that contract and have any other pieces. The only way is to really raise the payroll, the Brewers couldn't do it, and I don't see how they can.

Your probably right about for a least one big piece - the Reds wouldn't be able to afford a long term contract for Brandon Phillips after this year if the Votto deal is $20M+ per year.

Cueto, Bailey, Latos and Marshall are signed for several years. Leake and Bailey won't demand top dollar. They've got some other good role picthers like Ondrusek, Bray and Massett.

Jay Bruce is signed for several years as well and they have rookies at SS and catcher. The plan could work . . . but you can't resign BP. On the flip side he'll turn 32 next season.

Chus wrote:

10 yrs/$225 million.

http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/blog/eye-o ... -extension

The weird part is that it doesn't kick in until his current deal is up. This starts in 2O14. A lot can happen in 2 seasons. Joey is awesome, but this has bad written all over it.

NSJ wrote:

Hawg Ass wrote:

I don't see how they can give him that contract and have any other pieces. The only way is to really raise the payroll, the Brewers couldn't do it, and I don't see how they can.

Your probably right about for a least one big piece - the Reds wouldn't be able to afford a long term contract for Brandon Phillips after this year if the Votto deal is $20M+ per year.

Man, that sucks if that's true.

The Cincinnati Reds have locked up another key offensive player to a long-term contract.

A week after signing first baseman Joey Votto to a massive extension, the Reds agreed to a six-year, $72.5 million contract with second baseman Brandon Phillips, sources told ESPN's Jim Bowden.

Phillips signed a four-year, $27 million deal before the 2008 season that had a $12 million option for 2012. This new contract replaces that one and goes through 2017.

Phillips, who will turn 31 in June, has hit at least 17 home runs in each of the last six seasons. In 2011, he hit a career-best .300 with 18 homers and 82 RBIs.

Serious question NSJ...really not being a dick here.

Now that they've locked up two of their stars, will fans start showing up? Last night's attendance was brutal (less than 20,000 if memory serves)...seems bad for a game with a division rival in the first week of the season.

16,909 attendendance yesterday. 64 deg. at game time..

Author:	Hawg Ass [ Wed Jan 25, 2012 11:36 pm ]
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NSJ, enjoy your time with him. The clock is ticking!!!

Author:	Chris_in_joliet [ Wed Jan 25, 2012 11:38 pm ]
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That came across really gay!!!

Author:	Hawg Ass [ Wed Jan 25, 2012 11:40 pm ]
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Pretty fitting, huh

Author:	NSJ [ Mon Apr 02, 2012 12:48 pm ]
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Hawg Ass wrote: NSJ, enjoy your time with him. The clock is ticking!!! http://cincinnati.com/blogs/reds/2012/0 ... extension/ Quote: Joey Votto and the Reds are close to a long-term contract extension. Votto confirmed a report by mlbtraderumors.com “I can’t comment till it’s done,” he said. “You’ll have to ask Walt (Jocketty). It’s a gray area. I’ll be much more forthcoming later.”

Author:	312player [ Mon Apr 02, 2012 12:51 pm ]
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i don;t think votto is going anywhere..the reds will buck up

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Author:	kujoe_7 [ Mon Apr 02, 2012 1:27 pm ]
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Reds, Joey Votto Nearing Extension By Ben Nicholson-Smith [April 2 at 12:14pm CST] 12:14pm: Votto confirmed to John Fay of the Cincinnati Enquirer that an extension is close. "I can't comment till it's done. You'll have to ask Walt [Jocketty, the GM]. It's a gray area" (Twitter link). 11:40am: Prince Fielder and Albert Pujols won't be the only first basemen to cash in with historic contracts this offseason. Joey Votto and the Reds are nearing an extension that will keep the first baseman in Cincinnati for a long time, MLBTR's Tim Dierkes and Ben Nicholson-Smith have learned. Dan Lozano of Icon Sports Group represents Votto. Terms of the deal are not known, but it wouldn't be surprising if the total contract value surpasses $200MM. Votto will earn a total of $26.5MM through 2013 on the extension he signed last winter. I suggested in January that an additional $161MM could be enough to keep Votto in place long-term. Though not directly related, the Dodgers' sale price of $2.15 billion can't have hurt Votto's leverage. Votto, the 2010 NL MVP, has evolved into one of the game's elite players since debuting in 2007. He followed up his MVP season with a .309/.416/.531 line, 29 homers and 40 doubles. The 28-year-old has been a seven win player each of the past two seasons, according to FanGraphs' version of wins above replacement. Just four deals in MLB history have surpassed the $200MM mark. Prince Fielder, Alex Rodriguez (twice) and fellow Lozano client Albert Pujols make up the select group.

Author:	RFDC [ Mon Apr 02, 2012 1:29 pm ]
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Good let the Reds hamstring themselves with a huge contract. That works.

Author:	Hawg Ass [ Mon Apr 02, 2012 1:51 pm ]
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I don't see how they can give him that contract and have any other pieces. The only way is to really raise the payroll, the Brewers couldn't do it, and I don't see how they can.

Author:	NSJ [ Mon Apr 02, 2012 2:13 pm ]
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Hawg Ass wrote: I don't see how they can give him that contract and have any other pieces. The only way is to really raise the payroll, the Brewers couldn't do it, and I don't see how they can. What contract? kujoe just reposted the quote from Votto I posted above. The rest is just speculation by that author that he wouldn't be surprised if the total contract value is in excess of $200M. Many have speculated as much, but frankly, I would be very surprised if the combined old and new contracts exceed 8 years in length and/or $175 million. I'm sure we will hear something conrete by close of day.

Author:	NSJ [ Mon Apr 02, 2012 2:17 pm ]
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Hawg Ass wrote: I don't see how they can give him that contract and have any other pieces. The only way is to really raise the payroll, the Brewers couldn't do it, and I don't see how they can. Your probably right about for a least one big piece - the Reds wouldn't be able to afford a long term contract for Brandon Phillips after this year if the Votto deal is $20M+ per year.

Author:	rogers park bryan [ Mon Apr 02, 2012 2:20 pm ]
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NSJ wrote: Hawg Ass wrote: I don't see how they can give him that contract and have any other pieces. The only way is to really raise the payroll, the Brewers couldn't do it, and I don't see how they can. Your probably right about for a least one big piece - the Reds wouldn't be able to afford a long term contract for Brandon Phillips after this year if the Votto deal is $20M+ per year. Man, that sucks if that's true.

Author:	Hawg Ass [ Mon Apr 02, 2012 2:20 pm ]
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NSJ wrote: Hawg Ass wrote: I don't see how they can give him that contract and have any other pieces. The only way is to really raise the payroll, the Brewers couldn't do it, and I don't see how they can. Your probably right about for a least one big piece - the Reds wouldn't be able to afford a long term contract for Brandon Phillips after this year if the Votto deal is $20M+ per year. How do they ever afford any pitching? I would love for these type of markets to be able to sign these type of players, but I just can't see where it makes sense when your payroll is around $75 million and you are going to pay 1 guy 20 million of it.

Author:	NSJ [ Mon Apr 02, 2012 2:27 pm ]
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Cueto, Bailey, Latos and Marshall are signed for several years. Leake and Bailey won't demand top dollar. They've got some other good role picthers like Ondrusek, Bray and Massett. Jay Bruce is signed for several years as well and they have rookies at SS and catcher. The plan could work . . . but you can't resign BP. On the flip side he'll turn 32 next season.

Author:	Chus [ Mon Apr 02, 2012 6:52 pm ]
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10 yrs/$225 million. http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/blog/eye-o ... -extension

Author:	sinicalypse [ Tue Apr 03, 2012 1:52 am ]
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man i need some of that scratch... i'm itchin like a motherfucker over here! he seems like a good dude, god bless him!

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Author:	Urlacher's missing neck [ Mon Apr 02, 2012 6:54 pm ]
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Chus wrote: 10 yrs/$225 million. http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/blog/eye-o ... -extension The weird part is that it doesn't kick in until his current deal is up. This starts in 2O14. A lot can happen in 2 seasons. Joey is awesome, but this has bad written all over it.

Author:	Nas [ Mon Apr 02, 2012 6:56 pm ]
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Urlacher's missing neck wrote: Chus wrote: 10 yrs/$225 million. http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/blog/eye-o ... -extension The weird part is that it doesn't kick in until his current deal is up. This starts in 2O14. A lot can happen in 2 seasons. Joey is awesome, but this has bad written all over it. Agreed

Author:	Chus [ Mon Apr 02, 2012 11:08 pm ]
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Joey Votto wrote: I'm rich, beatch.

Author:	cpguy [ Tue Apr 03, 2012 12:39 am ]
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Crazy money. Good luck with that Cincinnati.

Author:	Hawg Ass [ Tue Apr 03, 2012 7:42 am ]
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So am I reading this right, he will make his 22-23 million over the next 2 years and then this deal kicks in. Holy shit, did he rob them blind.

Author:	NSJ [ Tue Apr 10, 2012 1:45 pm ]
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rogers park bryan wrote: NSJ wrote: Hawg Ass wrote: I don't see how they can give him that contract and have any other pieces. The only way is to really raise the payroll, the Brewers couldn't do it, and I don't see how they can. Your probably right about for a least one big piece - the Reds wouldn't be able to afford a long term contract for Brandon Phillips after this year if the Votto deal is $20M+ per year. Man, that sucks if that's true. Looks like I was wrong on Phillips. Quote: The Cincinnati Reds have locked up another key offensive player to a long-term contract. A week after signing first baseman Joey Votto to a massive extension, the Reds agreed to a six-year, $72.5 million contract with second baseman Brandon Phillips, sources told ESPN's Jim Bowden. Phillips signed a four-year, $27 million deal before the 2008 season that had a $12 million option for 2012. This new contract replaces that one and goes through 2017. Phillips, who will turn 31 in June, has hit at least 17 home runs in each of the last six seasons. In 2011, he hit a career-best .300 with 18 homers and 82 RBIs. http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/77962 ... ources-say

Author:	lipidquadcab [ Tue Apr 10, 2012 3:01 pm ]
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Serious question NSJ...really not being a dick here. Now that they've locked up two of their stars, will fans start showing up? Last night's attendance was brutal (less than 20,000 if memory serves)...seems bad for a game with a division rival in the first week of the season.

Author:	NSJ [ Tue Apr 10, 2012 4:00 pm ]
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lipidquadcab wrote: Serious question NSJ...really not being a dick here. Now that they've locked up two of their stars, will fans start showing up? Last night's attendance was brutal (less than 20,000 if memory serves)...seems bad for a game with a division rival in the first week of the season. Attendance is brutal. It's a great park and it's a shame that the numbers have been so low. I go to 10 games a year and always have 2-4 kids with me. I think if they win, the fans will show up, but it's brutal for a team that has legit veterans and emerging stars to have to deal with significant attendance issues.

Author:	Apologist [ Tue Apr 10, 2012 5:06 pm ]
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16,909 attendendance yesterday. 64 deg. at game time..

Author:	NSJ [ Wed Apr 11, 2012 9:48 am ]
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Apologist wrote: 16,909 attendendance yesterday. 64 deg. at game time.. It was 50 degrees with 20 mph winds. I had four layers on gloves and a hat. Still would have like to see more people there.