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| Author: | Northside_Dan [ Fri Mar 02, 2012 2:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | MLB Expanding Playoffs Thread |
Laurence Holmes @LaurenceWHolmes Reply Retweet Favorite · Open RT @mlb_pr: NEWS: 2012 Postseason to feature 10-team format including 2 additional Wild Cards & elimination game in each league prior to DS. Bad. Enough teams already make it. |
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| Author: | sjboyd0137 [ Fri Mar 02, 2012 2:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: MLB Expanding Playoffs Thread |
It's fine The play in games are usually pretty interesting, so I think the 1 game round should be fun. |
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| Author: | NearWessSideHussra [ Fri Mar 02, 2012 2:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: MLB Expanding Playoffs Thread |
doesn't this basically mean the winner of the wild-card play-in game likely goes into the LDS having their #1 or #2 starter unavailable until game 3 or later? |
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| Author: | Ugueth Will Shiv You [ Fri Mar 02, 2012 2:38 pm ] |
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This will just make things look worse when the White Sox and Cubs miss the playoffs again. |
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| Author: | Hank Scorpio [ Fri Mar 02, 2012 2:54 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: MLB Expanding Playoffs Thread |
NearWessSideHussra wrote: doesn't this basically mean the winner of the wild-card play-in game likely goes into the LDS having their #1 or #2 starter unavailable until game 3 or later? This was my first thought as well but usually the teams fighting for a wild card spot dont get the luxury of setting their rotations the way they want to anyway. Be better in the regular season and win your division so this doesn't happen. |
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| Author: | Terry's Peeps [ Fri Mar 02, 2012 6:20 pm ] |
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I'm fine with it. |
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| Author: | Don Tiny [ Fri Mar 02, 2012 6:32 pm ] |
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I'm admitting my irrationality up front as I say that I hate the idea but I have no expressed argument ready to defend that stance other than the damn thing don't need no changing. I would, however, seriously consider trading this new stipulation for the repeal of the awful DH rule. |
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| Author: | good dolphin [ Sat Mar 03, 2012 3:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: MLB Expanding Playoffs Thread |
the format sucks. If you are going to do it, at least make it best of 3. |
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| Author: | Colonel Angus [ Sun Mar 04, 2012 11:12 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: MLB Expanding Playoffs Thread |
good dolphin wrote: the format sucks. If you are going to do it, at least make it best of 3. I think teams that win their divisions will complain about too much downtime. |
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| Author: | Terry's Peeps [ Sun Mar 04, 2012 11:14 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: MLB Expanding Playoffs Thread |
It's the equivalent of the NCAA Tournament play in game. |
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| Author: | Home5licE [ Sun Mar 04, 2012 11:37 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: MLB Expanding Playoffs Thread |
Terry's Peeps wrote: It's the equivalent of the NCAA Tournament play in game. Which is a horrible idea for a league with a 162 game regular season. |
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| Author: | Home5licE [ Sun Mar 04, 2012 9:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: MLB Expanding Playoffs Thread |
First I've heard of this...if true, this only adds another layer of bullshit to this whole thing... http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/breaking/141370643.html Quote: You can love the extra wild-card or loathe it. But no one can defend the format baseball will use this year only. Because the extra playoff games were wedged into an already set postseason schedule, the lowest seed will host the No. 1 seed for the first two games of the division series. The top seed will then be home for Games 3 through 5, as needed.
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| Author: | Colonel Angus [ Sun Mar 04, 2012 9:37 pm ] |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Mon Mar 05, 2012 8:51 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: MLB Expanding Playoffs Thread |
How does this benefit division winners anymore than in previous years? The only benefit I see is one pitcher getting used in the one game playoff but like Hank pointed out, usually wild card teams have to fight to the last day and its like that anyway. I dont hate it, but to say this rewards division winners is a stretch |
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| Author: | Rod [ Mon Mar 05, 2012 8:59 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: MLB Expanding Playoffs Thread |
rogers park bryan wrote: How does this benefit division winners anymore than in previous years? The only benefit I see is one pitcher getting used in the one game playoff but like Hank pointed out, usually wild card teams have to fight to the last day and its like that anyway. I dont hate it, but to say this rewards division winners is a stretch I think it does. An all or nothing game is going to put a team on an emotional peak while the division winners are relaxing. And that's in addition to the burning pitchers component. Just the stress and emotion. I understand Lipid's argument, but I think that horse left the barn long ago when the Wild Card was instituted in the first place. Maybe the thing to do would be to eliminate the divisions and simply have the first six teams in each league qualify for the playoffs with 1 and 2 getting byes into the second round and 3-6 and 4-5 playing a short playoff before facing them. But something like that would be a radical change and I think it would only make sense after a radical realignment. And we still haven't reached a point where the separate identities of the respective leagues has been totally wiped out. Maybe we never will. |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Mon Mar 05, 2012 9:05 am ] |
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: rogers park bryan wrote: How does this benefit division winners anymore than in previous years? The only benefit I see is one pitcher getting used in the one game playoff but like Hank pointed out, usually wild card teams have to fight to the last day and its like that anyway. I dont hate it, but to say this rewards division winners is a stretch I think it does. An all or nothing game is going to put a team on an emotional peak while the division winners are relaxing. And that's in addition to the burning pitchers component. Just the stress and emotion. How often have teams won the wild card or fought for the division down to the last day and won the world series? I think the teams playing in that one game playoff are gonna be on a hot streak Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: I understand Lipid's argument, but I think that horse left the barn long ago when the Wild Card was instituted in the first place. Maybe the thing to do would be to eliminate the divisions and simply have the first six teams in each league qualify for the playoffs with 1 and 2 getting byes into the second round and 3-6 and 4-5 playing a short playoff before facing them. But something like that would be a radical change and I think it would only make sense after a radical realignment. And we still haven't reached a point where the separate identities of the respective leagues has been totally wiped out. Maybe we never will. Yeah thats the only way to truly reward divisioin winners. |
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| Author: | Rod [ Mon Mar 05, 2012 9:14 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: MLB Expanding Playoffs Thread |
rogers park bryan wrote: How often have teams won the wild card or fought for the division down to the last day and won the world series? I don't know. But I do think there's a different emotional component to a game that everyone knows is winner-take-all and is being promoted as such, as opposed to what amounts to an elimination game that occurs in the course of events like a long season or a seven game series. I remember the Sox players remarking about being the only game on the scoreboard during the World Series. They're setting these one game playoffs up to be the focus of the entire baseball world, which is a little different than elimination games of the past when other games or series were occurring simultaneously. World Series game sevens- and possibly LDS game sevens- notably excepted. |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Mon Mar 05, 2012 9:26 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: MLB Expanding Playoffs Thread |
Im gonna look but Id think most wild card winning WS teams were on a hot streak coming in. We'll see, but I wouldnt bet against those wild card winners in the first round. Im definitely interested, but I think they rushed it and it will ultimately be a scheduling clusterfuck due to weather at the end of the year. One more embarrassment for Bud. |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Fri Mar 09, 2012 12:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: MLB Expanding Playoffs Thread |
Wow, this is terrible. So its quite possible a team can win 112 games but have to be on the road the first 2 games of the playoffs if you are playing a team with say 88 wins, and not have homefield advantage in the WS and be against a team that has say 92 wins. How in the fuck does that make sense? |
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| Author: | Northside_Dan [ Fri Mar 09, 2012 12:35 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: MLB Expanding Playoffs Thread |
Frank Coztansa wrote: How in the fuck does that make sense? 
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Fri Mar 09, 2012 12:40 pm ] |
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rogers park bryan wrote: We'll see, but I wouldnt bet against those wild card winners in the first round. One of them is going to get 2 home games to start the series. You'd be a fool to bet against a team that has 2 home games right off.
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| Author: | stoneroses86 [ Fri Mar 09, 2012 1:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: MLB Expanding Playoffs Thread |
Frank Coztansa wrote: Wow, this is terrible. So its quite possible a team can win 112 games but have to be on the road the first 2 games of the playoffs if you are playing a team with say 88 wins, and not have homefield advantage in the WS and be against a team that has say 92 wins. How in the fuck does that make sense? "We believe that home field advantage in the World Series should be entirely determined by the result of an exhibition game in which all teams, no matter how lame and terrible they are, must have at least one (1) representative, no matter how lame that player may be, and in which the majority of the starting, and actually good, players are not even in the game at the end!" Does that answer your question? Impeach Bud Selig! |
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