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| Author: | newper [ Wed Apr 04, 2012 11:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Bobby Valentine - Douchebag of the Season |
I'm just putting this here early since I know we'll use it for more than one week. He names Aceves his closer instead of Melancon. Aceves wants to be a starting pitcher and has been training to do so. Melancon has experience closing. Aceves doesn't even have 2:1 K:BB ratio. Melancon runs about a 5:2. Aceves went 114 innings last year with a 1.1 WHIP. Melancon had a 1.2 WHIP over 72 innings. Unless there's something that shows Aceves can't stretch to the rotation, then this smacks of something that BV is doing just to be different -- not because it makes sense. Honestly, he could learn a lesson from Ozzie. If you want to be known, then be known for your mouth but still do the right thing when it comes to managing the team. The sad thing is that even if this works, are you maybe passing up major benefits with Aceves becoming a starter down the line? I'll hang up and listen for my answer. |
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| Author: | Nas [ Thu Apr 05, 2012 1:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bobby Valentine - Douchebag of the Season |
The job should gave been given to Bard. He was being groomed for it and he appears to be their best option. Not sure if he'll be another CJ Wilson. That usually doesn't happen often. |
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| Author: | Urlacher's missing neck [ Thu Apr 05, 2012 5:56 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bobby Valentine - Douchebag of the Season |
Nas wrote: The job should gave been given to Bard. He was being groomed for it and he appears to be their best option. Not sure if he'll be another CJ Wilson. That usually doesn't happen often. CJ was also a career minor league starter until he had UCL elbow surgery. He started pitching in relief because it was the only opening they had for him. So he was a starter who got forced into relief and then went back to starting. |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Thu Apr 05, 2012 7:02 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bobby Valentine - Douchebag of the Season |
newper wrote: The sad thing is that even if this works, are you maybe passing up major benefits with Aceves becoming a starter down the line? Papelbon? |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Thu Apr 05, 2012 7:34 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bobby Valentine - Douchebag of the Season |
Who gives a shit what the Red Sox do? The are behind the Yanks and Rays for playoff spots, imho. |
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| Author: | jimmypasta [ Thu Apr 05, 2012 8:02 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bobby Valentine - Douchebag of the Season |
This Valentine is taking up the huge "Genius/Asshole" void left by Tony Larussa. |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Thu Apr 05, 2012 8:04 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bobby Valentine - Douchebag of the Season |
Frank Coztansa wrote: Who gives a shit what the Red Sox do? The are behind the Yanks and Rays for playoff spots, imho. Baseball fans? |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Thu Apr 05, 2012 8:06 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bobby Valentine - Douchebag of the Season |
jimmypasta wrote: This Valentine is taking up the huge "Genius/Asshole" void left by Tony Larussa. Uh, no. Valentine is barely over .500 and has never won anything. |
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| Author: | Urlacher's missing neck [ Thu Apr 05, 2012 8:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bobby Valentine - Douchebag of the Season |
rogers park bryan wrote: Frank Coztansa wrote: Who gives a shit what the Red Sox do? The are behind the Yanks and Rays for playoff spots, imho. Baseball fans? or The Score's supposed baseball expert/closet Red Sox homer. |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Thu Apr 05, 2012 8:20 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bobby Valentine - Douchebag of the Season |
rogers park bryan wrote: Frank Coztansa wrote: Who gives a shit what the Red Sox do? The are behind the Yanks and Rays for playoff spots, imho. Baseball fans? |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Thu Apr 05, 2012 8:52 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bobby Valentine - Douchebag of the Season |
Frank Coztansa wrote: rogers park bryan wrote: Frank Coztansa wrote: Who gives a shit what the Red Sox do? The are behind the Yanks and Rays for playoff spots, imho. Baseball fans? Well the Red Sox are a pretty relevant team in the scope of MLB. |
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| Author: | Douchebag [ Thu Apr 05, 2012 9:45 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bobby Valentine - Douchebag of the Season |
rogers park bryan wrote: Frank Coztansa wrote: Who gives a shit what the Red Sox do? The are behind the Yanks and Rays for playoff spots, imho. Baseball fans? I pretty much had my head buried in the sand this baseball offseason. Is Bobby Valentine now the manager of the Red Sox? If so, 
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| Author: | lipidquadcab [ Thu Apr 05, 2012 4:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bobby Valentine - Douchebag of the Season |
Douchebag wrote: rogers park bryan wrote: Frank Coztansa wrote: Who gives a shit what the Red Sox do? The are behind the Yanks and Rays for playoff spots, imho. Baseball fans? I pretty much had my head buried in the sand this baseball offseason. Is Bobby Valentine now the manager of the Red Sox? If so, No, this guy is. 
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| Author: | 24_Guy [ Thu Apr 05, 2012 10:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bobby Valentine - Douchebag of the Season |
He looks like Colonel Flagg from M*A*S*H in that picture. "I have no home. I'm the wind." |
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| Author: | SHARK [ Fri Apr 06, 2012 1:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bobby Valentine - Douchebag of the Season |
The new Red Sox manager is as smarmy as he sounded when he joined Dan Shulman & Orel Hershiser in the MLB/ESPN booth on "Sunday Night Baseball" last year. Bobby Valentine's gonna age about 20 years as this season progresses if games like yesterday in Detroit are any indication. |
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| Author: | Colonel Angus [ Sat Apr 07, 2012 9:57 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bobby Valentine - Douchebag of the Season |
The Sawks won't even sniff the playoffs this year, w/ the Yanks, Rays, Angels & Rangers as possible WC teams. |
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| Author: | newper [ Sat Apr 07, 2012 10:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bobby Valentine - Douchebag of the Season |
Colonel Angus wrote: The Sawks won't even sniff the playoffs this year, w/ the Yanks, Rays, Angels & Rangers as possible WC teams. I think you'll see both the Angels and Rangers in, since that division is so bad otherwise... one will win and the other will get a wild card. I struggle to see anyone but Detroit going through out of the Central -- maybe Kansas City or Cleveland, but that's about a 10% chance -- and I think Yankees take the East, with the Sox vs Rays for the final wildcard spot. I think the Red Sox and Rays have similar chances; I might even give the edge to the Sox, but maybe a 55%/45% type edge. It will probably come down to injuries like it always does. If either the Angels or Rangers go through some injuries, I could see both WCs out of the East even. |
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| Author: | Urlacher's missing neck [ Sat Apr 07, 2012 10:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bobby Valentine - Douchebag of the Season |
Keep an eye on Toronto. |
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| Author: | Terry's Peeps [ Sun Apr 22, 2012 10:12 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bobby Valentine - Douchebag of the Season |
He was booed mercilessly yesterday during the Red Sox collapse. Couldn't happen to a bigger jackass. |
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| Author: | Urlacher's missing neck [ Sun Apr 22, 2012 10:33 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bobby Valentine - Douchebag of the Season |
Terry's Peeps wrote: He was booed mercilessly yesterday during the Red Sox collapse. Couldn't happen to a bigger jackass. I can't believe he is actually making them think about firing his ass already. |
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| Author: | Rod [ Sun Apr 22, 2012 10:51 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bobby Valentine - Douchebag of the Season |
He's angered his whole team, and not in a productive way. I'm starting to doubt he'll make it to the All-Star break. Blow one more 8 run lead to the Yankees and he's probably finished.
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| Author: | Urlacher's missing neck [ Sun Apr 22, 2012 10:52 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bobby Valentine - Douchebag of the Season |
I can not fathom why they hired him in the first place. |
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| Author: | SHARK [ Mon Apr 23, 2012 1:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bobby Valentine - Douchebag of the Season |
Urlacher's missing neck wrote: I can not fathom why they hired him in the first place. UMN, neither do I. The only thing I could figure is the Red Sox management team wanted a marquee name who's not Terry Francona. It's the same Bobby Valentine who accused Cubs' SS Starlin Castro of not being in the game when he & ESPN worked a Cub game at Wrigley last season on "Sunday Night Baseball". |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Tue Aug 14, 2012 4:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bobby Valentine - Douchebag of the Season |
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/bobby-vale ... alez-.html Quote: Boston Red Sox players blasted manager Bobby Valentine to owners John Henry and Larry Lucchino during a heated meeting called after a text message was sent by a group of frustrated players to the team and ownership in late July, three sources familiar with the meeting told Yahoo! Sports.
Issues that have inflamed players range far and wide. Leaving in Lester, a well-respected figure in the clubhouse, to get blasted for 11 runs and four home runs against Toronto soured players already beaten down by Valentine's managerial style. Valentine uttering "Nice inning, kid" to rookie third baseman Will Middlebrooks after he made a defensive blunder – an episode to which Valentine admitted on WEEI radio – only furthered the animus toward the 62-year-old, who is managing in the major leagues for the first time since 2002. Since spring training, players have chafed at Valentine's careless – and occasionally self-serving – interactions with the Boston media |
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| Author: | donspiracy [ Tue Aug 14, 2012 4:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bobby Valentine - Douchebag of the Season |
This story is all bullshit. If they are 5 games in first, nobody cares. When is the last time the Sawks finished fourth or fifth in the AL East. |
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| Author: | Makaveli [ Tue Aug 14, 2012 4:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bobby Valentine - Douchebag of the Season |
He's a major league asshole. I'm not surprised anyone feels this way about him. |
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| Author: | SomeGuy [ Tue Aug 14, 2012 6:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bobby Valentine - Douchebag of the Season |
His team is a bunch of major league douchebags as well, let us not forget that. |
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| Author: | Urlacher's missing neck [ Tue Aug 14, 2012 6:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bobby Valentine - Douchebag of the Season |
SomeGuy wrote: His team is a bunch of major league douchebags as well, let us not forget that. Some of them...absolutely but I can't believe guys like DP and Gonzalez are that bad and I don't think Youk was the guy Valentine portrayed him as. The Big Hoss Redneck hillbilly Texan pitching staff though....i completely agree with them being douches. They should have dumped Beckett before this season. I think Lackey and Lester would have retracted and fallen in line if their ring leader was gone. Great pitcher at times but definitely a juvenile shit stirrer as well. |
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| Author: | Hawg Ass [ Tue Aug 14, 2012 8:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bobby Valentine - Douchebag of the Season |
Makaveli wrote: He's a major league asshole. I'm not surprised anyone feels this way about him. +1 |
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| Author: | newper [ Thu Oct 04, 2012 12:50 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bobby Valentine - Douchebag of the Season |
donspiracy wrote: This story is all bullshit. If they are 5 games in first, nobody cares. When is the last time the Sawks finished fourth or fifth in the AL East. October 3rd, 2012, good friend. |
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