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| Author: | 312player [ Wed Aug 15, 2012 3:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Melky Cabrera |
Ha ! knew this clown was cheating ..50 games sucker! |
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| Author: | 312player [ Wed Aug 15, 2012 3:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Melky Cabrera |
Melky Cabrera suspended 50 games for positive testosterone test By Kevin Kaduk | Big League Stew – 1 hour 40 minutes ago (AP) Melky Cabrera just delivered a huge jolt to the dog days of August with the shocking news that he's being suspended for 50 games after testing positive for testosterone. Major League Baseball announced the punishment for the reigning All-Star MVP on Wednesday afternoon and it is effective immediately. The Giants, tied with the Los Angeles Dodgers atop the NL West, only have 45 games left in the regular season. That would make Cabrera eligible to return in the sixth game of any combination of tiebreakers, wild card games and playoff contests, though he wouldn't have the benefit of working his way back "My positive test was the result of my use of a substance I should not have used," Cabrera said in a statement. "I am deeply sorry for my mistake and I apologize to my teammates, to the San Francisco Giants organization and to the fans for letting them down." Cabrera had been experiencing a great contract year with the Giants after an offseason trade from Kansas City. He currently leads the league with 159 hits and holds a .346/.390/.516 line with 11 homers and 60 RBI for San Francisco. A few thoughts here: • Given the timing and impact on the NL West, this has to rank as the biggest drug suspension since the current policy took hold in 2005. Yes, Manny Ramirez's suspension near the start of 2009 involved a bigger or better player, but it didn't come near the end of a hotly-contest division race. Ryan Braun's suspension generated a lot more headlines than Cabrera's ever will, but it was ultimately overturned on a technicality. Cabrera was a borderline MVP candidate for the Giants and his bat will be missed from their lineup. • There's no doubt Dodger fans are cheering this news as it presumably weakens the Giants down the stretch. But you have to figure that fans in wild-card chasing locales like Atlanta, Pittsburgh and St. Louis. • Until Wednesday afternoon, Cabrera figured to strike it rich on the free agent market this offseason. Best of luck to him as his agent tries to convince GMs that this year's improved numbers weren't a product of better living through chemistry. • A player accepting his suspension and apologizing immediately instead of hiding behind a team of lawyers or inventing some fantastical story and excuse. What a novel idea. • GM Brian Sabean's pursuit of Hunter Pence via the trade market just took on an added context, eh? • MLB could have a hairy situation on its hands depending how the batting title race plays out. Cabrera has 501 plate appearances to his name this season and a .346 average. That's behind Pittsburgh's Andrew McCutchen at .359 and just ahead of Joey Votto at .342. Cabrera needs one more plate appearance to qualify and so one hitless at-bat will be added to his total under the "Tony Gwynn rule" that gave the Padres star the batting title when he came up short in 1996. (Bill Madlock also benefitted from the rule in 1981, though it wasn't known as the Tony Gwynn rule then.) Would baseball keep Cabrera's name on the record books if Cabrera is atop that list at the end of the season? • Andrew Baggarly of CSN Bay Area chased rumors of a positive test at the end of July, but then publicly apologized to Cabrera when he was unable to find proof. Given Wednesday's news, a few of the commenters on that post owe Baggarly an apology. • I just imagined one of these men crying and saying "Say it ain't so, Melky" mid-blubber. They have to be among the most disappointed Giants fans today. And rightly so. |
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| Author: | badrogue17 [ Wed Aug 15, 2012 3:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Melky Cabrera |
312player wrote: Ha ! knew this clown was cheating ..50 games sucker! Terry Boers wrote: Not before I did asshat.
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| Author: | Northside_Dan [ Wed Aug 15, 2012 3:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Melky Cabrera |
I'm willing to bet Jed and Theo are on the phone right now shopping DeJesus/Soriano |
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| Author: | SHARK [ Wed Aug 15, 2012 3:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Melky Cabrera |
Northside_Dan wrote: I'm willing to bet Jed and Theo are on the phone right now shopping DeJesus/Soriano I wouldn't rule it out, only because the Giants are challenging the hated Dodgers for the NL West title. Waiver deals are tough, not to mention Alfonso Soriano's ridiculous contract.  CBSSports.com's Jon Heyman has just Tweeted that Soriano has cleared waivers. Might the Giants try again? Stay tuned. |
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| Author: | redskingreg [ Wed Aug 15, 2012 3:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Melky Cabrera |
Why are the Dodgers hated? |
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| Author: | 312player [ Wed Aug 15, 2012 3:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Melky Cabrera |
They ain't interested in Soriano...but Dejesus is a good fill in...hope it gets done. |
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| Author: | SHARK [ Wed Aug 15, 2012 3:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Melky Cabrera |
redskingreg wrote: Why are the Dodgers hated? In baseball, there are 2 big time rivalries. One is Red Sox/Yankees, regardless of the whole "hammer & nail" thing that the Boston Globe/ESPN's Bob Ryan mentioned many years ago, and the other is Dodgers/Giants. Those 2 NL West rivals have hated each other's guts since both teams played ball in New York & Brooklyn. |
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| Author: | redskingreg [ Wed Aug 15, 2012 3:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Melky Cabrera |
I understand the rivalries. But why are the Dodgers hated? Your wording is confusing as hell. |
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| Author: | SHARK [ Wed Aug 15, 2012 3:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Melky Cabrera |
redskingreg wrote: I understand the rivalries. But why are the Dodgers hated? Your wording is confusing as hell. The Dodgers hate the Giants and vice versa. This dates back to when they were in New York. |
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| Author: | Brick [ Wed Aug 15, 2012 3:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Melky Cabrera |
SHARK wrote: redskingreg wrote: I understand the rivalries. But why are the Dodgers hated? Your wording is confusing as hell. The Dodgers hate the Giants and vice versa. This dates back to when they were in New York. |
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| Author: | Terry's Peeps [ Wed Aug 15, 2012 3:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Melky Cabrera |
The Dodgers are hated because their original name was the Draft Dodgers when the team formed in 1914. Americans outside of Brooklyn despised the blatant romanticism of such cowardice. |
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| Author: | SHARK [ Wed Aug 15, 2012 4:03 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Melky Cabrera |
Boilermaker Rick wrote: SHARK wrote: redskingreg wrote: I understand the rivalries. But why are the Dodgers hated? Your wording is confusing as hell. The Dodgers hate the Giants and vice versa. This dates back to when they were in New York. Wrong Giants, Rick...This is baseball we're referring. 
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:10 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Melky Cabrera |
badrogue17 wrote: 312player wrote: Ha ! knew this clown was cheating ..50 games sucker! Terry Boers wrote: Not before I did asshat. That's who I thought of too when reading the OP. |
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| Author: | schmitty1121 [ Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Melky Cabrera |
Soriano just told reporters he doesn't like the weather in San Fran. |
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| Author: | badrogue17 [ Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Melky Cabrera |
schmitty1121 wrote: Soriano just told reporters he doesn't like the weather in San Fran. In the DR, "weather' is just a euphemism for queers. |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Wed Aug 15, 2012 6:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Melky Cabrera |
MVP of the all star game and the reason the NL has home field advantage Nice work, Budrick |
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| Author: | Brick [ Wed Aug 15, 2012 6:29 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Melky Cabrera |
rogers park bryan wrote: MVP of the all star game and the reason the NL has home field advantage More evidence that Hawk is right about how the White Sox are treated.
Nice work, Budrick |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Wed Aug 15, 2012 9:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Melky Cabrera |
Boilermaker Rick wrote: rogers park bryan wrote: MVP of the all star game and the reason the NL has home field advantage More evidence that Hawk is right about how the White Sox are treated.Nice work, Budrick Theo's computer predicted this. Not just that he took something. It predicted he'd be exposed on a day a Cy Young Winner throws his first perfect game. |
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| Author: | Jaw Breaker [ Fri Aug 17, 2012 8:47 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Melky Cabrera |
Quote: Bill Madlock also benefitted from the rule in 1981, though it wasn't known as the Tony Gwynn rule then. So shouldn't it be the "Bill Madlock rule"? |
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| Author: | SHARK [ Fri Aug 17, 2012 9:09 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Melky Cabrera |
It's my understanding Melky Cabrera's a free agent after the season. Dan Patrick was talking about him yesterday and he thinks that Cabrera cost him a lot of $$$$ on the open market as a result of testing positive for testosterone.
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Fri Aug 17, 2012 9:22 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Melky Cabrera |
SHARK wrote: It's my understanding Melky Cabrera's a free agent after the season. Dan Patrick was talking about him yesterday and he thinks that Cabrera cost him a lot of $$$$ on the open market as a result of testing positive for testosterone. But without the testosterone he would have never been in line for a big deal anyway. So its a net wash |
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| Author: | SHARK [ Fri Aug 17, 2012 9:25 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Melky Cabrera |
rogers park bryan wrote: SHARK wrote: It's my understanding Melky Cabrera's a free agent after the season. Dan Patrick was talking about him yesterday and he thinks that Cabrera cost him a lot of $$$$ on the open market as a result of testing positive for testosterone. But without the testosterone he would have never been in line for a big deal anyway. So its a net wash I was looking at the big picture. Melky Cabrera was having a big season for the Giants before getting caught.
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Fri Aug 17, 2012 9:26 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Melky Cabrera |
SHARK wrote: rogers park bryan wrote: SHARK wrote: It's my understanding Melky Cabrera's a free agent after the season. Dan Patrick was talking about him yesterday and he thinks that Cabrera cost him a lot of $$$$ on the open market as a result of testing positive for testosterone. But without the testosterone he would have never been in line for a big deal anyway. So its a net wash I was looking at the big picture. Melky Cabrera was having a big season for the Giants before getting caught. Right, but what Im saying is, if he hadnt taken the substance, he wouldnt have been so good and wouldnt have got a contract So he probably has no regrets |
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| Author: | stoneroses86 [ Fri Aug 17, 2012 11:31 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Melky Cabrera |
SHARK wrote: Dan Patrick was talking about him yesterday and he thinks that Cabrera cost him a lot of $$$$ on the open market as a result of testing positive for testosterone. Why would Melky Cabrera testing positive cost Dan Patrick a lot of money on the open market? Is Dan Patrick his agent? |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Fri Aug 17, 2012 11:58 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Melky Cabrera |
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| Author: | Krazy Ivan [ Fri Aug 17, 2012 12:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Melky Cabrera |
Either Whole or Cholcolate. You can keep that 2% shit all to yourself... |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Fri Aug 17, 2012 12:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Melky Cabrera |
I'd rather mix in a pound and a half of red sugar and have strawberry "milk" |
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| Author: | Krazy Ivan [ Fri Aug 17, 2012 12:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Melky Cabrera |
Frank Coztansa wrote: I'd rather mix in a pound and a half of red sugar and have strawberry "milk" 
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