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The Dodgers are going to make the Yankees look like the Pirates. Money doesn't matter to them.


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Hopefully those Dodgers plan on taking that garbage to the playoffs.

They are on the outside looking in right now.

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How are De La Rosa and Sands involved? No way in hell either of those 2 cleared waivers.

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Cleaning up after Theo.

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How are De La Rosa and Sands involved? No way in hell either of those 2 cleared waivers.


"@BillShaikin: To those asking: De La Rosa would be PTBNL now, then sent to Bos in winter, when no waivers necessary for trade."

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Thank god MLB made Zell lock into those TV and Radio deals for the Cubs before they could be sold.

Anyone know someone who might have REALLY wanted that?

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Thank god MLB made Zell lock into those TV and Radio deals for the Cubs before they could be sold.

Anyone know someone who might have REALLY wanted that?


2019 is right around the corner. Probably two years after the franchise value bubble bursts.

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Thought Cubs signed 20 year deals for TV and Radio?

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How are De La Rosa and Sands involved? No way in hell either of those 2 cleared waivers.


"@BillShaikin: To those asking: De La Rosa would be PTBNL now, then sent to Bos in winter, when no waivers necessary for trade."


A major league PTBNL....that is dirty pool right there.

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bigfan wrote:
Thought Cubs signed 20 year deals for TV and Radio?


TV deal could show Cubs the money
BY GORDON WITTENMYER gwittenmtyer@suntimes.com February 25, 2012 11:30PM
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Cubs chairman Tom Ricketts has his eye on revenue from regional television rights. “It seems like it’s a factor that everyone has to look at when you’re looking at financial resources,” he said. | Tom Cruze~Sun-Time
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MESA, Ariz. — If you’re looking for a face to put on the Cubs’ next big free-agent shopping spree, forget chairman Tom Ricketts and president Theo Epstein. Think Tom Skilling.

For all the talk about stadium renovations and triangle buildings, the revenue gold mine in baseball has become regional television rights.

That could make WGN and Comcast SportsNet bigger players in the Cubs’ efforts to end their title drought than Epstein.

That’s if the Cubs can tap into the trend soon enough and effectively enough to keep some of their middle-class-revenue rivals from using the same source to close the gap on them.

‘‘We’re looking at it, but we’re not sure exactly when,’’ Ricketts said Friday during a brief visit to Fitch Park.

Sources say the Cubs expect to begin discussions with WGN at the end of this year on a contract set to expire after the 2014 season. Executives considered the deal below market value before the recent boom. The team’s contract with CSN, which broadcasts roughly half the games, runs through 2019.

For now, the Cubs are spectators as the Texas Rangers and Los Angeles Angels underwrite massive free-agent commitments to Yu Darvish, Albert Pujols and C.J. Wilson with recently signed 20-year local TV deals reported to be worth $150 million per year (the Angels’ deal is said to be just over that).

In the case of the Angels — who announced their deal with Fox Sports West within days of the 10-year agreement with Pujols — the entire $317 million commitment to Pujols and Wilson is covered by roughly two years of the value of their TV deal.

It’s believed the Cubs receive about $45 million annually for TV rights on their WGN and CSN deals combined.

‘‘You just have to know it’s part of the game right now,’’ Ricketts said. ‘‘It seems like it’s a factor that everyone has to look at when you’re looking at the financial resources that a team has. Good for those guys. I’m glad they’re in the American League.’’

Don’t look now, but the National League’s small-market San Diego Padres reportedly have agreed on a 20-year local TV deal worth $75 million a year. If the Los Angeles Dodgers don’t extend a deal that expires after next season, they’re poised to jump from $46 million a year to well past the Angels with Time Warner Cable said to be waiting to pounce.

The Philadelphia Phillies — who boast a regional TV audience second only to the New York Yankees — could be worth more than any available team when their current rights deal runs out after the 2015 season.

It’s unclear how complicated the Cubs’ path to leveraging similar riches will be made by the White Sox’ agreements with WGN and CSN or Jerry Reinsdorf’s disproportionate influence at CSN through his dual stakes in the Sox and Bulls. It’s even harder to predict what the options might look like in an evolving local media landscape by the time either of the Cubs’ contracts expires.

What seems certain is that the Cubs’ ability to scout and develop their next local TV deal has greater potential for defining this era — and maybe even getting that elusive World Series championship — than any Dominican academy or crop of toolsy character guys in the next draft.

As Arizona Diamondbacks president Derrick Hall told USA Today’s Bob Nightengale: ‘‘It’s the biggest game-changer a lot of us have ever seen.’’

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I didn't know the WGN deal ran out in 2014. I thought both were 2019.

As far as the Red Sox/Dodgers deal, the Red Sox are actually getting a return, and will have 45 million dollars in non-arbitration commitments for 2013.

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Why the fuck would they want to dump Gonzales? He seems to be one of the decent guys on the club, his production is still pretty good.

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Why would the Dodgers want to destroy their clubhouse with Beckett?

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Why the fuck would they want to dump Gonzales? He seems to be one of the decent guys on the club, his production is still pretty good.


I was stunned when I heard the possibility a couple weeks ago. This deal doesn't get done without him. Big contract, having a rough year, and there are rumors about some of his success comes from being close to Tijuana with SD. I thought he'd be HUGE in Boston. Also, he was one of the main guys in the Valentine meeting. If I have to choose between Gonzalez and Valentine, I choose Gonzalez and throw Valentine in a snake pit, pull him out, and toss him in a volcano. But that could be a factor.

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Urlacher's missing neck wrote:
Why would the Dodgers want to destroy their clubhouse with Beckett?


He will have no pull in the Dodgers clubhouse.

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Why would the Dodgers want to destroy their clubhouse with Beckett?


He will have no pull in the Dodgers clubhouse.

I agree and I think he knows it. He can veto the trade though. I think he likes the pissing match with the Boston fans and will wait until they get excited about the prospects and then pull a dempster.

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Why the fuck would they want to dump Gonzales? He seems to be one of the decent guys on the club, his production is still pretty good.


I was stunned when I heard the possibility a couple weeks ago. This deal doesn't get done without him. Big contract, having a rough year, and there are rumors about some of his success comes from being close to Tijuana with SD. I thought he'd be HUGE in Boston. Also, he was one of the main guys in the Valentine meeting. If I have to choose between Gonzalez and Valentine, I choose Gonzalez and throw Valentine in a snake pit, pull him out, and toss him in a volcano. But that could be a factor.
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Didn't Gonzalez text some shit-talk to Bobby Valentine and then later try to pin it on recently traded catcher Kelly Shoppach? Boston fans were already not happy with him, then to
talk-shit and then try to deny it and blame a guy who isn't on the team anymore...had to go.


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Urlacher's missing neck wrote:
Why would the Dodgers want to destroy their clubhouse with Beckett?


He will have no pull in the Dodgers clubhouse.



In exchange for Beckett waiving his no-trade/10-5 rights, the Dodgers have arranged to have Roscoe's Chicken and Waffles take over catering the Dodgers clubhouse during games.

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Cleaning up after Theo.

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Kemp, Eithier, Ramirez, and A-Gon, solid.

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What an awful trade for both teams. Boston gives up A-Gone to get out from under some awful paper so they can turn around and give awful paper out to someone else. Dumb fucks.

And the Dodgers. Fuck you. You don't have this kind of money. You'll find this out in a year or two when you start firing saleing like a bunch of dumb assholes. Fuck I hate this trade.


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What an awful trade for both teams. Boston gives up A-Gone to get out from under some awful paper so they can turn around and give awful paper out to someone else. Dumb fucks.

And the Dodgers. Fuck you. You don't have this kind of money. You'll find this out in a year or two when you start firing saleing like a bunch of dumb assholes. Fuck I hate this trade.


This trade had my phone blowing up. I can't remember a deal like this in my lifetime. It's Sox white flag with an extra 245 million. However, the Red Sox are getting a ton in return, if you consider everything involved. My friend suggested Magic got the HIV again, and they have to win a title in the next two years. Obviously I didn't endorse this horrible joke. For shame.

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They got a ton in quantity but certainly not quality. Loney sucks, Sands sucks, De La Rosa sucks and DeJesus sucks. The only guy worth anything is Webster and he's still battling command issues in double A. This trade sucks.


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Is Bud going to close this loophole the Dodgers have found where they can trade a player on the major league roster as a PTBNL just by technically sending them down because they still have options?

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260 million off the books in Boston.


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A Gon- Great pickup provided he takes the train down to TJ to get himself right otherwise good pickup.

Beckett- Will be traded to Texas in the off season. Him and Kemp will throw before the end of the season.

Crawford- Bad bad bad money

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Basically a huge salary dump by the Red Sox. No idea what the Dodgers are doing, however.

Oh wait... Ned Coletti is still in charge there..

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