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Author: | Keyser Soze [ Sun Mar 03, 2013 11:54 am ] |
Post subject: | 2013 MLB Draft |
Figured I'd start a thread since this is such an important draft for the Cubs. Here's a quick update on how some of the top draft eligible players have performed this season and a ridiculously early top 10 mock draft: Manea has pitched good but has run into some weather problems. Appel has been dominate his last 2 starts. Stanek has gotten off to a slow start. Frazier has hit 3 home runs in 4 games. Moran is off to a very slow start in the power department. 1) Houston: Sean Manea LHP Indiana St 2) Chicago NL: Austin Meadows OF Grayson HS 3) Colorado: Mark Appel RHP Stanford 4) Minnesota: Ryne Stanek RHP Arkansas 5) Cleveland: Clint Frazier OF Loganville HS 6) Miami: Dominic Smith OF Serra HS 7) Boston: Colin Moran 3B North Carolina 8 ) Kansas City: Kris Bryant 3B San Diego Univ 9) Pittsburgh: JP Crawford SS Lakewood HS 10)Toronto: Kohl Stewart RHP St Pius HS |
Author: | Keyser Soze [ Wed Mar 06, 2013 8:24 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2013 MLB Draft |
Drew Ward has been declared eligible for the 2013 draft. Ward (6'4" 210) is a high school junior from Oklahoma who will graduate a year early. Ward projects as a power hitting third baseman with good athleticism and a strong arm. Ward could find his way into the first round of this year's draft. |
Author: | Keyser Soze [ Mon Mar 11, 2013 4:43 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2013 MLB Draft |
RHP Johnathan Gray (Oklahoma) has rocketed up draft boards and is now seen as a possible top 10 pick after recently sitting 94-98 and topping out at 100. Gray (6'4" 240) has also improved the command of his plus slider and developing changeup. |
Author: | Keyser Soze [ Tue Mar 12, 2013 8:56 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2013 MLB Draft |
Clint Frazier and Austin Meadows are playing against each other tonight and in Frazier's 3rd AB (K and FO) he hit a massive 3 run shot into the light tower. My man-crush on Frazier is as big as my....well it's big but I think Meadows has the higher upside. |
Author: | Urlacher's missing neck [ Tue Mar 12, 2013 9:05 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2013 MLB Draft |
Is Meadows that special of a left handed power bat to ignore the huge pitching holes when there are already 2 high end prospect OF's in the system? |
Author: | Keyser Soze [ Tue Mar 12, 2013 9:25 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2013 MLB Draft |
Meadows is a lot more than a power bat. He's an amazing athlete. He's 6'3" 210 and runs the 60 in 6.35. He has a beautiful line drive swing and the ball explodes off his bat. He also plays a very good CF and has a strong arm. I've heard Theo/Jed both say in the history of the top two picks position players have a higher success rate than pitchers. I could definitely see them taking one of the high school outfielders then loading up on pitching with the next ten though this draft is also deep in high school catchers which is another need for them. A lot depends on what Houston does at 1-1 but they're in a nice position. |
Author: | Keyser Soze [ Tue Mar 12, 2013 9:39 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2013 MLB Draft |
I figured Frazier's home run would already be on YouTube. It would have been nice if the cameraman followed the flight of the ball. I'm sure there will be a better video up soon. That swing is what you call short and quick. Wow. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1yKBK2CWIs |
Author: | rogers park bryan [ Wed Mar 13, 2013 8:33 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2013 MLB Draft |
Draft#:1 Austin Meadows Ht/Wt:6' 3"/200 lbs Position: OF School: Grayson HS (GA) Draft#:2 Ryne Stanek Ht/Wt:6' 4"/180 lbs Position: RHP School: Arkansas Draft#:3 Sean Manaea Ht/Wt:6' 5"/215 lbs Position: LHP School: Indiana State Draft#:4 Mark Appel Ht/Wt:6' 5"/190 lbs Position: RHP School: Stanford Draft#:5 Clint Frazier Ht/Wt:6' 0"/190 lbs Position: OF School: Loganville HS (GA) Draft#:6 Kris Bryant Ht/Wt:6' 5"/205 lbs Position: 3B School: San Diego Draft#:7 Austin Wilson Ht/Wt:6' 4"/210 lbs Position: OF School: Stanford Draft#:8 Kohl Stewart Ht/Wt:6' 3"/185 lbs Position: RHP School: St. Pius X HS (TX) Draft#:9* Trey Ball Ht/Wt:6' 6"/175 lbs Position: LHP School: New Castle Chrysler HS (IN) Draft#:10 Jonathan Crawford Ht/Wt:6' 1"/205 lbs Position: RHP School: Florida Draft#:11 Bobby Wahl Ht/Wt:6' 3"/200 lbs Position: RHP School: Mississippi Draft#:12 Colin Moran Ht/Wt:6' 4"/175 lbs Position: 3B School: North Carolina Draft#:13 Reese McGuire Ht/Wt:6' 1"/190 lbs Position: C School: Kentwood HS (WA) Draft#:14 Oscar Mercado Ht/Wt:6' 2"/175 lbs Position: SS School: Gaither Senior HS (FL) Draft#:15 Stephen Gonsalves Ht/Wt:6' 4"/185 lbs Position: LHP/OF School: Cathedral Catholic HS (CA) Draft#:16 Justin Williams Ht/Wt:6' 3"/215 lbs Position: OF School: Terrebonne HS (LA) Draft#:17 Dominic Smith Ht/Wt:6' 0"/195 lbs Position: 1B/OF School: Serra HS (CA) Draft#:18 Ian Clarkin Ht/Wt:6' 2"/190 lbs Position: LHP School: James Madison HS (CA) Draft#:19 Aaron Judge Ht/Wt:6' 7"/240 lbs Position: OF School: Fresno State Draft#:20 Jeremy Martinez Ht/Wt:5'11"/195 lbs Position: C School: Mater Dei HS (CA) Draft#:21 Marco Gonzales Ht/Wt:6' 1"/185 lbs Position: LHP School: Gonzaga Draft#:22 Andy McGuire Ht/Wt:6' 1"/190 lbs Position: SS School: Madison HS (VA) |
Author: | Keyser Soze [ Wed Mar 13, 2013 11:49 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2013 MLB Draft |
Here's another video of the home run but again the camerman does not follow the flight of The ball. I want to see how far that bad boy went. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMyruaBcjCA |
Author: | sinicalypse [ Wed Mar 13, 2013 3:54 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2013 MLB Draft |
Keyser Soze wrote: I've heard Theo/Jed both say in the history of the top two picks position players have a higher success rate than pitchers. Pedro Alvarez would like to sit down and have a word with you. |
Author: | Apologist [ Wed Mar 13, 2013 4:32 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2013 MLB Draft |
Urlacher's missing neck wrote: Is Meadows that special of a left handed power bat to ignore the huge pitching holes when there are already 2 high end prospect OF's in the system? Need-based drafting in baseball is definitely not the way to think. |
Author: | Keyser Soze [ Sat Mar 16, 2013 7:35 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2013 MLB Draft |
Johnathan Gray had another dominating performance last night while again topping out at 100mph. Sean Manea was good but not great. His stuff definitely isn't as crisp early this season as it was last summer during at Cape Cod League when he burst onto the scene. Clint Frazier hit his 7th home run of the year....in 8 games. |
Author: | RFDC [ Sat Mar 16, 2013 7:40 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2013 MLB Draft |
Keyser Soze wrote: Clint Frazier hit his 7th home run of the year....in 8 games. Next Bryce Harper? |
Author: | Keyser Soze [ Sun Mar 17, 2013 10:27 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2013 MLB Draft |
A ridiculously early revised top 10: 1. Houston: Mark Appel RHP Stanford 2. Chicago NL: Austin Meadows OF Grayson HS 3. Colorado: Johnathan Gray RHP Oklahoma 4. Minnesota: Clint Frazier OF Loganville HS 5. Cleveland: Sean Manea LHP Indiana St 6. Miami: Johnathan Denny C Yukon HS 7. Boston : Ryne Stanek RHP Arkansas 8. Kansas City: Kris Bryant 3B San Diego 9. Pittsburgh: Austin Wilson OF Stanford 10. Toronto: Kohl Stewart RHP St Pius HS |
Author: | Keyser Soze [ Wed Mar 27, 2013 9:27 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2013 MLB Draft |
1. Houston: Mark Appel RHP Stanford 2, Chicago NL: Austin Meadows OF Grayson HS 3, Colorado: Johnathan Gray RHP Oklahoma 4. Minnesota: Clint Frazier OF Loganville HS 5. Cleveland: Sean Manea LHP Indiana St 6. Miami: Johnathan Denny C Yukon HS 7. Boston : Ryne Stanek RHP Arkansas 8. Kansas City: Kris Bryant 3B San Diego 9. Pittsburgh: Ian Clarkin LHP James Madison HS 10. Toronto: Kohl Stewart RHP St Pius HS 11. New York NL: Braden Shipley RHP Nevada 12. Seattle: Chris Anderson RHP Jacksonville 13. San Diego: JP Crawford SS Lakewood HS 14. Pittsburgh: Austin Wilson OF Stanford 15. Arizona: Colin Moran 3B North Carolina 16. Philadelphia: Phillip Ervin OF Samford 17. Chicago AL: Oscar Mercado SS Gathier HS 18. Los Angeles NL :Marco Gonzalez LHP Gonzaga 19. St Louis: Matt Krook LHP St Ignatius HS 20. Detroit: Trey Ball LHP New Castle HS |
Author: | Peoria Matt [ Wed Mar 27, 2013 9:46 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2013 MLB Draft |
There's a few YouTube videos on Meadows. That swing is something. |
Author: | Apologist [ Wed Mar 27, 2013 9:46 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2013 MLB Draft |
I heard from one of my Cardinal guys (he's the one that hipped me to Taveras as a 16 year old, if that has any merit) that Stanek is potentially the new Wacha. Any thoughts on this Keyser? |
Author: | Keyser Soze [ Wed Mar 27, 2013 10:19 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2013 MLB Draft |
Stanek has a higher ceiling than Wacha. As good as Wacha has been he is still pretty much a two pitch pitcher with a plus fastball and plus changeup. Wacha's slider is below average and that's going to hold him back. Stanek has three pitches with a plus fastball and plus slider . Stanek's third pitch (changeup) is average which makes it better than Wacha's third pitch. Stanek could become an ace where Wacha is more of a 3 or 4. |
Author: | Keyser Soze [ Fri Apr 12, 2013 10:03 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2013 MLB Draft |
Johnathan Gray has put himself in the 1-1 discussion with another dominating performance tonight. He topped out at 99 and his last pitch of the night to end the 8th inning was 96. |
Author: | Regular Reader [ Fri Apr 12, 2013 11:40 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2013 MLB Draft |
It isn't said enough, but, thank you Keyser. |
Author: | Hawg Ass [ Sat Apr 13, 2013 12:40 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2013 MLB Draft |
Regular Reader wrote: It isn't said enough, but, thank you Keyser. +1 |
Author: | Keyser Soze [ Sun Apr 14, 2013 9:31 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2013 MLB Draft |
You're welcome. Here are a few more draft tidbits: High school RHP Jordan Sheffield a potential 1st rounder has been lost to Tommy John surgery Sean Manea's velocity has steadily increased but it's still not where it was when he was dominating the Cape Cod league last summer Clint Frazier hit his 11th home run Hunter Renfoe hit his 12th home run and is moving up draft boards High school RHP Hunter Harvey has touched 97 mph Austin Wilson has finally started playing after suffering an elbow injury and is off to a mediocre start High school OF Matthew McPhearson is flying up draft boards (and around the bases) after being timed at a ridiculous 6.21 in the 60. |
Author: | Apologist [ Sun Apr 14, 2013 10:43 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2013 MLB Draft |
Meadows has more rake than Menards... he probably homered while i was typing this. Theo is busting a nut at #2... just don't judge him until 2015. |
Author: | conns7901 [ Sun Apr 14, 2013 10:49 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2013 MLB Draft |
What Illinois HS prospects may get drafted high? |
Author: | Keyser Soze [ Sun Apr 14, 2013 11:23 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2013 MLB Draft |
None. This is an awful year for Illinois baseball. RHP Zach Burdi (Downers Grove South) is probably the top player in the state. He throws in the low 90's but has serious mechanical and command issues. RHP Andy Honiotes (Geneva) also throws in the low 90's but it's the most hittable low 90's you've ever seen and he has secondary pitches suck. Others who may get drafted late are Jake Ring (Grant), Corey Simon (Simeon), Jordan Getzelman (Prarie Ridge) and Chucky Robinson (Danville). |
Author: | rogers park bryan [ Sun Apr 14, 2013 10:11 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2013 MLB Draft |
sinicalypse wrote: Keyser Soze wrote: I've heard Theo/Jed both say in the history of the top two picks position players have a higher success rate than pitchers. Pedro Alvarez would like to sit down and have a word with you. You can do a lot worse than 31 homeruns with that high of a pick |
Author: | Keyser Soze [ Mon Apr 22, 2013 10:58 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2013 MLB Draft |
Appel and Gray continue to dominate and have seperated themselves from the pack Kris Bryant hit his 20th home run of the season Manea topped out at 93 in his last outing (I wasn't as impressed as I thought I'd be) Stephen F Austin SS Hunter Dozier is flying up draft boards HS LHP Cody Reed topped out at 95 in his last outing |
Author: | Keyser Soze [ Mon Apr 22, 2013 8:37 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2013 MLB Draft |
1. Houston: Mark Appel RHP Stanford 2. Chicago NL: Johnathan Gray RHP Oklahoma 3. Colorado: Austin Meadows OF Grayson HS 4. Minnesota: Ryne Stanek RHP Arkansas 5. Cleveland: Kris Bryant 3B San Diego 6. Miami: Clint Frazier OF Loganville HS 7. Boston: Colin Moran 3B North Carolina 8. Kansas City: Johnathan Denny C Yukon HS 9. Pittsburgh: Braden Shipley RHP Nevada 10. Toronto: Kohl Stewart RHP St Pius HS 11. New York NL: Sean Manea LHP Indiana St 12. Seattle: Chris Anderson RHP Jacksonville 13. San Diego: JP Crawford SS Lakewood HS 14. Pittsburgh: Trey Ball LHP New Castle HS 15. Arizona: Hunter Renfoe OF Miss St 16. Philadelphia: Phillip Ervin OF Samford 17. Chicago AL: Andrew Mitchell RHP TCU 18. Los Angeles NL: Reese McGuire C Kentwood HS 19. St Louis: Marco Gonzalez LHP Gonzaga 20. Detroit: Austin Wilson OF Stanford 21. Tampa Bay: Dominic Smith OF Serra HS 22. Baltimore: Ian Clarkin LHP James Madison HS 23. Texas: Ryan Boldt OF Red Wing HS 24. Oakland: Ryan Eades RHP LSU 25. San Francisco: Hunter Harvey RHP Bandy's HS 26. New York AL: Nick Ciuffo C Lexington HS 27. Cinncinati: Kevin Ziomek LHP Vanderbilt 28. St Louis: Hunter Dozier SS Stephen F Austin 29. Tampa Bay: Connor Jones RHP Great Bridge HS 30. Texas: DJ Peterson 3B New Mexico 31. Atlanta: Jason Hursh RHP Oklahoma St 32. New York AL: Matt McPhearson OF Riverdale Baptist HS 33. New York AL: Andrew Thurman RHP UC Irvine |
Author: | Drop In [ Fri Apr 26, 2013 9:17 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2013 MLB Draft |
Report: Cubs Have Narrowed Top Draft Choice to Mark Appel or Jonathan Gray By Brett on April 26, 2013 The NFL Draft is going on now (you cannot escape it), and the MLB Draft is about five weeks away. It won’t get the same national coverage, and it won’t have the same kind of immediate impact on the teams involved, but it’s going to be a very, very big deal for the Chicago Cubs. They pick second in the draft and, setting aside all of the other picks in the Draft, that’s the one one which the Cubs really can’t afford to whiff. There are only a handful of players reasonable under consideration for the Cubs in that two slot, but with a dearth of advanced pitching talent in the system, and a couple of big-time college arms available at the top of the Draft, it’s always been a fair bet that the Cubs would be choosing from Stanford righty Mark Appel and Oklahoma righty Jonathan Gray. And, according to Gordon Wittenmyer, that’s exactly what the Cubs are going to do. Wittenmyer reports that the Cubs have narrowed their choices at the two spot to Appel and Gray, with the intention of taking whichever is still on the board after the Astros select first overall. (Query which the Cubs would prefer if both are still on the board. That will be an interesting question over the coming weeks.) He also notes that Dale Sveum confirmed for the media that he’s been watching film on the top 10 candidates for the Cubs’ pick, and indicated it would be hard to pass on Gray or Appel if they keep doing what they’re doing. Patrick Mooney, in a similar piece, also reports that Gray and Appel have emerged at the top of the Cubs’ draft board. Does any of that mean that the Cubs are absolutely locked into only those two pitchers no matter what? Obviously the answer is no. There are still five weeks to go before the Draft, and a number of things could happen in that space – most prominently, an injury. But it is conceivable that, barring any surprising changes, the Cubs very well could have decided that it’s going to be whichever of Appel or Gray is still on the board at number two. College stats are only slightly more useful than high school stats, which are just a shade above useless, but each of Gray and Appel have been cruising this year. In nine starts, Appel has thrown 71.1 innings with a 1.54 ERA. He’s struck out 84 while walking just 12. He’s allowed 48 hits, and just one home run. Gray’s numbers, as you’d expect them to be, are equally impressive, if not moreso. Through 10 starts, he’s thrown 74.1 innings and has a 1.09 ERA. He’s struck out 91, allowed just 13 walks and 40 hits, and has given up just one homer. The Pac12 is considered a slightly better baseball conference than the Big12, for whatever that’s worth. |
Author: | Keyser Soze [ Fri Apr 26, 2013 2:52 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2013 MLB Draft |
Calling High School stats a shade above useless is probably giving them too much credit. |
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