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The last 50 MVPs: How many were juiced?
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Author:  Hatchetman [ Thu Jul 11, 2013 7:53 am ]
Post subject:  The last 50 MVPs: How many were juiced?
Year NL MVP AL MVP
2012 Buster Posey - V Miguel Cabrera - V
2011 Ryan Braun - V Justin Verlander - V
2010 Joey Votto - V Josh Hamilton - V
2009 Albert Pujols - V Joe Mauer - V
2008 Albert Pujols - V Dustin Pedroia - V
2007 Jimmy Rollins - V Alex Rodriguez - V
2006 Ryan Howard - V Justin Morneau - V
2005 Albert Pujols - V Alex Rodriguez - V
2004 Barry Bonds - V Vladimir Guerrero - V
2003 Barry Bonds - V Alex Rodriguez - V
2002 Barry Bonds - V Miguel Tejada - V
2001 Barry Bonds - V Ichiro Suzuki - V
2000 Jeff Kent - V Jason Giambi - V
1999 Chipper Jones - V Ivan Rodriguez - V
1998 Sammy Sosa - V Juan Gonzalez - V
1997 Larry Walker - V Ken Griffey - V
1996 Ken Caminiti - V Juan Gonzalez - V
1995 Barry Larkin - V Mo Vaughn - V
1994 Jeff Bagwell - V Frank Thomas - V
1993 Barry Bonds - V Frank Thomas - V
1992 Barry Bonds - V Dennis Eckersley - V
1991 Terry Pendleton - VCal Ripken - V
1990 Barry Bonds - V Rickey Henderson - V
1989 Kevin Mitchell - V Robin Yount - V
1988 Kirk Gibson - V Jose Canseco - V
Author:  Hatchetman [ Thu Jul 11, 2013 7:54 am ]
Post subject:  Re: The last 50 MVPs: How many were juiced?
I would say 35 at a MINIMUM.
Author:  SomeGuy [ Thu Jul 11, 2013 7:57 am ]
Post subject:  Re: The last 50 MVPs: How many were juiced?
Year NL MVP AL MVP
2012 Buster Posey - V Miguel Cabrera - V
2011 Ryan Braun - V Justin Verlander - V
2010 Joey Votto - V Josh Hamilton - V
2009 Albert Pujols - V Joe Mauer - V
2008 Albert Pujols - V Dustin Pedroia - V
2007 Jimmy Rollins - V Alex Rodriguez - V
2006 Ryan Howard - V Justin Morneau - V
2005 Albert Pujols - V Alex Rodriguez - V
2004 Barry Bonds - V Vladimir Guerrero - V
2003 Barry Bonds - V Alex Rodriguez - V
2002 Barry Bonds - V Miguel Tejada - V
2001 Barry Bonds - V Ichiro Suzuki - V
2000 Jeff Kent - V Jason Giambi - V
1999 Chipper Jones - V Ivan Rodriguez - V
1998 Sammy Sosa - V Juan Gonzalez - V
1997 Larry Walker - V Ken Griffey - V
1996 Ken Caminiti - V Juan Gonzalez - V
1995 Barry Larkin - V Mo Vaughn - V
1994 Jeff Bagwell - V Frank Thomas - V
1993 Barry Bonds - V Frank Thomas - V
1992 Barry Bonds - V Dennis Eckersley - V
1991 Terry Pendleton - VCal Ripken - V
1990 Barry Bonds - V Rickey Henderson - V
1989 Kevin Mitchell - V Robin Yount - V
1988 Kirk Gibson - V Jose Canseco - V
Author:  rogers park bryan [ Thu Jul 11, 2013 8:09 am ]
Post subject:  Re: The last 50 MVPs: How many were juiced?
That's not 50


Id be more interested in how many of the Cy Youngs


Start with 8

Clemens + Gagne
Author:  SpiralStairs [ Thu Jul 11, 2013 8:10 am ]
Post subject:  Re: The last 50 MVPs: How many were juiced?
SomeGuy wrote:
Year NL MVP AL MVP
2012 Buster Posey - V Miguel Cabrera - V
2011 Ryan Braun - V Justin Verlander - V
2010 Joey Votto - V Josh Hamilton - V
2009 Albert Pujols - V Joe Mauer - V
2008 Albert Pujols - V Dustin Pedroia - V
2007 Jimmy Rollins - V Alex Rodriguez - V
2006 Ryan Howard - V Justin Morneau - V
2005 Albert Pujols - V Alex Rodriguez - V
2004 Barry Bonds - V Vladimir Guerrero - V
2003 Barry Bonds - V Alex Rodriguez - V
2002 Barry Bonds - V Miguel Tejada - V
2001 Barry Bonds - V Ichiro Suzuki - V
2000 Jeff Kent - V Jason Giambi - V
1999 Chipper Jones - V Ivan Rodriguez - V
1998 Sammy Sosa - V Juan Gonzalez - V
1997 Larry Walker - V Ken Griffey - V
1996 Ken Caminiti - V Juan Gonzalez - V
1995 Barry Larkin - V Mo Vaughn - V
1994 Jeff Bagwell - V Frank Thomas - V
1993 Barry Bonds - V Frank Thomas - V
1992 Barry Bonds - V Dennis Eckersley - V
1991 Terry Pendleton - VCal Ripken - V
1990 Barry Bonds - V Rickey Henderson - V
1989 Kevin Mitchell - V Robin Yount - V
1988 Kirk Gibson - V Jose Canseco - V


This list seems to be conspicuously lacking one very important member.
Author:  SomeGuy [ Thu Jul 11, 2013 8:10 am ]
Post subject:  Re: The last 50 MVPs: How many were juiced?
rogers park bryan wrote:
That's not 50


Id be more interested in how many of the Cy Youngs


Start with 8

Clemens + Gagne


25 for NL and 25 for AL.

Add them together....
Author:  SomeGuy [ Thu Jul 11, 2013 8:11 am ]
Post subject:  Re: The last 50 MVPs: How many were juiced?
SpiralStairs wrote:
SomeGuy wrote:
Year NL MVP AL MVP
2012 Buster Posey - V Miguel Cabrera - V
2011 Ryan Braun - V Justin Verlander - V
2010 Joey Votto - V Josh Hamilton - V
2009 Albert Pujols - V Joe Mauer - V
2008 Albert Pujols - V Dustin Pedroia - V
2007 Jimmy Rollins - V Alex Rodriguez - V
2006 Ryan Howard - V Justin Morneau - V
2005 Albert Pujols - V Alex Rodriguez - V
2004 Barry Bonds - V Vladimir Guerrero - V
2003 Barry Bonds - V Alex Rodriguez - V
2002 Barry Bonds - V Miguel Tejada - V
2001 Barry Bonds - V Ichiro Suzuki - V
2000 Jeff Kent - V Jason Giambi - V
1999 Chipper Jones - V Ivan Rodriguez - V
1998 Sammy Sosa - V Juan Gonzalez - V
1997 Larry Walker - V Ken Griffey - V
1996 Ken Caminiti - V Juan Gonzalez - V
1995 Barry Larkin - V Mo Vaughn - V
1994 Jeff Bagwell - V Frank Thomas - V
1993 Barry Bonds - V Frank Thomas - V
1992 Barry Bonds - V Dennis Eckersley - V
1991 Terry Pendleton - VCal Ripken - V
1990 Barry Bonds - V Rickey Henderson - V
1989 Kevin Mitchell - V Robin Yount - V
1988 Kirk Gibson - V Jose Canseco - V


This list seems to be conspicuously lacking one very important member.


Edited!
Author:  rogers park bryan [ Thu Jul 11, 2013 8:13 am ]
Post subject:  Re: The last 50 MVPs: How many were juiced?
SomeGuy wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
That's not 50


Id be more interested in how many of the Cy Youngs


Start with 8

Clemens + Gagne


25 for NL and 25 for AL.

Add them together....

:oops:
Author:  pittmike [ Thu Jul 11, 2013 8:33 am ]
Post subject:  Re: The last 50 MVPs: How many were juiced?
rogers park bryan wrote:
SomeGuy wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
That's not 50


Id be more interested in how many of the Cy Youngs


Start with 8

Clemens + Gagne


25 for NL and 25 for AL.

Add them together....

:oops:


I had same thought just didn't post it. Its ok. :lol:
Author:  Urlacher's missing neck [ Thu Jul 11, 2013 8:43 am ]
Post subject:  Re: The last 50 MVPs: How many were juiced?
You can take Votto off that list. He has been the same offensive player since his days in the minors and has always looked the same. I saw a piece on his workouts and its more functional movements and core. Not the kind of stuff a juice head would be doing.
Author:  Douchebag [ Thu Jul 11, 2013 8:45 am ]
Post subject:  Re: The last 50 MVPs: How many were juiced?
SomeGuy wrote:
SpiralStairs wrote:
SomeGuy wrote:
Year NL MVP AL MVP
2012 Buster Posey - V Miguel Cabrera - V
2011 Ryan Braun - V Justin Verlander - V
2010 Joey Votto - V Josh Hamilton - V
2009 Albert Pujols - V Joe Mauer - V
2008 Albert Pujols - V Dustin Pedroia - V
2007 Jimmy Rollins - V Alex Rodriguez - V
2006 Ryan Howard - V Justin Morneau - V
2005 Albert Pujols - V Alex Rodriguez - V
2004 Barry Bonds - V Vladimir Guerrero - V
2003 Barry Bonds - V Alex Rodriguez - V
2002 Barry Bonds - V Miguel Tejada - V
2001 Barry Bonds - V Ichiro Suzuki - V
2000 Jeff Kent - V Jason Giambi - V
1999 Chipper Jones - V Ivan Rodriguez - V
1998 Sammy Sosa - V Juan Gonzalez - V
1997 Larry Walker - V Ken Griffey - V
1996 Ken Caminiti - V Juan Gonzalez - V
1995 Barry Larkin - V Mo Vaughn - V
1994 Jeff Bagwell - V Frank Thomas - V
1993 Barry Bonds - V Frank Thomas - V
1992 Barry Bonds - V Dennis Eckersley - V
1991 Terry Pendleton - VCal Ripken - V
1990 Barry Bonds - V Rickey Henderson - V
1989 Kevin Mitchell - V Robin Yount - V
1988 Kirk Gibson - V Jose Canseco - V


This list seems to be conspicuously lacking one very important member.


Edited!

You forgot Canseco and Thomas.
Author:  Hatchetman [ Thu Jul 11, 2013 8:46 am ]
Post subject:  Re: The last 50 MVPs: How many were juiced?
Kevin Mitchell was unequivocably on steroids. One of the most obvious ever.
Author:  SomeGuy [ Thu Jul 11, 2013 8:47 am ]
Post subject:  Re: The last 50 MVPs: How many were juiced?
Douchebag wrote:
SomeGuy wrote:
SpiralStairs wrote:
SomeGuy wrote:
Year NL MVP AL MVP
2012 Buster Posey - V Miguel Cabrera - V
2011 Ryan Braun - V Justin Verlander - V
2010 Joey Votto - V Josh Hamilton - V
2009 Albert Pujols - V Joe Mauer - V
2008 Albert Pujols - V Dustin Pedroia - V
2007 Jimmy Rollins - V Alex Rodriguez - V
2006 Ryan Howard - V Justin Morneau - V
2005 Albert Pujols - V Alex Rodriguez - V
2004 Barry Bonds - V Vladimir Guerrero - V
2003 Barry Bonds - V Alex Rodriguez - V
2002 Barry Bonds - V Miguel Tejada - V
2001 Barry Bonds - V Ichiro Suzuki - V
2000 Jeff Kent - V Jason Giambi - V
1999 Chipper Jones - V Ivan Rodriguez - V
1998 Sammy Sosa - V Juan Gonzalez - V
1997 Larry Walker - V Ken Griffey - V
1996 Ken Caminiti - V Juan Gonzalez - V
1995 Barry Larkin - V Mo Vaughn - V
1994 Jeff Bagwell - V Frank Thomas - V
1993 Barry Bonds - V Frank Thomas - V
1992 Barry Bonds - V Dennis Eckersley - V
1991 Terry Pendleton - VCal Ripken - V
1990 Barry Bonds - V Rickey Henderson - V
1989 Kevin Mitchell - V Robin Yount - V
1988 Kirk Gibson - V Jose Canseco - V


This list seems to be conspicuously lacking one very important member.


Edited!

You forgot Canseco and Thomas.


Go back to my original post, I edited it to include Canseco so please try and keep up.

I will not include Thomas.
Author:  Gloopan Kuratz [ Thu Jul 11, 2013 9:06 am ]
Post subject:  Re: The last 50 MVPs: How many were juiced?
Count up all the hispanic guys. Add Bonds, Caminiti, Braun, and Mitchell
Author:  SomeGuy [ Thu Jul 11, 2013 9:11 am ]
Post subject:  Re: The last 50 MVPs: How many were juiced?
Douchebag wrote:
SomeGuy wrote:
SpiralStairs wrote:
SomeGuy wrote:
Year NL MVP AL MVP
2012 Buster Posey - V Miguel Cabrera - V
2011 Ryan Braun - V Justin Verlander - V
2010 Joey Votto - V Josh Hamilton - V
2009 Albert Pujols - V Joe Mauer - V
2008 Albert Pujols - V Dustin Pedroia - V
2007 Jimmy Rollins - V Alex Rodriguez - V
2006 Ryan Howard - V Justin Morneau - V
2005 Albert Pujols - V Alex Rodriguez - V
2004 Barry Bonds - V Vladimir Guerrero - V
2003 Barry Bonds - V Alex Rodriguez - V
2002 Barry Bonds - V Miguel Tejada - V
2001 Barry Bonds - V Ichiro Suzuki - V
2000 Jeff Kent - V Jason Giambi - V
1999 Chipper Jones - V Ivan Rodriguez - V
1998 Sammy Sosa - V Juan Gonzalez - V
1997 Larry Walker - V Ken Griffey - V
1996 Ken Caminiti - V Juan Gonzalez - V
1995 Barry Larkin - V Mo Vaughn - V
1994 Jeff Bagwell - V Frank Thomas - V
1993 Barry Bonds - V Frank Thomas - V
1992 Barry Bonds - V Dennis Eckersley - V
1991 Terry Pendleton - VCal Ripken - V
1990 Barry Bonds - V Rickey Henderson - V
1989 Kevin Mitchell - V Robin Yount - V
1988 Kirk Gibson - V Jose Canseco - V


This list seems to be conspicuously lacking one very important member.


Edited!

You forgot Canseco and Thomas.
Author:  Hatchetman [ Thu Jul 11, 2013 9:13 am ]
Post subject:  Re: The last 50 MVPs: How many were juiced?
Reminds me, Berns said yesterday that players from "certain types" of countries are more likely to use PEDs. Maybe Hawk should have said you can't tell players from "certain types" of countries to walk more.

he's so full of shit.
Author:  Hatchetman [ Thu Jul 11, 2013 9:58 am ]
Post subject:  Re: The last 50 MVPs: How many were juiced?
I guess I bring this up to those who say, steroids don't really improve performance. Who are you crappin?? The proof is in the pudding!!
Author:  Colonel Angus [ Thu Jul 11, 2013 6:37 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The last 50 MVPs: How many were juiced?
Hatchetman wrote:
I guess I bring this up to those who say, steroids don't really improve performance. Who are you crappin?? The proof is in the pudding!!

What about all the 'roiders who didn't win the MVP?
Author:  Hatchetman [ Thu Jul 11, 2013 7:31 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The last 50 MVPs: How many were juiced?
That is a valid point if 75% of the league is on PEDS. Could be.
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