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Author: | Keyser Soze [ Sat Dec 14, 2013 12:20 am ] |
Post subject: | Why didn't old tyme pitchers throw as hard as they do today? |
Here's a good reason. |
Author: | Curious Hair [ Sat Dec 14, 2013 12:32 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Why didn't old tyme pitchers throw as hard as they do to |
You're going to have to explain it to me. I don't get it. |
Author: | Keyser Soze [ Sat Dec 14, 2013 12:37 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Why didn't old tyme pitchers throw as hard as they do to |
That's a radar gun circa 1953. |
Author: | newper [ Sat Dec 14, 2013 1:12 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Why didn't old tyme pitchers throw as hard as they do to |
Looks more like the Spanish Inquisition. |
Author: | sinicalypse [ Sat Dec 14, 2013 1:18 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Why didn't old tyme pitchers throw as hard as they do to |
...because none of them have even 1/3 of the soul that old hoss radbourn had. Old Hoss Radbourn @OldHossRadbourn 10 Dec My GM named me a "monstrous whoremonger." Meant it kindly. RT @PWSullivan: Hahn calls Eaton a "dirtbag." Only in the best sense of the word. |
Author: | Keyser Soze [ Sat Dec 14, 2013 11:07 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Why didn't old tyme pitchers throw as hard as they do to |
Old Hoss had some pretty good seasons. Today his nickname would be Work Hoss Radbourn. |
Author: | bigfan [ Sat Dec 14, 2013 11:13 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Why didn't old tyme pitchers throw as hard as they do to |
Curious Hair wrote: You're going to have to explain it to me. I don't get it. In other words, they probably do throw as hard, but the technology sucked, so 88 MPH may have been 99? Mike Marshall...excuse me...Doctor Mike Marshall does present some good evidence for throwing more. |
Author: | Douchebag [ Sat Dec 14, 2013 11:17 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Why didn't old tyme pitchers throw as hard as they do to |
The old timers were slow, white, and bad. That's why. |
Author: | bigfan [ Sat Dec 14, 2013 11:43 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Why didn't old tyme pitchers throw as hard as they do to |
Douchebag wrote: The old timers were slow, white, and bad. That's why. Maybe , but so were the "machines" that timed them. |
Author: | good dolphin [ Mon Dec 16, 2013 10:59 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Why didn't old tyme pitchers throw as hard as they do to |
I thought Feller was timed as the fastest pitch along with Nolan Ryan |
Author: | Hatchetman [ Mon Dec 16, 2013 11:03 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Why didn't old tyme pitchers throw as hard as they do to |
Performance enhancing drugs are the real reason. |
Author: | Jaw Breaker [ Tue Dec 17, 2013 10:32 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Why didn't old tyme pitchers throw as hard as they do to |
I believe Nolan Ryan still holds the record for fastest pitch, at 100.8 measured at the plate (as shown in Keyser's pic). Nowadays they measure speeds at the pitcher's release point, which is normally about 10 mph faster than when it crosses home. So Ryan would have been at almost 111 if measured today. |
Author: | pittmike [ Tue Dec 17, 2013 10:34 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Why didn't old tyme pitchers throw as hard as they do to |
Used to like watching Nolan. Wasn't Mike Scott or some other Astro a hard thrower? |
Author: | jimmypasta [ Tue Dec 17, 2013 10:36 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Why didn't old tyme pitchers throw as hard as they do to |
pittmike wrote: Used to like watching Nolan. Wasn't Mike Scott or some other Astro a hard thrower? I think Scott threw the screwball and dominated LH hitters. He had that one fantastic season with a ton of strikeouts. |
Author: | rogers park bryan [ Wed Dec 18, 2013 9:15 am ] |
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jimmypasta wrote: pittmike wrote: Used to like watching Nolan. Wasn't Mike Scott or some other Astro a hard thrower? I think Scott threw the screwball and dominated LH hitters. He had that one fantastic season with a ton of strikeouts. Not a screwball. A Vasoline ball. Nolan Ryan is a jackass |
Author: | badrogue17 [ Wed Dec 18, 2013 9:20 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Why didn't old tyme pitchers throw as hard as they do to |
Mike Scott ostensibly threw a splitter along with a good fastball . Believe he was an accused scuffer though. Other notable hard throwing Astros were Larry Dierker and James Rodney Richard. |
Author: | pittmike [ Wed Dec 18, 2013 9:45 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Why didn't old tyme pitchers throw as hard as they do to |
Yeah I remember Scott now as the splitter that dropped a ton. I vaguely remember it was either the nail file or goop. |
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