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More Career Home Runs - Abreu or Rizzo?
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Author:  IMU [ Tue Jul 29, 2014 8:39 pm ]
Post subject:  More Career Home Runs - Abreu or Rizzo?

What say you?

Author:  badrogue17 [ Tue Jul 29, 2014 8:43 pm ]
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Abreu by a wide margin.

Author:  pittmike [ Tue Jul 29, 2014 8:46 pm ]
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badrogue17 wrote:
Abreu by a wide margin.


This.

Author:  Hawg Ass [ Tue Jul 29, 2014 8:50 pm ]
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How old is Rizzo and Abreu (supposedly)?

Author:  spanky [ Tue Jul 29, 2014 8:55 pm ]
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Rizzo is 12 years younger than Abreu.
I'll take Rizzo

Author:  IMU [ Tue Jul 29, 2014 8:58 pm ]
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Rizzo will be 25 in August. Abreu is 27.

Rizzo is in the lead currently, and advanced metrics say Abreu won't keep the pace up.

A high percentage of "just enough" home runs directly coincides with career years in HR count, as proven by the long documented history of home run analysis throughout the years.

Author:  pittmike [ Tue Jul 29, 2014 8:58 pm ]
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spanky wrote:
Rizzo is 12 years younger than Abreu.
I'll take Rizzo


:lol:

Author:  Hatchetman [ Tue Jul 29, 2014 9:09 pm ]
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I'd go Rizzo given the apparent age difference. Plus Rizzo will have some value once the bat slows down cuz he can still draw a walk.

Author:  Hawg Ass [ Tue Jul 29, 2014 9:10 pm ]
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Hatchetman wrote:
I'd go Rizzo given the apparent age difference. Plus Rizzo will have some value once the bat slows down cuz he can still draw a walk.

I believe the question is most homeruns, I am fairly confident the walks won't matter.

Author:  SomeGuy [ Tue Jul 29, 2014 9:11 pm ]
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pittmike wrote:
spanky wrote:
Rizzo is 12 years younger than Abreu.
I'll take Rizzo


:lol:


Typical Cubs "fan."

Author:  Hatchetman [ Tue Jul 29, 2014 9:12 pm ]
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Hawg Ass wrote:
Hatchetman wrote:
I'd go Rizzo given the apparent age difference. Plus Rizzo will have some value once the bat slows down cuz he can still draw a walk.

I believe the question is most homeruns, I am fairly confident the walks won't matter.


the walks will matter when Rizzo is playing at age 38 and Abreu is done at 34.

Author:  FavreFan [ Tue Jul 29, 2014 10:22 pm ]
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Abreu. This one was easy. How about a tougher question?

Author:  Crystal Lake Hoffy [ Tue Jul 29, 2014 10:25 pm ]
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All depends on if Abreu's back goes out and he turns into Joe Crede.

Author:  FavreFan [ Tue Jul 29, 2014 10:53 pm ]
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Crystal Lake Hoffy wrote:
All depends on if Abreu's back goes out and he turns into Joe Crede.

It's all about his health. He's one of the five best hitters in baseball right now and in his prime. I'm thinking he's gonna go on a crazy year the next few years.

Author:  Nas [ Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:04 pm ]
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Rizzo has a head start and he's younger. Considering I was the first to vote for Rizzo it looks like IMU voted for Abreu.

Author:  FavreFan [ Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:20 pm ]
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Does anyone think Rizzo will finish with a higher career OPS?

Author:  Nas [ Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:25 pm ]
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FavreFan wrote:
Does anyone think Rizzo will finish with a higher career OPS?


Probably not

Author:  RFDC [ Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:28 pm ]
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Must see the big picture here.

We are looking at a combined 1000 homeruns from 1st base in Chicago over the next few years!

Glorious!

Author:  Nas [ Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:34 pm ]
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I think it's clear the White Sox are supposed to have a great 1st baseman just like the Bears are supposed to have a great middle linebacker.

Author:  Brick [ Wed Jul 30, 2014 6:40 am ]
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immessedup17 wrote:
Rizzo will be 25 in August. Abreu is 27.

Rizzo is in the lead currently, and advanced metrics say Abreu won't keep the pace up.

A high percentage of "just enough" home runs directly coincides with career years in HR count, as proven by the long documented history of home run analysis throughout the years.
It's much more likely that Rizzo is having a career year than it is for Abreu.

Author:  Kirkwood [ Wed Jul 30, 2014 6:47 am ]
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24 year old athlete or 36 year old DH? I'll take the the 24 year old.

Author:  Brick [ Wed Jul 30, 2014 6:57 am ]
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Kirkwood wrote:
24 year old athlete or 36 year old DH? I'll take the the 24 year old.
It's possible that Abreu is younger than we know. Maybe he is 20!

Author:  Rod [ Wed Jul 30, 2014 6:58 am ]
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Cubans age better than Italians. Minnie Minoso is ready to play this afternoon. Where's Joe DiMaggio?

Author:  IMU [ Wed Jul 30, 2014 7:04 am ]
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Nas wrote:
Rizzo has a head start and he's younger. Considering I was the first to vote for Rizzo it looks like IMU voted for Abreu.

I haven't voted yet.

Author:  rogers park bryan [ Wed Jul 30, 2014 7:29 am ]
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
immessedup17 wrote:
Rizzo will be 25 in August. Abreu is 27.

Rizzo is in the lead currently, and advanced metrics say Abreu won't keep the pace up.

A high percentage of "just enough" home runs directly coincides with career years in HR count, as proven by the long documented history of home run analysis throughout the years.
It's much more likely that Rizzo is having a career year than it is for Abreu.

What makes you say that?

Author:  Hawg Ass [ Wed Jul 30, 2014 7:32 am ]
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I went with Rizzo, looks to me like he has a very nice future ahead of him.

Author:  rogers park bryan [ Wed Jul 30, 2014 7:34 am ]
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I almost never vote in these poll threads


This will be decided by a prolonged injury

Author:  Brick [ Wed Jul 30, 2014 7:43 am ]
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rogers park bryan wrote:
What makes you say that?
We have a history on Rizzo. This year is remarkably different than any other year he has played. I'm not saying he will fall back to those numbers but as of today you have to look at this year as being so different that there is a danger that this is his career year.

Abreu may very well have been this good the past few years. There really is no reason to think what Abreu is doing is an anomaly. Just like with anyone, he may decline in the future but there really isn't a good case for it since it is most likely that he is simply this good. He also dealt with an injury and a big adjustment to the major leagues this year. It's pretty remarkable what he has overcome this year. While he may not be better next year, things are shaping up for him to have a much more stable situation.

In summary, we have no reason to think this isn't just a normal year for Abreu.

Author:  rogers park bryan [ Wed Jul 30, 2014 7:47 am ]
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
What makes you say that?
We have a history on Rizzo. This year is remarkably different than any other year he has played. I'm not saying he will fall back to those numbers but as of today you have to look at this year as being so different that there is a danger that this is his career year.

Abreu may very well have been this good the past few years. There really is no reason to think what Abreu is doing is an anomaly. Just like with anyone, he may decline in the future but there really isn't a good case for it since it is most likely that he is simply this good. He also dealt with an injury and a big adjustment to the major leagues this year. It's pretty remarkable what he has overcome this year. While he may not be better next year, things are shaping up for him to have a much more stable situation.

In summary, we have no reason to think this isn't just a normal year for Abreu.

Rizzo's is pretty normal progression for a very young player.

This is his second full season. It seems like more, but its not. He played half a season in 12 and last year.


Anyway, I dont think its a career year for either guy

Author:  IMU [ Wed Jul 30, 2014 7:47 am ]
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The same has been said about many one year wonders though. I think Abreu is good...but Rizzo has clearly changed and improved from what he was last year. The fact that you can see it in his approach every at bat is why he won't regress.

Give MLB a full offseason of watching tape on Abreu. Then see next year.

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