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| Author: | 312player [ Tue Aug 12, 2014 2:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Aramis Ramirez |
Probably plays for 2-3 more years @ least. Hall of Fame bound? YES |
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| Author: | Big Chicagoan [ Tue Aug 12, 2014 2:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Aramis Ramirez |
312player wrote: Probably plays for 2-3 more years @ least. Hall of Fame bound? YES Your views on HOF/Legend status of people is really skewed. |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Tue Aug 12, 2014 2:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Aramis Ramirez |
Hall of Very Good. Adrian Beltre gets in though |
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| Author: | Hank Scorpio [ Tue Aug 12, 2014 2:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Aramis Ramirez |
Not even close. He tops out at maybe 10% in voting one year if its a down year. |
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| Author: | Hank Scorpio [ Tue Aug 12, 2014 2:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Aramis Ramirez |
rogers park bryan wrote: Hall of Very Good. Adrian Beltre gets in though Beltre is close. He'll get in eventually but not first ballot. |
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| Author: | Hawg Ass [ Tue Aug 12, 2014 2:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Aramis Ramirez |
Hank Scorpio wrote: Not even close. He tops out at maybe 10% in voting one year if its a down year. Look at his numbers, if you haven't, it will be close. |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Tue Aug 12, 2014 2:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Aramis Ramirez |
Hank Scorpio wrote: Not even close. He tops out at maybe 10% in voting one year if its a down year. Ease up Hank. The guy has averaged 29 homers and 100 RBI over a 14 year career. Not terrible. Better numbers than Santo, btw |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Tue Aug 12, 2014 2:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Aramis Ramirez |
Hank Scorpio wrote: rogers park bryan wrote: Hall of Very Good. Adrian Beltre gets in though Beltre is close. He'll get in eventually but not first ballot. The first ballot thing is dumb. I dont even recognize it. Beltre is in for sure. No question. |
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| Author: | Hank Scorpio [ Tue Aug 12, 2014 2:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Aramis Ramirez |
rogers park bryan wrote: Hank Scorpio wrote: Not even close. He tops out at maybe 10% in voting one year if its a down year. Ease up Hank. The guy has averaged 29 homers and 100 RBI over a 14 year career. Not terrible. Better numbers than Santo, btw I never thought Santo should be in. I dont dislike Aramis. I thought he was a good player and I was happy he was on the Cubs. I just dont think he is HoF worthy. |
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| Author: | 312player [ Tue Aug 12, 2014 2:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Aramis Ramirez |
First ballot thing is really dumb...its either in or out...Beltre is a no doubter ...ARam should get in...I hope he has a huge post season n the Brewers win it all. |
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| Author: | Hank Scorpio [ Tue Aug 12, 2014 2:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Aramis Ramirez |
rogers park bryan wrote: Hank Scorpio wrote: rogers park bryan wrote: Hall of Very Good. Adrian Beltre gets in though Beltre is close. He'll get in eventually but not first ballot. The first ballot thing is dumb. I dont even recognize it. Beltre is in for sure. No question. I would be happy to see a name only be eligible for 3 years. First ballot guys are the no brainers, after that you have 2 years to convince people and make a case. After that you're out, your stats dont change. |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Tue Aug 12, 2014 2:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Aramis Ramirez |
He gets a ring and its possible. |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Tue Aug 12, 2014 2:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Aramis Ramirez |
Hank Scorpio wrote: rogers park bryan wrote: Hank Scorpio wrote: Not even close. He tops out at maybe 10% in voting one year if its a down year. Ease up Hank. The guy has averaged 29 homers and 100 RBI over a 14 year career. Not terrible. Better numbers than Santo, btw I never thought Santo should be in. I dont dislike Aramis. I thought he was a good player and I was happy he was on the Cubs. I just dont think he is HoF worthy. Agree for the most part. But 400 homeruns is a lot. |
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| Author: | Big Chicagoan [ Tue Aug 12, 2014 2:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Aramis Ramirez |
rogers park bryan wrote: Hank Scorpio wrote: Not even close. He tops out at maybe 10% in voting one year if its a down year. Ease up Hank. The guy has averaged 29 homers and 100 RBI over a 14 year career. Not terrible. Better numbers than Santo, btw 162 game average is not a career average. |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Tue Aug 12, 2014 2:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Aramis Ramirez |
Big Chicagoan wrote: rogers park bryan wrote: Hank Scorpio wrote: Not even close. He tops out at maybe 10% in voting one year if its a down year. Ease up Hank. The guy has averaged 29 homers and 100 RBI over a 14 year career. Not terrible. Better numbers than Santo, btw 162 game average is not a career average. Obviously. Ill write his 162 game average is for you in the future. The point remains. In the last 14 years, he's missed significant time twice and in both those half seasons he had roughly half his 162 game average. I guess this was one of those "just wanna be a dick" posts |
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| Author: | redskingreg [ Tue Aug 12, 2014 2:54 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Aramis Ramirez |
Whoever posted the thread about 312PlayerHatchetman being annoying was 100% correct. |
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| Author: | 312player [ Tue Aug 12, 2014 3:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Aramis Ramirez |
Yeah...that's funny coming from your bitch ass...one of the most worthless posters here..yeah...keep quoting Larry so everyone knows he cannot pronounce E's ...Brilliant ! Hatchetman is hilarious by the way...funnier than Robin Williams too. |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Tue Aug 12, 2014 3:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Aramis Ramirez |
redskingreg wrote: Whoever posted the thread about 312PlayerHatchetman being annoying was 100% correct. Are you saying they are the same person? Man, that would be awesome. I like them both veary much. |
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| Author: | Rod [ Tue Aug 12, 2014 3:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Aramis Ramirez |
rogers park bryan wrote: Better numbers than Santo, btw Not relative to his era though. I couldn't say he was better than Joe Torre or Ken Boyer or even Ventura. |
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| Author: | 312player [ Tue Aug 12, 2014 3:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Aramis Ramirez |
I wasn't around to see Boyer or Torre play...but I saw Ventura...I liked Robin, he was good...Ramirez is much better. |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Tue Aug 12, 2014 3:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Aramis Ramirez |
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: rogers park bryan wrote: Better numbers than Santo, btw Not relative to his era though. I couldn't say he was better than Joe Torre or Ken Boyer or even Ventura. Yeah, those guys are all in the Hall of Very Good |
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| Author: | bigfan [ Tue Aug 12, 2014 3:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Aramis Ramirez |
rogers park bryan wrote: Hank Scorpio wrote: Not even close. He tops out at maybe 10% in voting one year if its a down year. Ease up Hank. The guy has averaged 29 homers and 100 RBI over a 14 year career. Not terrible. Better numbers than Santo, btw Too bad half of those numbers are when the Cub were up 7-0! This year actually might be his best year in terms of consistancey from day 1. I just remember too many Aprils and mays batting .189 to put him in the HOF |
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| Author: | Rod [ Tue Aug 12, 2014 3:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Aramis Ramirez |
312player wrote: I wasn't around to see Boyer or Torre play...but I saw Ventura...I liked Robin, he was good...Ramirez is much better. Based on what? |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Tue Aug 12, 2014 3:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Aramis Ramirez |
bigfan wrote: rogers park bryan wrote: Hank Scorpio wrote: Not even close. He tops out at maybe 10% in voting one year if its a down year. Ease up Hank. The guy has averaged 29 homers and 100 RBI over a 14 year career. Not terrible. Better numbers than Santo, btw Too bad half of those numbers are when the Cub were up 7-0! This year actually might be his best year in terms of consistancey from day 1. I just remember too many Aprils and mays batting .189 to put him in the HOF Not true. He was clutch as anyone in the division winning/competing years 03/04 07/08 Sandberg had slow starts too. He had ONE year, 2009, when he racked up numbers on a bad Cub team and somehow that got applied to his whole career. |
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| Author: | Hawg Ass [ Tue Aug 12, 2014 3:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Aramis Ramirez |
bigfan wrote: rogers park bryan wrote: Hank Scorpio wrote: Not even close. He tops out at maybe 10% in voting one year if its a down year. Ease up Hank. The guy has averaged 29 homers and 100 RBI over a 14 year career. Not terrible. Better numbers than Santo, btw Too bad half of those numbers are when the Cub were up 7-0! This year actually might be his best year in terms of consistancey from day 1. I just remember too many Aprils and mays batting .189 to put him in the HOF He has had 2 really bad stretches this year, one he went like 2-45 before snapping out of it. |
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| Author: | redskingreg [ Tue Aug 12, 2014 3:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Aramis Ramirez |
rogers park bryan wrote: redskingreg wrote: Whoever posted the thread about 312PlayerHatchetman being annoying was 100% correct. Are you saying they are the same person? Man, that would be awesome. I like them both veary much. Their posts and avatars bleed into one another, and my head usually hurts after reading anything from either. |
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| Author: | 312player [ Tue Aug 12, 2014 3:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Aramis Ramirez |
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: 312player wrote: I wasn't around to see Boyer or Torre play...but I saw Ventura...I liked Robin, he was good...Ramirez is much better. Based on what? I would give Robin edge in fielding ..Aramis @ The plate...Aramis was an average third baseman with the glove...one of the best hitters in in baseball for years....lotts people liked to dog him in town, he was great when he was here...its not his fault the team sucked and was 12 games out by the end of May. |
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| Author: | Rod [ Tue Aug 12, 2014 3:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Aramis Ramirez |
312player wrote: Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: 312player wrote: I wasn't around to see Boyer or Torre play...but I saw Ventura...I liked Robin, he was good...Ramirez is much better. Based on what? I would give Robin edge in fielding ..Aramis @ The plate...Aramis was an average third baseman with the glove...one of the best hitters in in baseball for years....lotts people liked to dog him in town, he was great when he was here...its not his fault the team sucked and was 12 games out by the end of May. He was never close to being "one of the best hitters in baseball". |
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| Author: | bigfan [ Tue Aug 12, 2014 3:26 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Aramis Ramirez |
redskingreg wrote: rogers park bryan wrote: redskingreg wrote: Whoever posted the thread about 312PlayerHatchetman being annoying was 100% correct. Are you saying they are the same person? Man, that would be awesome. I like them both veary much. Their posts and avatars bleed into one another, and my head usually hurts after reading anything from either. I believe they are both me! |
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| Author: | Rod [ Tue Aug 12, 2014 3:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Aramis Ramirez |
bigfan wrote: redskingreg wrote: rogers park bryan wrote: redskingreg wrote: Whoever posted the thread about 312PlayerHatchetman being annoying was 100% correct. Are you saying they are the same person? Man, that would be awesome. I like them both veary much. Their posts and avatars bleed into one another, and my head usually hurts after reading anything from either. I believe they are both me! Could you get rid of them both and bring back Oogie? |
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