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Author:  Regular Reader [ Mon Aug 31, 2015 3:28 pm ]
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(RPB, this is for you)

A team with a payroll in the low to mid nine figures has underachieved for three seasons now. They've gotten rid of many everyday players, and the manager wanted/wants to get rid of Puig. They were the preseason heavy favorites along with the Nats (& their equally boneheaded manager) The previous heavy favorite for NL ROY is on the bench having hit in the 100s in August. No one can hit on that team. They've been no hit twice in the last two weeks, once in the juicebox by a bum.

The biggest problem seems to be the manager/former hitting coach whose entire MLB career was made on his consistency at the plate. He clearly can't teach, he has no apparent personality, isn't a motivator and doesn't have any recognizable ability to adjust to games. I said it last November, I'll say it again now, I'd fire his ass immediately.

Hell, I wouldn't mind if they threw his ass off the team plane in flight.

Author:  bigfan [ Mon Aug 31, 2015 3:35 pm ]
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Carl Crawford

2015 Contract details by year 34 $20,500,000 $857,142 $21,357,142
2016 Contract details by year 35 $20,750,000 $857,142 $21,607,142
2017 Contract details by year 36 $21,000,000 $857,142 $21,857,14

Adrian

2015 Contract details by year 33 $21,000,000 $857,142 - $21,857,142
2016 Contract details by year 34 $21,000,000 $857,142 - $21,857,142
2017 Contract details by year 35 $21,500,000 $857,142 - $22,357,142
2018 Contract details by year 36 $21,500,000 $857,142 - $22,357,14

Andre

2015 Contract details by year 33 $18,000,000 $18,000,000
2016 Contract details by year 34 $16,000,000 $16,000,000
2017 Contract details by year 35 $18,000,000 $18,000,000
2018 Contract details by year 36 $17,500,000 $17,500,000

Clayton

2015 Contract details by year 27 $30,000,000 $2,571,428 $32,571,428
2016 Contract details by year 28 $32,000,000 $2,571,428 $34,571,428
2017 Contract details by year 29 $33,000,000 $2,571,428 $35,571,428
2018 Contract details by year 30 $33,000,000 $2,571,428 $35,571,428
2019 Contract details by year 31 $32,000,000 $2,571,428 $34,571,428
2020 Contract details by year 32 $33,000,000 $2,571,428 $35,571,428

Grienke getting a new deal this year......

Author:  badrogue17 [ Mon Aug 31, 2015 3:36 pm ]
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That Carl Crawford contract has to be one of the worst team deals ever signed. Nice job Theo.

Author:  Curious Hair [ Mon Aug 31, 2015 3:59 pm ]
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Regular Reader wrote:
(RPB, this is for you)

A team with a payroll in the low to mid nine figures has underachieved for three seasons now. They've gotten rid of many everyday players, and the manager wanted/wants to get rid of Puig. They were the preseason heavy favorites along with the Nats (& their equally boneheaded manager) The previous heavy favorite for NL ROY is on the bench having hit in the 100s in August. No one can hit on that team. They've been no hit twice in the last two weeks, once in the juicebox by a bum.

The biggest problem seems to be the manager/former hitting coach whose entire MLB career was made on his consistency at the plate. He clearly can't teach, he has no apparent personality, isn't a motivator and doesn't have any recognizable ability to adjust to games. I said it last November, I'll say it again now, I'd fire his ass immediately.

Hell, I wouldn't mind if they threw his ass off the team plane in flight.


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Author:  Big Chicagoan [ Mon Aug 31, 2015 4:00 pm ]
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badrogue17 wrote:
That Carl Crawford contract has to be one of the worst team deals ever signed. Nice job Theo.


Did it with the foresight that it would help the Cubs in the future.

Author:  Regular Reader [ Mon Aug 31, 2015 5:17 pm ]
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Curious Hair wrote:
Regular Reader wrote:
Hell, I wouldn't mind if they threw his ass off the team plane in flight.


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What gave it away?

I hated that bastard as a Yankee, I laughed each time he failed to make the HOF, I cringed a bit when he got the Dodgers' job (Only an idiot couldn't at least win one pennant, I thought), now I hate that sonuvabitch as the Dodgers' waterboy/unneeded voice in front office matters.

The hate runs deep I guess. :lol:

Author:  Regular Reader [ Mon Aug 31, 2015 5:19 pm ]
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Big Chicagoan wrote:
badrogue17 wrote:
That Carl Crawford contract has to be one of the worst team deals ever signed. Nice job Theo.


Did it with the foresight that it would help the Cubs in the future.


You really better be glad you have one of the best avatars in the history of avatars.

Author:  Hatchetman [ Mon Aug 31, 2015 5:19 pm ]
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Spinal stenosis is a bitch

Author:  stoneroses86 [ Mon Aug 31, 2015 5:22 pm ]
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This hatred for the great Don Mattingly seems irrational. Have you lost control of your senses, Regular Reader?

What did the great Don Mattingly ever do to you, besides being one of the greatest hitters of all time, and an exceptional Gold Glove first baseman?

Author:  Seacrest [ Mon Aug 31, 2015 5:27 pm ]
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Regular Reader wrote:
(RPB, this is for you)

A team with a payroll in the low to mid nine figures has underachieved for three seasons now. They've gotten rid of many everyday players, and the manager wanted/wants to get rid of Puig. They were the preseason heavy favorites along with the Nats (& their equally boneheaded manager) The previous heavy favorite for NL ROY is on the bench having hit in the 100s in August. No one can hit on that team. They've been no hit twice in the last two weeks, once in the juicebox by a bum.

The biggest problem seems to be the manager/former hitting coach whose entire MLB career was made on his consistency at the plate. He clearly can't teach, he has no apparent personality, isn't a motivator and doesn't have any recognizable ability to adjust to games. I said it last November, I'll say it again now, I'd fire his ass immediately.

Hell, I wouldn't mind if they threw his ass off the team plane in flight.


Mattingly has a personality.

It's not to terribly pleasant however.

Author:  Regular Reader [ Mon Aug 31, 2015 5:33 pm ]
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stoneroses86 wrote:
This hatred for the great Don Mattingly seems irrational. Have you lost control of your senses, Regular Reader?

What did the great Don Mattingly ever do to you, besides being one of the greatest hitters of all time, and an exceptional Gold Glove first baseman?


Shocking that you of all people would defend the one major Yankee in the last 90 years never to make an ALCS or World Series.

I didn't like the Yankees, but I always respected their greats. Munson, Jackson, Guidry, Hunter, (even) Winfield, Rickey, of course Jeter...but never that loser Mattingly. I always thought he was wildly overrated, was forced down our throats on the Game of the Week (or TWIB), had no personality and was something of a mush.

Kind of a natural Cubbie (see: Sandberg, R) if you ask me.

Author:  Regular Reader [ Mon Aug 31, 2015 5:34 pm ]
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Seacrest wrote:
Mattingly has a personality.

It's not to terribly pleasant however.


Kind of a Justin Upton of the 1980's imo.

Author:  Hawg Ass [ Mon Aug 31, 2015 8:32 pm ]
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Regular Reader wrote:
stoneroses86 wrote:
This hatred for the great Don Mattingly seems irrational. Have you lost control of your senses, Regular Reader?

What did the great Don Mattingly ever do to you, besides being one of the greatest hitters of all time, and an exceptional Gold Glove first baseman?


Shocking that you of all people would defend the one major Yankee in the last 90 years never to make an ALCS or World Series.

I didn't like the Yankees, but I always respected their greats. Munson, Jackson, Guidry, Hunter, (even) Winfield, Rickey, of course Jeter...but never that loser Mattingly. I always thought he was wildly overrated, was forced down our throats on the Game of the Week (or TWIB), had no personality and was something of a mush.

Kind of a natural Cubbie (see: Sandberg, R) if you ask me.

In his defense, he played in quite the shit years of Yankee history under the Stooge.

Author:  Hatchetman [ Mon Aug 31, 2015 8:46 pm ]
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what part of .345 35 and 145 don't you understand? :lol:

Author:  Regular Reader [ Mon Aug 31, 2015 8:53 pm ]
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Hatchetman wrote:
what part of .345 35 and 145 don't you understand? :lol:


The part where he never did it in any one season. .307 222 and 1099 over 14 years isn't that hot. Almost no power after '89 and being a ride along for the brief (one) playoff appearance is perhaps more telling. Gold Gloves are always a popularity contest, especially is a Yankee is a perennial favorite...when he was actually a player (six seasons).

Author:  Hatchetman [ Mon Aug 31, 2015 8:58 pm ]
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Not sure what your point is. He was on pace to be a HOFer and his back disintegrated. No shame in that.

Author:  badrogue17 [ Mon Aug 31, 2015 8:59 pm ]
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You're a tough audience RR. Mattingly was a pretty good player . Plus 300 career hitter, Avg 40 2B's and 100 RBI's per season over his career, 9 gold gloves.

Author:  Regular Reader [ Mon Aug 31, 2015 9:10 pm ]
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Hatchetman wrote:
Not sure what your point is. He was on pace to be a HOFer and his back disintegrated. No shame in that.


Same as Eric Davis or Bret Saberhagen, but I never heard any of the same overwhelming HOF love for them.

Author:  Regular Reader [ Mon Aug 31, 2015 9:11 pm ]
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badrogue17 wrote:
You're a tough audience RR. Mattingly was a pretty good player . Plus 300 career hitter, Avg 40 2B's and 100 RBI's per season over his career, 9 gold gloves.


And Fred McGriff was better. As was Raines, or Dwight Evans.

Author:  pittmike [ Mon Aug 31, 2015 9:13 pm ]
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I remember Donnie going back and forth for a while with Boggs for batting titles. Other than that he was just a great player. Not HOF.

Author:  W_Z [ Mon Aug 31, 2015 9:17 pm ]
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjHOtxCRhnw

Author:  Regular Reader [ Mon Aug 31, 2015 9:19 pm ]
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I still want this bastard fired tonight.

Author:  Regular Reader [ Mon Aug 31, 2015 9:21 pm ]
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W_Z wrote:


Too bad he couldn't get radiation poisoning along with the rest of the stars.

Author:  Hockey Gay [ Mon Aug 31, 2015 9:24 pm ]
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I also like to add that I just don't like his face in general. He always looks like a perpetually pissed off grandma. Rubs me the wrong way.

Author:  rogers park bryan [ Tue Sep 01, 2015 7:39 am ]
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I'll always love Mattingly the player and the guy who took a stand against charging for autographs but its kinda hard to defend some of his managerial moves.


He's way too veteran happy

Author:  rogers park bryan [ Tue Sep 01, 2015 7:45 am ]
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Regular Reader wrote:
Hatchetman wrote:
what part of .345 35 and 145 don't you understand? :lol:


The part where he never did it in any one season. .307 222 and 1099 over 14 years isn't that hot. Almost no power after '89 and being a ride along for the brief (one) playoff appearance is perhaps more telling. Gold Gloves are always a popularity contest, especially is a Yankee is a perennial favorite...when he was actually a player (six seasons).

You're absolutely crazy. Mattingly was a great player.

And he did exactly what Hatchetman posted in one season and won the MVP. That was one of seven seasons where he got MVP votes.

Even with the back problems that killed his power he finished with a 162 game average of 20 homers and 100 RBI

Author:  Apologist [ Tue Sep 01, 2015 7:49 am ]
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I don't think Mattingly is particularly good, but he's the "leader of men" type that interestingly, several contenders employ. Hurdle and Matheny i would put in the same category.

Author:  rogers park bryan [ Tue Sep 01, 2015 7:55 am ]
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Author:  rogers park bryan [ Tue Sep 01, 2015 8:00 am ]
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Play the game the right way all star team

C Fisk
1B Mattingly
2B Sandberg
3B Rolen
SS Jeter
LF Erstad
CF Edmonds
RF Markakis

Author:  BigW72 [ Tue Sep 01, 2015 8:47 am ]
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RR,
Who is more overrated...Mattingly or Santo?

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