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Author: | NearWessSideHussra [ Fri Feb 28, 2014 7:13 pm ] |
Post subject: | Blues trade for Ryan Miller |
Quote: Ryan Miller's time as a Sabre is over. The longtime Buffalo goaltender has been traded to the St. Louis Blues in exchange for another goaltender, Jaroslav Halak, in a big five player, two draft pick trade that also includes NHL forwards Steve Ott and Chris Stewart.
To Buffalo: Jaroslav Halak, Chris Stewart, prospect William Carrier, 2015 1st round pick, 2016 conditional 3rd round pick. To St. Louis: Ryan Miller, Steve Ott. |
Author: | Urlacher's missing neck [ Fri Feb 28, 2014 7:17 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Blues trade for Ryan Miller |
Ott?? Did they really need another shithead? |
Author: | Kirkwood [ Fri Feb 28, 2014 7:36 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Blues trade for Ryan Miller |
OK haul for the Sabres. Blues improve. All my friends from college somehow are from St. Louis. I want to take these fucking shitheads out. Fast forward already. |
Author: | Curious Hair [ Fri Feb 28, 2014 7:41 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Blues trade for Ryan Miller |
Buffalo was like 16th or 17th in goal prevention despite being the worst team in the league. Hawks are done. |
Author: | Kirkwood [ Fri Feb 28, 2014 7:49 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Blues trade for Ryan Miller |
Hair, you know playoffs are a totally fucking different animal. |
Author: | Curious Hair [ Fri Feb 28, 2014 7:54 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Blues trade for Ryan Miller |
Just admit this isn't our year. St. Louis is going all in on this year, and the Hawks haven't beaten them once in three tries. The Hawks should still try their best and hope that the Blues crap out in the playoffs like they did the last two years, but they need to think about the long game here and not make big sacrifices to win a year that isn't theirs to win. It won't be worth it. Hard to be optimistic with the Hawks' offense plummeting and a study from the NYT saying that goal scoring drops by about .08 per Olympian. which means we're on pace to score like 2.2 goals a game the rest of the way out. |
Author: | Peoria Matt [ Fri Feb 28, 2014 7:56 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Blues trade for Ryan Miller |
Curious Hair wrote: the Hawks haven't beaten them once in three tries. See: Bulls v Heat, my friend. |
Author: | badrogue17 [ Fri Feb 28, 2014 7:59 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Blues trade for Ryan Miller |
And how do you know Miller won't shit the bed in the playoffs either. Easy to play with zero expectations in Buffalo. If indeed St Lou is " all in" this year, pressure is going to be enormous on him and I don't believe he's known as the most mentally tough goalie out there. Thats why they play the games CH. Lets see what happens. |
Author: | Curious Hair [ Fri Feb 28, 2014 7:59 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Blues trade for Ryan Miller |
NHL teams don't sandbag the regular season (except for Game 48 last year where everyone was a healthy scratch). Even the shitty Sabres have been busting their asses for Ted Nolan because that's what Ted Nolan's teams do. The Blues are considerably better than the Hawks this year, which will happen when Captain Tryhard doesn't give a fuck for weeks at a time, something people don't like to talk about. TSN now reporting that the Sabres are looking to flip Halak to Minnesota to take over for the perpetually injured Backstrom/Harding duo. Great. |
Author: | Curious Hair [ Fri Feb 28, 2014 8:07 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Blues trade for Ryan Miller |
Being overlooked in this is that the Buffalo Sabres are amassing a ton of futures on all these trades. They'll have three firsts in 2015 (Long Island will probably take their chances on the condition) and a very high first this summer, plus whatever they get from dealing Moulson, Stewart, and Halak. They're also owned by a crazy billionaire who wants to spend his fracking fortune on Buffalo hockey. It's only relevant to us to the extent that they might make a crazy offer to Patrick Kane, but their future is bright. |
Author: | FavreFan [ Fri Feb 28, 2014 8:12 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Blues trade for Ryan Miller |
Curious Hair wrote: NHL teams don't sandbag the regular season (except for Game 48 last year where everyone was a healthy scratch). Even the shitty Sabres have been busting their asses for Ted Nolan because that's what Ted Nolan's teams do. The Blues are considerably better than the Hawks this year, which will happen when Captain Tryhard doesn't give a fuck for weeks at a time, something people don't like to talk about. TSN now reporting that the Sabres are looking to flip Halak to Minnesota to take over for the perpetually injured Backstrom/Harding duo. Great. I'm confused... |
Author: | SomeGuy [ Fri Feb 28, 2014 8:15 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Blues trade for Ryan Miller |
So, the Hawks are bad now? |
Author: | NearWessSideHussra [ Fri Feb 28, 2014 8:15 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Blues trade for Ryan Miller |
Curious Hair wrote: TSN now reporting that the Sabres are looking to flip Halak to Minnesota to take over for the perpetually injured Backstrom/Harding duo. Great. Miller and Halak's career numbers *appear* not dissimilar, until you factor in the teams in front of them. If Miller-as-a-Blue can do what he did in front of shitty Sabre teams... http://www.stlouisgametime.com/2014/1/3 ... than-halak Quote: Career, Regular Season, Even Strength
Miller has faced 11648 shots and made 10745 saves for a 0.9225 ESS%. Halak has faced 4904 shots and made 4535 saves for a 0.9248 ESS%. Edge Halak, but realistically those save percentages are the same. Last 3 years, Regular Season, Even Strength Miller has faced 4056 shots and made 3748 saves for a 0.9241 ESS%. Halak has faced 2448 shots and made 2262 saves for a 0.9240 ESS%. Those save percentages are obviously the same. That's one goal difference in 10,000 shots. |
Author: | Curious Hair [ Fri Feb 28, 2014 8:17 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Blues trade for Ryan Miller |
They've been bad for two months. Perhaps you missed losing to Grand Rapids, losing to Dallas on an Antoine Roussel penalty shot, getting shut out by a Mike Smith who might lose his starting job, and a cavalcade of overtime losses. |
Author: | badrogue17 [ Fri Feb 28, 2014 8:19 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Blues trade for Ryan Miller |
And the Blackhawks couldn't beat Quick, or Rask or any of the other douches that are brick walls. Ill take my chances in the playoffs against anyone . It might not be their year sure, but they shouldn't be afraid to play anyone in the playoffs. Neither should their fans. |
Author: | Baby McNown [ Fri Feb 28, 2014 8:34 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Blues trade for Ryan Miller |
badrogue17 wrote: And the Blackhawks couldn't beat Quick, or Rask or any of the other douches that are brick walls. Ill take my chances in the playoffs against anyone . It might not be their year sure, but they shouldn't be afraid to play anyone in the playoffs. Neither should their fans. If Boston figures out earlier in the series (or bothers to watch tape) that Crawford has no glove side, and then sticks with it instead of chunking it after one game, the Hawks don't win that series. I hate St Louis but this was a great deal for them. The Hawks are in trouble. |
Author: | KDdidit [ Fri Feb 28, 2014 9:33 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Blues trade for Ryan Miller |
The Hawks aren't going to win? Well Bernsie and I better stop watching so we don't waste our time. |
Author: | SomeGuy [ Fri Feb 28, 2014 10:10 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Blues trade for Ryan Miller |
Curious Hair wrote: They've been bad for two months. Perhaps you missed losing to Grand Rapids, losing to Dallas on an Antoine Roussel penalty shot, getting shut out by a Mike Smith who might lose his starting job, and a cavalcade of overtime losses. They've lost some games? Only bad teams do that. |
Author: | RFDC [ Fri Feb 28, 2014 10:25 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Blues trade for Ryan Miller |
Baby McNown wrote: I hate St Louis but this was a great deal for them. The Hawks are in trouble. Each goalies record so far this year ... Miller 15-22-3 with a 2.72 goals-against average Halak 24-9-4 record with a 2.23 goals-against average Yeah Blackhawks are in such trouble. I am with rogue |
Author: | Curious Hair [ Fri Feb 28, 2014 10:29 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Blues trade for Ryan Miller |
Miller was playing on the worst team of the salary cap era. I'm not sure whether you realize how bad Buffalo is. That he won 15 games is completely awe-inspiring. |
Author: | Kirkwood [ Mon May 19, 2014 10:42 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Blues trade for Ryan Miller |
Quote: BREAKING: #stblues announce three-year contract extension for Brian Elliott, meaning Ryan Miller will be moving on. Well, unfortunately, GM Armstrong didn't go all in on his idiotic Miller trade and attempt to re-sign him. Would've left the Blues without a 1st in 2014 & 2015. As CH posted their pipeline other than Rattie and Allen is empty so they're still pretty fucked. |
Author: | Curious Hair [ Mon May 19, 2014 12:33 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Blues trade for Ryan Miller |
Elliott and Allen going forth will still be formidable, though I suppose it's not unthinkable that they spring for some chump like Dan Ellis or Anders Lindback to back up Elliott and stall the service clock on Allen, who seems to be very much for real. |
Author: | Gloopan Kuratz [ Mon May 19, 2014 1:53 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Blues trade for Ryan Miller |
Wouldn't shock me to see Miller back in Buffalo. Who else is going to pony up big bucks for him? Plus Buffalo has to get up to the salary floor |
Author: | Scorehead [ Mon May 19, 2014 5:24 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Blues trade for Ryan Miller |
Curious Hair wrote: Just admit this isn't our year. St. Louis is going all in on this year, and the Hawks haven't beaten them once in three tries. The Hawks should still try their best and hope that the Blues crap out in the playoffs like they did the last two years, but they need to think about the long game here and not make big sacrifices to win a year that isn't theirs to win. It won't be worth it. Hard to be optimistic with the Hawks' offense plummeting and a study from the NYT saying that goal scoring drops by about .08 per Olympian. which means we're on pace to score like 2.2 goals a game the rest of the way out. |
Author: | RFDC [ Mon May 19, 2014 9:48 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Blues trade for Ryan Miller |
lots of bad here |
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