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PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 11:06 pm 
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 8:30 am 
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I honestly hope it doesn't happen but this team & this season has the potential to be Fun-Bad !!!

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 8:40 am 
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This would never happen if Sandberg was here...

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Maybe it's not a bad thing, this team needs some player leadership. Hopefully someone stepped up

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Maybe it's not a bad thing, this team needs some player leadership. Hopefully someone stepped up


Sounds like Pena held the meeting, which is a total fucking joke. If you need a players only meeting after game 4 of Spring Training, the GM needs to move some people out ASAP!

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If you need a players only meeting after game 4 of Spring Training, the GM needs to move some people out ASAP!

Disagree. At least this season might entertain me. If you're going to be bad, you might as well be fun-bad.

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100 loss season would be outstanding! if hendry survived that, he may be part cock roach

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The Cubs Starting Rotation and what I beleive to be a solid bullpen might keep them around .500 baseball. This team lacks a solid infield defense and has below average team speed.
The OF of Colvin/Byrd/Fukadome is above average "D" wise. I think Soriano/Fuk should battle it out for platooning,not Colvin/Fuk.

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This might turn out to be one of the worst defensive teams in the league.
And there's way too much faith in Cashner, Wood in the pen. I heard Len on mac's show and he was like "Ooh! These guys can compete with any bullpen in the majors" :roll: :roll:
C'mon Len. Don't start being that guy.

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This might turn out to be one of the worst defensive teams in the league.
And there's way too much faith in Cashner, Wood in the pen. I heard Len on mac's show and he was like "Ooh! These guys can compete with any bullpen in the majors" :roll: :roll:
C'mon Len. Don't start being that guy.


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I think it's safe to say that Ryne Sandberg wouldn't have these issues.

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i did not want quade here... but put blame where it belongs...hendry, i agree bullpen is below average.. wood will be on dl by july

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Grabow should have a bounceback year,Kerry Wood pitched well for the Yankees,Sean Marshall is coming off a very good year and Marmol is near unhittable.


I'll sit down and proceed with my kool-aid injection.

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i did not want quade here... but put blame where it belongs...hendry, i agree bullpen is below average.. wood will be on dl by july



Bullpens are a crap shoot, so we wont' know what we have until the season starts. However, to call the bullpen 'below average' on paper is dumb

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i did not want quade here... but put blame where it belongs...hendry, i agree bullpen is below average.. wood will be on dl by july



Bullpens are a crap shoot, so we wont' know what we have until the season starts. However, to call the bullpen 'below average' on paper is dumb

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Darkside wrote:
This might turn out to be one of the worst defensive teams in the league.
And there's way too much faith in Cashner, Wood in the pen. I heard Len on mac's show and he was like "Ooh! These guys can compete with any bullpen in the majors" :roll: :roll:
C'mon Len. Don't start being that guy.

Buddy and I were talking about this the other day. In addition to Marmol, Wood, Cashner, etc.....you've essentially got 4-5 guys battling for the last two spots in the rotation. The guys that don't make the rotation should be nothing but a bonus to the pen, save for maybe Silva. Guys like Wellemeyer, Wells, Shark, etc. may be just the thing to be not only set-up guys but also innings-eaters out of the pen.

Put me down as believing that the bullpen will be one of the strengths of the team this year.

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I am looking forward to a fun bad season.

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i disagree, the white sox have an outstanding bullpen, cubs do not.. bullpen a crapshoot? nah... cashner is unimpressive so is grabow.

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Put me down as believing that the bullpen will be one of the strengths of the team this year.

I hope you're right. They'll definitely be getting a ton of work.

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Put me down as believing that the bullpen will be one of the strengths of the team this year.

I hope you're right. They'll definitely be getting a ton of work.

That's the problem. The bullpen can be the best of all time - if the rest of the team sucks it doesn't matter much....

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i would have liked to see marshall in the rotation, release silva fat useless ass.

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i would have liked to see marshall in the rotation, release silva fat useless ass.

Ok, Marshall and.............


FWIW - I like Marshall in the pen (provided we have decent starters). My choice at this very second would be Wells and Silva 4/5.

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i would have liked to see marshall in the rotation, release silva fat useless ass.


So your plan to fix our bad bullpen is remove the best lefty we have and replace him with??

Cashner has a mid-high 90's fastball and a plus slider. He works out his control he can be very good.

My first four are locked in Garza/D/Demp/Wells with 95% 5th starter going to Cashner. Release Silva or put him in long relief so we see him once every two weeks at most.

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randy wells is a bum, save him for mop up duty aka long relief

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i would have liked to see marshall in the rotation, release silva fat useless ass.


So your plan to fix our bad bullpen is remove the best lefty we have and replace him with??

Cashner has a mid-high 90's fastball and a plus slider. He works out his control he can be very good.

My first four are locked in Garza/D/Demp/Wells with 95% 5th starter going to Cashner. Release Silva or put him in long relief so we see him once every two weeks at most.




cashner may have some upside due to his age, time will tell. fix the bullpen? too little too late this team blows.. release silva because he sucks, but his attitude sucks also, and that is the last thing a rookie manager needs. this team has zero shot at winning the division , none.. i prefer aaa unknowns to these turds. marshall is a hell of a pitcher, put him in rotation to replace ted lily

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312player wrote:
i disagree, the white sox have an outstanding bullpen, cubs do not.. bullpen a crapshoot? nah... cashner is unimpressive so is grabow.


The Sox at this point don't have a closer...they have prospects like Sale who has pitched a grand total of 23 major league innings and Thornton, who would rather be a setup guy. If the Sox can't find a closer, you could have the best set up men in baseball and it will mean nothing.

So to say the Sox have an outstanding bullpen is a little extreme.

It has been said, but all bullpens are crapshoots, but regarding the Cubs bullpen at least you have some experience and your not depending on minor league retreads...Russell, Berg, Stevens etc.

I gotta believe Grabow can't be that bad as he was last year, Marshall had been steady for a few years and Marmol is one of the better closers in baseball. Wood is the wild card, if he is close to what he was in '08, the Cubs bullpen can be very good, if not they will be just average.


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if you have no insight i guess you can say crap shoot, and and thorton wants to close, he said it . why do you say he wants to setup? and sale and santos have great stuff. very confident in that pen.

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312player wrote:
if you have no insight i guess you can say crap shoot, and and thorton wants to close, he said it . why do you say he wants to setup? and sale and santos have great stuff. very confident in that pen.


I read the headline wrong in the Sun Times yesterday, Thornton prefers a set role, not just a set up role, my mistake.

However, how did Santos do when pitched in the 8th and 9th innings last year? Not very well. Sale pitched well last year but again that was only 23 innings. To say the Sox have an outstanding bullpen when there is no proven closer on the staff is silly, and I don't care how much "insight" you have.


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santos had a very good season imo, guy has great stuff .if i remember correctly santos was bounced around the pen pretty much all season. sale and thorton have great stuff also. this is what happens when you take a competent organization who acquire talent. the cubs are inept from the top to the bottom.

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