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PostPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2011 3:22 pm 
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Back to Back triples!

Most impressive is the second one is in LF, right in front of him.

I am sure the stats guys are looking up the last time that happened.

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 Post subject: Re: Castro
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#1 in BA, OBP, SLG, and of course OPS.

MVP.

He gotta learn how to eat those questionable throws. That cost the game today.

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 Post subject: Re: Castro
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fidell castro sucks

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 Post subject: Re: Castro
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#1 in BA, OBP, SLG, and of course OPS.

MVP.

He gotta learn how to eat those questionable throws. That cost the game today.


Terrible situational hitting by Soto,Soriano & Byrd over the past 3 days have not gone unnoticed.

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 Post subject: Re: Castro
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spmack wrote:
immessedup17 wrote:
#1 in BA, OBP, SLG, and of course OPS.

MVP.

He gotta learn how to eat those questionable throws. That cost the game today.


Terrible situational hitting by Soto,Soriano & Byrd over the past 3 days have not gone unnoticed.

Castro did not cost them the game. The fact that the offense couldn't do what every other team seems to be able to do to one Ross Olendorf, beat the living hell out of him, is what lost them the game. This team is gonna struggle to score runs all year.
It is a poorly constructed lineup with too many strikeout and as Jimmy said, a lack of situational hitters.
I applaud Barney for putting the ball in play, hitting a sac fly to score Castro. Byrd and Soriano are unfamiliar with that concept.

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 Post subject: Re: Castro
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So far,Quade looks like another push button manager. Where was Fukudome in the 9th? Pinch hit for Byrd. This season it might be better to put Baker at 1st and Barney at 2nd versus lefties. I like Pena but over the long haul,he will be a strikeout machine versus the lefties. This Cub team will go nowhere because the RH hitting is terrible except for ARam & Castro. Soto,Soriano & "Punch&Judy" Byrd will kill this team over 162 game schedule.

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 Post subject: Re: Castro
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As bad as the hitting is, they arent going to be good.


So the focus on Castro is even stronger. He has GOT to start improving defensively. I mean these throws are just stupid. Not sure you can say he'll learn not to do that. He should know that already.


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 Post subject: Re: Castro
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As bad as the hitting is, they arent going to be good.


So the focus on Castro is even stronger. He has GOT to start improving defensively. I mean these throws are just stupid. Not sure you can say he'll learn not to do that. He should know that already.

He just turned 21. I have been watching baseball long enough to know that defensive sense can be the last thing to click.

He'll be fine.

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 Post subject: Re: Castro
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So far,Quade looks like another push button manager. Where was Fukudome in the 9th? Pinch hit for Byrd. This season it might be better to put Baker at 1st and Barney at 2nd versus lefties. I like Pena but over the long haul,he will be a strikeout machine versus the lefties. This Cub team will go nowhere because the RH hitting is terrible except for ARam & Castro. Soto,Soriano & "Punch&Judy" Byrd will kill this team over 162 game schedule.

Quade pinch hitting Reed Johnson against a RH pitcher in the ninth was a joke. Fukudome made perfect sense given his tendency to draw the base on balls. I guess that was to esoteric a concept for the great Mike Quade.


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 Post subject: Re: Castro
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CP_Guy,
Sorry,I forgot about that gaf already. 3 games in,I have already questioned about 6 moves including starting the 9th with Marmol. I would have given Grabow or Marshall a shot at the 3 lefty hitters in a row. At least give them the 1st batter with Marmol in the BP. Marmol should not be an automatic due to his wildness issues.

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 Post subject: Re: Castro
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Sorry,I forgot about that gaf already. 3 games in,I have already questioned about 6 moves including starting the 9th with Marmol. I would have given Grabow or Marshall a shot at the 3 lefty hitters in a row. At least give them the 1st batter with Marmol in the BP. Marmol should not be an automatic due to his wildness issues.

No way I go with Grabow. He is wild as well. Possibly Marshall, but given how good Marmol looked Saturday, it's hard not to give him the ball to start the 9th.


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 Post subject: Re: Castro
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Mr. Reason wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
As bad as the hitting is, they arent going to be good.


So the focus on Castro is even stronger. He has GOT to start improving defensively. I mean these throws are just stupid. Not sure you can say he'll learn not to do that. He should know that already.

He just turned 21. I have been watching baseball long enough to know that defensive sense can be the last thing to click.

He'll be fine.


Ya, I guess its just slightly annoying because it seems like a head thing....or a rex grossman thing. (Fuck it Im throwin it)

Im sure it will improve, just hope its sooner rather than later


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 Post subject: Re: Castro
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Yeah,in most situations I would. I'm just saying,3 lefties in a row. At least have Marshall give it a shot once in a while. Maybe Hurdle PH for somebody with a RH hitter,then bring in Marmol. He sucked today,but cub hitting was terrible.

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 Post subject: Re: Castro
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Mr. Reason wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
As bad as the hitting is, they arent going to be good.


So the focus on Castro is even stronger. He has GOT to start improving defensively. I mean these throws are just stupid. Not sure you can say he'll learn not to do that. He should know that already.

He just turned 21. I have been watching baseball long enough to know that defensive sense can be the last thing to click.

He'll be fine.

I don't know, Reason. Physical errors are one thing but poor judgement and bad baseball decisions are another. The kids got all the talent in the world but he can't keep making these mistakes that cost games.


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 Post subject: Re: Castro
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Mr. Reason wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
As bad as the hitting is, they arent going to be good.


So the focus on Castro is even stronger. He has GOT to start improving defensively. I mean these throws are just stupid. Not sure you can say he'll learn not to do that. He should know that already.

He just turned 21. I have been watching baseball long enough to know that defensive sense can be the last thing to click.

He'll be fine.

I don't know, Reason. Physical errors are one thing but poor judgement and bad baseball decisions are another. The kids got all the talent in the world but he can't keep making these mistakes that cost games.

He didn't cost them the game. Talk to me after this year about his fielding decisions. If I don't see improvements, then I'll be concerned.



You'd take him for Alexi in a Minnesota Minute.

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 Post subject: Re: Castro
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Long term absolutely but I'll stick with Alexei for the next couple of years.

You can not win a World Series with Starlin Castro as your shortstop. :wink:


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 Post subject: Re: Castro
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Mr. Reason wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
As bad as the hitting is, they arent going to be good.


So the focus on Castro is even stronger. He has GOT to start improving defensively. I mean these throws are just stupid. Not sure you can say he'll learn not to do that. He should know that already.

He just turned 21. I have been watching baseball long enough to know that defensive sense can be the last thing to click.

He'll be fine.

I don't know, Reason. Physical errors are one thing but poor judgement and bad baseball decisions are another. The kids got all the talent in the world but he can't keep making these mistakes that cost games.


He's one of the youngest players in baseball. He's got time to learn.


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 Post subject: Re: Castro
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Time to learn not to throw the ball when the guy is obviously safe?


Ok, but it doenst scream SMART PLAYER that he keeps making the same mistake


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 Post subject: Re: Castro
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Long term absolutely but I'll stick with Alexei for the next couple of years.

You can not win a World Series with Starlin Castro as your shortstop. :wink:

Up yours, Keyser. That can be said about every Cub shortstop since Tinkers.

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 Post subject: Re: Castro
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Time to learn not to throw the ball when the guy is obviously safe?


Ok, but it doenst scream SMART PLAYER that he keeps making the same mistake

I seem to recall some poster here lecturing another, possibly younger, poster here about how much things change as you get on in years. All the way into your late twenties, as I recall.

I found the whole exchange laughable. But it happened nonetheless.

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 Post subject: Re: Castro
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Mr. Reason wrote:
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Time to learn not to throw the ball when the guy is obviously safe?


Ok, but it doenst scream SMART PLAYER that he keeps making the same mistake

I seem to recall some poster here lecturing another, possibly younger, poster here about how much things change as you get on in years. All the way into your late twenties, as I recall.

I found the whole exchange laughable. But it happened nonetheless.

I dont think that applies here, but ok.


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 Post subject: Re: Castro
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rogers park bryan wrote:
Mr. Reason wrote:
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Time to learn not to throw the ball when the guy is obviously safe?


Ok, but it doenst scream SMART PLAYER that he keeps making the same mistake

I seem to recall some poster here lecturing another, possibly younger, poster here about how much things change as you get on in years. All the way into your late twenties, as I recall.

I found the whole exchange laughable. But it happened nonetheless.

I dont think that applies here, but ok.

Of course you wouldn't.

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You finding that exchange laughable....is laughable in itself


Youre like 30. Im probably older than you.


Ive watched this team religiously for 23 years. I doubt you have many, if any years on me watching the cubs.

Not sure why you think your opinion holds weight more than anyone else's.


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You finding that exchange laughable....is laughable in itself


Youre like 30. Im probably older than you.

Yeah, you just go with that...

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 Post subject: Re: Castro
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Mr. Reason wrote:
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You finding that exchange laughable....is laughable in itself


Youre like 30. Im probably older than you.

Yeah, you just go with that...

Im sorry but you pretending to be old is one of CSFMB's intriguing mysteries.


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You finding that exchange laughable....is laughable in itself


Youre like 30. Im probably older than you.


Ive watched this team religiously for 23 years. I doubt you have many, if any years on me watching the cubs.

Not sure why you think your opinion holds weight more than anyone else's.

Since you added some since I quoted.


I repeat, yeah, you just go with that...

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rogers park bryan wrote:
Mr. Reason wrote:
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You finding that exchange laughable....is laughable in itself


Youre like 30. Im probably older than you.

Yeah, you just go with that...

Im sorry but you pretending to be old is one of CSFMB's intriguing mysteries.

Perhaps, you should just stick to finding those who so underhandedly cost you your title...twerp.

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Still intrigued by your pretending to be old.


Id love to hear why and how that started someday


Anyways, I hope Mr. Castro goes thru some life experiences that make stupid throws a thing of the past.


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Still intrigued by your pretending to be old.


Id love to hear why and how that started someday

Listen Brain, I may not be old enough to be your daddy, but I'm damn close. It all started the day I was born.

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 Post subject: Re: Castro
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Mr. Reason wrote:
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Still intrigued by your pretending to be old.


Id love to hear why and how that started someday

Listen Brain, I may not be old enough to be your daddy, but I'm damn close. It all started the day I was born.

Cool


But you know as good as Castro is, and he looks like he's gonna be a great player, he doesnt seem like he's gonna be someone you build a team around.

He's a piece, albeit a very good piece


Gonna need some more talent in here eventually


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