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He might need to start taking some AB's away from the guy in left field while the 1 month of Fuk productivity continues.

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 Post subject: Re: Colvin
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he should be playing everyday

No other outfielder on this team will be around when theyre competitive again


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 Post subject: Re: Colvin
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rogers park bryan wrote:
No other outfielder on this team will be around when theyre competitive again

:shock: Soriano has 4 years left......

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 Post subject: Re: Colvin
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Soriano is a DH playing left field. By title, RPB is correct

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 Post subject: Re: Colvin
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I just don't want to wait 4 more years to be competitive...

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 Post subject: Re: Colvin
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spanky wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
No other outfielder on this team will be around when theyre competitive again

:shock: Soriano has 4 years left......

Im assuming a buy out/trade will be worked out by then


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 Post subject: Re: Colvin
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The Cubs should dump Sorry Sori RIGHT NOW. Giving him an extra 6-800 at bats accomplishes what exactly?

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 Post subject: Re: Colvin
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rogers park bryan wrote:
spanky wrote:
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No other outfielder on this team will be around when theyre competitive again

:shock: Soriano has 4 years left......

Im assuming a buy out/trade will be worked out by then

I still see Soriano being here at least another 2 seasons. There's no club in baseball that would eat 4 years of that deal, but hopefully the Cubs will be willing to eat at least two years of the contract.

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 Post subject: Re: Colvin
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Brett Jackson, Matt Szczur, Tyler Colvin = 10 more years without a World Series Title.
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 Post subject: Re: Colvin
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that is why the pena signing was strange ... i would have put colvin @ 1st and get him 500 plus at bats and see if he can hit for real..i will say pena looks better with the leather than i thought and seems like a good clubhouse guy..would have saved that 10 mill for prince fielder in the off season and evaluate colvin in the process



and that soriano deal is the worst contract i have ever seen in sports...this guy is probably 37 and is hands down the worst outfielder in baseball, and nowhere near good enough at the plate to pass off as a dh..cubs will keep this loser here for 3 years minimum

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 Post subject: Re: Colvin
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Who's this Sczur guy?

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 Post subject: Re: Colvin
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Who's this Sczur guy?

Isn't he the former 'Nova football star who is even better at baseball.

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 Post subject: Re: Colvin
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What?? Who is they?


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 Post subject: Re: Colvin
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In football or baseball? Can you post this article?


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 Post subject: Re: Colvin
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same scouts that project dewitt as a 280 15 hr a year player?

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 Post subject: Re: Colvin
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Google brings up a lot of articles. Can you be a little more specific?


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 Post subject: Re: Colvin
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That's what I thought. :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Colvin
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Colvin did fine at 1st base yesterday, so perhaps he will see more playing time there as well as spelling Fukudome and Soriano. As long as it gets him regular at bats. It's too hard to stay sharp playing as seldom as he did early last season, when Lou was only giving him 1 start a week, along with a few pinch hitting opportunities.

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 Post subject: Re: Colvin
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immessedup17 wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
Google brings up a lot of articles. Can you be a little more specific?

Yeah.
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You can google it, I found it this morning. It was from January 2011. It discussed outfield depth.

Ive searched around.

Most of the articles seem to know he was choosinig baseball.

Maybe youre mistaken?


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 Post subject: Re: Colvin
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immessedup17 wrote:
I found the article within 2 minutes of looking for it again, knowing nothing besides it was posted in January and discussed Cubs outfield depth.
Why did you all have such an issue?
Are people 24 and under the only ones with the ability to efficiently use the interwebz?

What did you enter into google?

I wasnt looking for your specific article. I was looking for scouting reports.

Ya know from actual unbiased sources

Not CubbieCrib


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 Post subject: Re: Colvin
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Once Brian Anderson gets some consistent ABs he'll be good too.


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 Post subject: Re: Colvin
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So cubbiegirl is basing the 11-29 off how much he signed for? So based on Samardjiza's $10M deal that means he should have been draft #1 overall? Ok.....


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 Post subject: Re: Colvin
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He was a 5th round pick just like Samardjiza and signed for a lot of money which makes them better. Got it. :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Colvin
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immessedup17 wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
immessedup17 wrote:
I found the article within 2 minutes of looking for it again, knowing nothing besides it was posted in January and discussed Cubs outfield depth.
Why did you all have such an issue?
Are people 24 and under the only ones with the ability to efficiently use the interwebz?

What did you enter into google?

I wasnt looking for your specific article. I was looking for scouting reports.

Ya know from actual unbiased sources

Not CubbieCrib


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Well, consider that Baseball America stated that Szczur could easily have been a first round pick in the 2011 MLB draft had he not signed with anyone and returned to the draft. A $1.5 million signing bonus would in line with the Cubs could have expected to pay had they drafted Szczur between 11 and 29. It could have been much higher, maybe slightly lower, but $1.5 is right about what Szczur would have gotten as first round pick. In other words, that is a good signing for the Cubs. It wasn’t excessive, it wasn’t a major league contract, and it keeps a very good outfield prospect in the Cubs system.


Is Baseball America not a good source for you? This kind of thing is...you know...what they do.

If Baseball America Stated it then you should post that

All I see is the cubbiecirb writer saying they did.


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 Post subject: Re: Colvin
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Here Ill do it for you.

Its called having a legitimate source

If your source has the word Cubbie its to be dismissed


Szczur Commits To Cubs For $1.5M

Posted Jan. 18, 2011 10:00 pm by Jim Callis
Filed under: Signings

Matt Szczur has committed to the Cubs and given up a possible NFL career for $1.5 million, a baseball source has confirmed.

Chicago originally signed Szczur for $100,000 on July 2. His initial contract called for an additional $500,000 payment if he declined to attend the NFL combine and made a written commitment to baseball before Feb. 10. His new deal is contingent on him passing a physical.

Clarification: The total of the two deals is worth $1.5 million, Szczur's original $100,000 bonus and an additional $1.4 million payment.

Szczur led Villanova to the 2009 NCAA Football Championship Subdivision title, winning MVP honors in the final game with 270 all-purpose yards and two touchdowns. He made additional headlines last May, when he took time out of his baseball season to donate peripheral blood cells to a 1-year-old girl fighting leukemia (Aaron Fitt covered that story in detail here .) After missing three weeks, he homered in his first at-bat back.

The Cubs fell in love with Szczur's hitting ability, athleticism and makeup and drafted him in the fifth round last June. He began his pro career with a 21-game hitting streak and batted .347/.414/.465 overall in 25 games before returning to Villanova for his senior year of football. Though he missed time during the regular season with a high ankle sprain, he accounted for five touchdowns in a quarterfinal playoff game before the Wildcats were eliminated in the next round.

Though Chicago has little to show for its last big investment in a star wide receiver—Jeff Samardzija has gone 4-5, 5.95 in 53 big league games after landing a $10 million major league contract in 2008—Szczur's tools may translate better to baseball. His hitting skills could make him a special player.

Szczur has a knack for barreling balls, which combined with his top-of-the-scale speed will allow him to hit for high averages. He has hit some 400-foot bombs in batting practice, and once he gets more coaching and learns to finish through the ball better, he could have average or better power. He's still refining his basestealing and baserunning, but his speed alone makes him a threat. Villanova football coach Andy Talley says Szczur is his fastest player ever, ahead of star NFL running back Brian Westbrook.

In his short time in pro ball, Szczur's center-field play and his throwing made significant strides. He'll have plus-plus range once he improves his jumps, and his arm strength rated as average after he loosened up and lost some of his football tightness. His competitiveness and work ethic are impeccable.

As a slot receiver/return specialist, Szczur projected as a mid-round pick in the NFL draft in April. He had been planning on attending the Senior Bowl, an all-star game for NFL draft prospects, before the Cubs signed him away from football. Based on his tools and performance, he easily could have been a first-round pick in the 2011 baseball draft had he been eligible.


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 Post subject: Re: Colvin
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immessedup17 wrote:
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Based on his tools and performance, he easily could have been a first-round pick in the 2011 baseball draft had he been eligible.


http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/dra ... 5-million/

Jim Callis wrote the article...if you still wanted to try to diminish the source.

Yeah I found that

Why would you cite cubbiecrib then?

Why would I even read anything from Cubbiecrib?


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 Post subject: Re: Colvin
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immessedup17 wrote:
Nice try.

How many times must you fail before you give up for the day? You're just mailing it in...might as well call it a day and save yourself for tomorrow.

I dont know what your talking about

Cubbiecrib is not a good source. Thats a fact.


I never even disagreed with your assessment. I just said I didnt see it.

Youre pretty defensive


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 Post subject: Re: Colvin
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immessedup17 wrote:
Nice try.

How many times must you fail before you give up for the day? You're just mailing it in...might as well call it a day and save yourself for tomorrow.

edit: I cited the article that I read. I hadn't read the Jim Callis article at that time.

edit2: RPB fell in line. Keyser,, your turn.

So, your source was Cubbiecrib then?


Why would I or anyone take anything said there to mean anything?


And you presented it like it was common knowlledge and this kid was a sure fire first rounder if not for football.

Also, your one source short of this being legit


Oh and youre kinda arrogant for someone who is wrong as much as anyone else here.


Maybe youll grow out of that


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 Post subject: Re: Colvin
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immessedup17 wrote:
Cubbiecrib wasn't the source. Cubbiecrib referenced the source. It clearly cites Baseball America as the source of the information. I cited the article I read. This is all clear.

Do you need to retake writing courses, perhaps?

Oh so you havent read your source?

Got it.


Ok well you keep keepin on dude.


EDIT: CubbieCrib was YOUR source. Their source was Baseball America. Writing Course? Really? So when you wrote papers in college did you cite books that said other books contained certain information prudent to the topic? Or did you just site the legit source?


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 Post subject: Re: Colvin
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When Colvin shows signs of All Star threat, I can give him a regular job.

The fact Hendry finally produced a guy worthy of playing in the majors, should not be reason for celebration!

250, 25 HR's...OK fine....but this is not a winning team's corner man!

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