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So he's a "prospect." Obviously we should be judging him on his signing bonus instead.


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i just have no faith in hendry to move this team forward, hendry/wilken took hayden simpson in the first round, and everything i have read says that was a huge reach..most scouts had him going anywhere from the late 2nd to 4th round.. we can all agree simaridja blows and was an awful pick..vitters ? eh we shall see does not look good thus far... like kaiser said ,a top prospect will move quick through the system if he has the talent.

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Simpson struck out 7 in 3 1/3 yesterday for the Chiefs. Didn't play last year cause of mono. Off to a good start.


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should see him move up quick..if wilkin/spendry are correct in comparing him to lincecum/oswalt

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should see him move up quick..if wilkin/spendry are correct in comparing him to lincecum/oswalt



source for this?

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312player wrote:
should see him move up quick..if wilkin/spendry are correct in comparing him to lincecum/oswalt



source for this?

Can you cite insanity?

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I do remember hearing the phrase "easy to sign" used often with Simpson. Hopefully that wasn't the main reason. I do not remember Simpson being compared to Lincecum or Oswalt by anyone in the Cubs organization. There's probably a reason for that.

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Simpson With First Round Pick
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The Chicago Cubs have a history of reaching for draft picks in the first round. They did so again this season when they took Hayden Simpson, expected to be a second to fifth round pick, with the 16th pick of the first round.

Hayden went 13-1 in 15 starts for the South Arkansas Muleriders during his junior season. He also had a 1.81 ERA and struck out 131 batters compared to just 35 walks in 99 and a third innings.

Cubs scouting director Tim Wilken compared Simpson to major league stars Tim Lincecum and Roy Oswalt, which is big praise for D-ll pitcher.

"I feel Hayden is potentially a major league starter," Wilken said. "He has four above-average to plus-pitches. He's a very athletic pitcher, and he has a good feel for pitching. We had really good reports and very good coverage on Simpson."

Despite the high praise given to him from within the Cubs organization, however, he hasn't been recognized by those around the league as a talent worthy of being taken this high.

As you can see from the picture above, they had to make a name plate for him on the spot, and MLB.com didn't have a draft report when he was drafted.

Simpson was also ranked 191st by Baseball America, but so was Tyler Colvin in 2006 when he was ranked near the tail end of Baseball America's Top 200—Colvin is now producing in the majors for the Cubs.

Another Cub who was taken higher than expected was Andrew Cashner in 2008. Cashner is now three appearances into his major league career and has yet to allow a run.

Simpson is a pitcher with a fastball in the mid-90's, a solid curveball, slider, and circle-change that a very good speed differential from his fastball.

It has also been reported that a team with a pick soon after the Cubs was taking a serious look at Simpson for their first round pick, so Wilken may not have been the only one who felt he was worth a first round selection.

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C. L. posted 10 months ago
The Cubs are lucky to get Hayden Simpson. If they didnt pick him up at 16 then he would have gone no later than 30th overall to the Angels. He is a first round talent no doubt. I dont care what Baseball America says, he is not even close to the 191st best pitcher in the nation right now.. More like top 15-20, they had him there because they didnt do their homework on DII talent but saw that he was putting up big numbers. I've been watching him throw for two years now and the kid is amazing. Ive seen his fastball top out at 97 with pin point accuracy and he has an array of off-speed to go with it that few can match. The dude is legit.

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I have to agree. Wilken has done a great job of finding talent where people weren't expecting there to be any, just like he did with Colvin and Cashner. I'm a huge fan of Wilken and after reading up on Simpson, I think he is going to be a solid starter for us. I'm actually very excited about the Cubs future, they have a lot of good young talent in their farm system and they have a lot of people with high ceilings.

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I have to agree. Wilken has done a great job of finding talent where people weren't expecting there to be any, just like he did with Colvin and Cashner. I'm a huge fan of Wilken and after reading up on Simpson, I think he is going to be a solid starter for us. I'm actually very excited about the Cubs future, they have a lot of good young talent in their farm system and they have a lot of people with high ceilings.

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and I was wrong............

Wow. I don't think Simpson thinks he'll be Lincecum or Oswalt.

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Cubs scouting director Tim Wilken compared Simpson to major league stars Tim Lincecum and Roy Oswalt, which is big praise for D-ll pitcher.

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and I was wrong............

Wow. I don't think Simpson thinks he'll be Lincecum or Oswalt.

I think he will be substantially better than either of them.

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:lol: and i am the insane one?

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:lol: and i am the insane one?


Nobody called you insane. At least not in this thread. :D Just that statement. You were asked to cite that ridiculous statement, and you delivered. Well played Mauer. I still think Tim Wilken is the goods.

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nah man i am not sensitive, was just messin...hope u are right about wilkin..hope he is right about oswalt/lincecum comparison..but we will know soon..oswalt and lincecum did not spend much time in the minors

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Thanks 312.

I'm searching for an actual quote that says Wilken compared Simpson to either one of those guys, but I'll admit what you produced was far more than I thought would be out there.

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Why did Baseball America have him so low, was it just because he pitched D2? If he has 4 above average pitches, why was his selection a shock?

If he is being compared to Oswalt and Lincecum, is Simpson a small guy?


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So the guy who drafted him said he reminded him of two of the best pitchers in baseball. I'm positively shocked he didn't say he was reminded of Bob Scanlan and Jim Bullinger.


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that was not the article i was looking for.. the one i read was long time ago and written by a local guy from either the trib..or suntimes.. and simpson is shorter than most pitchers yes..he is five foot 11 inches but listed 6 foot

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Im with Keyser (which feels weird)

But of course they compared them to Ozwalt and Lincecum. Thats what people do with draft picks.

It means absolutely nothing


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Didn't the Cubs draft Lincecum originally out of high school, but he didn't sign?


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not sure, but sounds possible..if his old man is his coach/agent, he probably would have said nah..wait a year or 2 and get drafted in the top 20

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Didn't the Cubs draft Lincecum originally out of high school, but he didn't sign?

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Vitters getting the start at 1B for the Smokies tonight :shock:
1-2 with a 2 rbi triple so far

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Vitters getting the start at 1B for the Smokies tonight :shock:
1-2 with a 2 rbi triple so far


They don't think he has the defensive prowess to play 3B so they are moving him to 1st where he could do less damage.


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AA Smokies
Brett Jackson was 2-4 today with a bomb
Vitters had the day off yesterday which is kinda odd....1-5 with a rbi today
McNutt pitched today but only lasted 2.2, however he didn't give up any runs or hits.
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Mathes started and was average at best....Caridad and Berg gave up runs out of the pen and Gaub had a scoreless 1 and 2/3 for the save.

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It appears as though Ramon Ortiz is now an I-Cub.

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It appears as though Ramon Ortiz is now an I-Cub.

How the shit is he still around?



whats funny is, we actually were the ones at the time that ended his career

we kicked the shit out of him and he got cut the next day by Houston (last year or year before)...or he retired or something...cant remember...i just remember thinking we ended his career

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Vitters!! with a 2 run bomb
Brett Jackson 1-1 with a walk

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Ramon Ortiz has a no hitter going :shock:










through 1 inning

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