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PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2011 1:01 pm 
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My Grandma's dog peed on the Ultimate Warrior Wrestling Buddy. That was a smart Terrier.

It's been fun talking to people about Savage who actually grew up, and don't watch wrestling. It's amazing the impact he had on the yut of the 80's.

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Indeed, I enjoy the wrestling geek debate on if Savage-Steamboat WMIII or Savage-Warrior WMVII was Savage's best match. Is a having a 5* match against one of the best wrestlers of a generation as impressive as getting a 5* match out of an average at best in-ring performer like The Ultimate Warrior?


Both matches were great, but I would say that Steamboat and Savage was the best match. It is not just Savage's best match, but one of the greatest matches all time.

Warrior and Savage was the greatest match Warrior ever had. But that is what makes guys like Savage so great is they can get in the ring and have a great match with a broomstick. There was nothing that Savage could not do.

He was one of the first guys in wrestling that I truly hated as a kid. When he hit Steamboat with the timekeeper's bell I thought I was going to be sick I was so upset. Then as I got older I was able to look back and see that was part of the reason he was so great. He captivated the audience and got you to respond to everything he did.

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Can't believe he died but in the world of Pro Wrasslin' nothing should surprise me. I was shocked to read about Ms. Elizabeth passing on,too.

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The build up, the story arc, the length, the amount of nearfalls and the venue make Steamboat-Savage the easy call for me.


Warrior Savage was cool to me, because each guy kept kicking out of the others finisher. Other than the suspense aspect, I dont remember it being all that great.


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I went to Wrestlemania II at the Rosemant Horizon in '86. At least I think it was number two. Anyway, we had seats on the first row of the second section. There was this annoying little balck guy ringside, who had a shirt made up with Crotcho Man ironed on the front and back.
I don't seem to remember the Macho Man being a part of the show, but I digress. He spent the whole show running back and forth, annoying the participants. He was a hoot. I think it was Ronnie Woo Woo, although I have never been able to verify my suspicions.

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Vince had the brilliant idea to have WM at 3 different locations that year. Macho was busy battling everybody's favorite green tongued English teacher George the Animal at the Nassau Coliseum.


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Mr. Reason wrote:
I went to Wrestlemania II at the Rosemant Horizon in '86. At least I think it was number two. Anyway, we had seats on the first row of the second section. There was this annoying little balck guy ringside, who had a shirt made up with Crotcho Man ironed on the front and back.
I don't seem to remember the Macho Man being a part of the show, but I digress. He spent the whole show running back and forth, annoying the participants. He was a hoot. I think it was Ronnie Woo Woo, although I have never been able to verify my suspicions.


That was no Ronnie it was OKC

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Savage was an icon. Best promo guy in the '80s. Better than Piper, better than Hogan. More athletic than them, too.

I really wonder what Hogan has to say about Savage's passing, haven't seen anything on it yet.


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Colonel Angus wrote:
Savage was an icon. Best promo guy in the '80s. Better than Piper, better than Hogan. More athletic than them, too.

I really wonder what Hogan has to say about Savage's passing, haven't seen anything on it yet.

Hogan wasn't a dick for a change
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"I'm completely devastated, after over 10 years of not talking with Randy, we've finally started to talk and communicate."

"He had so much life in his eyes & in his spirit, I just pray that he's happy and in a better place and we miss him."

"We miss him a lot. I feel horrible about the ten years of having no communication. This was a tough one."


  


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Savage was great on promos, but I am not sure he was better than Piper. But it was close.

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Former TNA X Division Champion Jay Lethal wrote the following tribute to the late Randy Savage. Lethal received Savage's blessings a few years back to perform as "Black Machismo" in TNA.

"You inspired me more than this world will ever know. Enjoy.

You were a tower of power that was too sweet to be sour,

You were funky like a monkey every minute of every hour.

For you, space was the place and time distortion had to be,

And your fans here on earth wanted the madness for eternity.

You met every challenge with fists clinched and face to face,

You even fought and defeats dragons and snakes.

Flying off the ropes with an elbow drop,

There was no way you could ever be stopped.

Identifiable by your voice alone,

Even being Dubbed the macho king while you sat on your throne.

We hung on your words with interviews memorable and classic,

And we knew it was serious when you took off your glasses.

I promise not to lose you in the sands of time,

For you will always be that all time hero of mine."

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OKC, kind of surprised we have not heard from you on Macho Man?

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I want a one time only Black Machismo appearance at the next ROH ppv.

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Good article, and I didn't know all of this:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/w ... t=hp_wr_a1

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Bill Simmons just wrote a tribute column. Before i read it I can honestly say his death didn't effect me any more than some other random famous dude. Now I actually feel genuinely sad this happened.

I fully understand the criticisms of Simmons but this is a good example of his exceptional talent to have the above effect on a subject.

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He's usually ok as long as he's not talking about the Pats, Celtics, or Red Sox.


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I could never decide if Macho Man was in on the joke. I'm also not sure it mattered."

I really have no idea how relevant this statement within that given paragraph is when it comes to amtrue wrestling fans perspective. I really have never come close to caring about even having a somewhat serious conversation about pro wrestling, But it, along with the Birdman/freshman in college anecdote is a very simply, effective way of explaining my previous post and a great example of great "sports" writing today as long as we aren't holding everyone to Grantland Rice criteria

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He's usually ok as long as he's not talking about the Pats, Celtics, or Red Sox.

Yeah he was good that day.


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R.I.P. Macho Man


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Great couple of promos here following Macho Man's victory over Ric Flair at WM. You get Mr. Perfect, Flair, Heenan and Macho Man.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlBcsC1v8wA


good call one of my all time favorites. 4 of the all time best in one segment.

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Here is a bunch more media on Randy Savage. You will have to cut and paste these links. sorry if some are repeats. I've read or watched all of these and they're all good or great.

-- Dave Meltzer has a story on Savage for Yahoo.com here: sports.yahoo.com/mma/news?slug=dm-meltzer_wrestling_star_savage_remembered_051911

-- Good ol JR looks at Savage's career here: jrsbarbq.com/blog/randy-savage-dead-58thoughts-true-superstar

-- Lance Storm looks at the Macho Man here. He talks about Savage being one of the guys that got him into wrestling as a fan way back when, and also tells an awesome story about some advice Savage gave him one night at a Smokey Mountain house show when he mistook Lance for Chris Candido:
stormwrestling.com/052011.html , there are also a few follow ups from Lance.

-- A pretty awesome early-80s Macho Man video is up here: youtube.com/watch?v=1E7Ch4Gw-Kk&feature=share
(featuring a mustachioed rock n roll express)

-- An older Macho Man interview here where he discusses, among things, deaths of wrestling friends. :
cyinterview.com/2011/05/archived-gold-chris-yandek’s-interview-with-“macho-man”-randy-savage-on-death-the-pro-wrestling-lifestyle-miss-elizabeth-and-much-more/


VIDEO: A touching tribute to Macho Man by the former Ultimate Warrior
f4wonline.com/content/view/20732/105/

VIDEO: DDP talks Randy Savage and what he meant for his career
f4wonline.com/content/view/20731/105/

VIDEO: The Macho Man tribute video from Raw
f4wonline.com/content/view/20745/

VIDEO: IGN shoot interview with Randy Savage (this is the only shoot interview i've seen with macho)
f4wonline.com/content/view/20686/105/

-- An awesome SI story on Randy Savage is up here. sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/the_bonus/05/23/macho.man/index.html?eref=sihp&sct=hp_t12_a1
(VERY GOOD ARTICLE)

-- Bill Simmons tribute to Macho here
sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/110524


-- Dave Meltzer talks the death of the Macho Man on TSN radio here
watch.tsn.ca/tsnradio/#clip470995

May 20 Observer Radio: Dave, Bryan, Larry Matysik talk the life and times of Randy Savage
Wrestling Observer Radio with Dave Meltzer and Bryan Alvarez is back today with a breaking news audio on the death of one of the biggest wrestling stars of all time, Macho Man Randy Savage. We'll talk the circumstances of his death, his life and times, and then Larry Matysik joins us to give some exclusive insight into his early career. A packed show so check it out.
(Pretty good, Larry had known Randy since 1970).

sendspace.com/file/63b39b
next to dload red arrow at bottom.

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I could never decide if Macho Man was in on the joke. I'm also not sure it mattered."

I really have no idea how relevant this statement within that given paragraph is when it comes to amtrue wrestling fans perspective. I really have never come close to caring about even having a somewhat serious conversation about pro wrestling, But it, along with the Birdman/freshman in college anecdote is a very simply, effective way of explaining my previous post and a great example of great "sports" writing today as long as we aren't holding everyone to Grantland Rice criteria


i read the article. i agree, it was very heartfelt and the anecdote was really what stuck with me. i still roll my eyes at the sports comparisons he does (this was the lakers/celtics of...) because it just gets old and predictable.

but as far as justifying himself, AND giving credit to someone who was a superstar for that sprot, the article was spot on. and his line about macho man being the 80's was perfect.


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