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PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2011 8:40 am 
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This series is over. Even if they win game 4 there is no way that the Bulls can match the Heat's crunch time level of play. Deng disappears too much. Rose can't do it on his own but he's not playing well. Boozer is putting in a good effort but whether by injury or being old he can't finish good enough at the rim. Taj Gibson is not ready to be a consistent contributor. Asik mattering is a big problem. He's not that good. I was cringing every time he touched the ball yesterday. Noah's "try hard" matters less in the playoffs because others try harder.

3 superstars beats 1 superstar every time. The Bulls need to find a second guy and if they have to give up something on defense so be it.

Let me add on that Miami has also adjusted well defensively and have seemingly found an answer to Derrick Rose. If he can't penetrate, he can't be effective. They have all but completely taken that option away from him and at times he looks completely out of control trying to force his way inside. There is no "draw and kick" because the paint is completely sealed off to him. And they still don't have a legit low-post scorer, so that's not an option either.

My question: What would it take to get Dwight Howard here?

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I'm not giving up on the series. The Bulls are too good. Miami is a good team, a great team...the series was always going to be difficult.

True, it was always gonna be a difficult series but I'd be more encouraged by seeing a little more back and forth. It seems to me that since Game 1, the Bulls have constantly been battling from behind. Watching the games, even a 4 or 5-point deficit seems insurmountable.

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It seems to me that since Game 1, the Bulls have constantly been battling from behind. Watching the games, even a 4 or 5-point deficit seems insurmountable.

That's spot on.

This team hangs around all game, then when crunch time hits, Miami has just been pulling away. I'm not abandoning ship yet, but Game 4 is an absolute must win. Thibs better have some shit in the playbook he hasn't used yet.

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It seems to me that since Game 1, the Bulls have constantly been battling from behind. Watching the games, even a 4 or 5-point deficit seems insurmountable.

That's spot on.

This team hangs around all game, then when crunch time hits, Miami has just been pulling away. I'm not abandoning ship yet, but Game 4 is an absolute must win. Thibs better have some shit in the playbook he hasn't used yet.

Rebound the ball, make shots, play better defense. Bulls probably will not win games giving up 90 plus against this team, they are really being exposed with their zero offense from the 2 guard spot too. Its definitley not looking good.

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Let me add on that Miami has also adjusted well defensively and have seemingly found an answer to Derrick Rose. If he can't penetrate, he can't be effective. They have all but completely taken that option away from him and at times he looks completely out of control trying to force his way inside. There is no "draw and kick" because the paint is completely sealed off to him. And they still don't have a legit low-post scorer, so that's not an option either.
That's true. Deng and Korver have also made life difficult for Rose. If they were better able to hurt Miami for concentrating on Rose a lot would open up for him.

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Yes, we should all criticize Deng for his play in this series. He is definitely the reason the Bulls haven't done so well.

Your NBA thoughts are improving. :D

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the Bulls have been a joke all season and people bought into it

a mirror image of the Bears season...really not that good but somehow found themselves in an advantageous position in the playoffs

Bulls had to play nobody in the playoffs until now...they have no business being a #1 seed and with homecourt...Rose still hasnt proven himself as a playoff winner in my book...whenever theyve won in the playoffs, its because thibs prodded Boozer, Noah, and Deng to be better...Rose is not good enough to do it on his own because he is not big enough, and his jump shot is inconsistent...that shouldnt be a surprise to anyone...his sucess this year was a result of hard work and renewed dedication, but eventually talentwise u will always fall back to what you have been the last few years (although u do allow him a certain amount of progression being a young player, just not the type he showed this year to where he thinks he's some superstar stud)

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the Bulls have been a joke all season and people bought into it

a mirror image of the Bears season...really not that good but somehow found themselves in an advantageous position in the playoffs

Bulls had to play nobody in the playoffs until now...they have no business being a #1 seed and with homecourt...Rose still hasnt proven himself as a playoff winner in my book...whenever theyve won in the playoffs, its because thibs prodded Boozer, Noah, and Deng to be better...Rose is not good enough to do it on his own because he is not big enough, and his jump shot is inconsistent...that shouldnt be a surprise to anyone...his sucess this year was a result of hard work and renewed dedication, but eventually talentwise u will always fall back to what you have been the last few years (although u do allow him a certain amount of progression being a young player, just not the type he showed this year to where he thinks he's some superstar stud)

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how bout I dont post until the Heat win 2 more games...at that point Ill say "I told u so"

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i dont know about all yall, but im tired of having NO GOD DAMN FUCKIN CLUE as to which bulls team im watching in any given quarter. our bench has been more consistent then our starters and im sick of it.

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how bout I dont post until the Heat win 2 more games...at that point Ill say "I told u so"


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the Bulls have been a joke all season and people bought into it

a mirror image of the Bears season...really not that good but somehow found themselves in an advantageous position in the playoffs

Bulls had to play nobody in the playoffs until now...they have no business being a #1 seed and with homecourt...Rose still hasnt proven himself as a playoff winner in my book...whenever theyve won in the playoffs, its because thibs prodded Boozer, Noah, and Deng to be better...Rose is not good enough to do it on his own because he is not big enough, and his jump shot is inconsistent...that shouldnt be a surprise to anyone...his sucess this year was a result of hard work and renewed dedication, but eventually talentwise u will always fall back to what you have been the last few years (although u do allow him a certain amount of progression being a young player, just not the type he showed this year to where he thinks he's some superstar stud)

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I'm not really surprised that many of you have given up on the Bulls after 2 losses. The Bulls will be fine. They've played some of their worst basketball the past couple of games and Miami isn't really responsible for their bad play. They're missing a lot of easy shots and Noah has been struggling to stay out of foul trouble. I think this team responds well when their backs are against the wall. I like what the Bulls did with Boozer last game. Going forward I think that will help Rose save some energy going into the 4th quarter. Rose will play better too. Bulls will win the next 3 games. I'm willing to make a signature or avatar wager for any of the doubters out there.

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I'm not really surprised that many of you have given up on the Bulls after 2 losses. The Bulls will be fine. They've played some of their worst basketball the past couple of games and Miami isn't really responsible for their bad play. They're missing a lot of easy shots and Noah has been struggling to stay out of foul trouble. I think this team responds well when their backs are against the wall. I like what the Bulls did with Boozer last game. Going forward I think that will help Rose save some energy going into the 4th quarter. Rose will play better too. Bulls will win the next 3 games. I'm willing to make a signature or avatar wager for any of the doubters out there.

HOV, you're my dude but c'mon...you can't be serious man. You've watched enough ball to know what an overmatched team looks like.

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I think Asik getting out of the rotation may help the Bulls. While he can be an asset on the defensive end he is mostly a liability on offense. Having Gibson on the court in his place really changes things. It gives the Bulls another scoring option. Gibson can guard anyone on Miami's front line too. Noah staying out of foul trouble also makes that a little easier.

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I'm not opposed to getting Kurt Thomas some minutes either. He showed he could still go during the 2nd half of the regular season and in the Pacers series.

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I'm not really surprised that many of you have given up on the Bulls after 2 losses. The Bulls will be fine. They've played some of their worst basketball the past couple of games and Miami isn't really responsible for their bad play. They're missing a lot of easy shots and Noah has been struggling to stay out of foul trouble. I think this team responds well when their backs are against the wall. I like what the Bulls did with Boozer last game. Going forward I think that will help Rose save some energy going into the 4th quarter. Rose will play better too. Bulls will win the next 3 games. I'm willing to make a signature or avatar wager for any of the doubters out there.

HOV, you're my dude but c'mon...you can't be serious man. You've watched enough ball to know what an overmatched team looks like.


They're not. They've played like shit for 7 of the last 8 quarters and the games have been close. They've missed a ton of easy shots. If they were getting blown out I would understand your point. Bosh has scored 30 points twice in this series and he had only scored 30 points 3 times during the season. Noah leaving the game with foul trouble helped to get him going. The Bulls scoring only 2 points in the last 7 mins of Game 2 had more to do with them being bad than Miami stopping them.

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I'm not opposed to getting Kurt Thomas some minutes either. He showed he could still go during the 2nd half of the regular season and in the Pacers series.

Big Sexy needs to goon it up. Knock Bosh on his ass.

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I'm not really surprised that many of you have given up on the Bulls after 2 losses. The Bulls will be fine. They've played some of their worst basketball the past couple of games and Miami isn't really responsible for their bad play. They're missing a lot of easy shots and Noah has been struggling to stay out of foul trouble. I think this team responds well when their backs are against the wall. I like what the Bulls did with Boozer last game. Going forward I think that will help Rose save some energy going into the 4th quarter. Rose will play better too. Bulls will win the next 3 games. I'm willing to make a signature or avatar wager for any of the doubters out there.

HOV, you're my dude but c'mon...you can't be serious man. You've watched enough ball to know what an overmatched team looks like.


They're not. They've played like shit for 7 of the last 8 quarters and the games have been close. They've missed a ton of easy shots. If they were getting blown out I would understand your point. Bosh has scored 30 points twice in this series and he had only scored 30 points 3 times during the season. Noah leaving the game with foul trouble helped to get him going. The Bulls scoring only 2 points in the last 7 mins of Game 2 had more to do with them being bad than Miami stopping them.

Well for a team that has very little to do with stopping their opponents, they sure are very lucky that in the last 2 series that they've played, the Celtics and Bulls have decided to go cold at very opportune times in the 4th quarter of close games and allowed the Heat to win going away.

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The Bulls are shooting 37% the past 2 games and Miami is shooting almost 50%. The fact that these games have been close is very encouraging. I don't expect the Bulls to shoot under 45% the rest of the series. We all know Miami can get overconfident too. I believe that will play a roll int he Bulls winning the next 3.

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I don't expect the Bulls to shoot under 45% the rest of the series.

They very well could though. I don't really know what else Thibodeau could possible have up his sleeve offensively to counter what Miami expects from them. If Rose comes out hot, they'll win. But Miami won't let him get off like he did in Game 1. They have his number defensively.

Your optimism is encouraging though.

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Well for a team that has very little to do with stopping their opponents, they sure are very lucky that in the last 2 series that they've played, the Celtics and Bulls have decided to go cold at very opportune times in the 4th quarter of close games and allowed the Heat to win going away.


I don't credit a defense when the other team misses open shots and layups. The Heat have shot great from the field and they've have the edge at the line and are barely winning these games. They've executed better down the stretch on offense but looking at the numbers it shouldn't even be close. Like I said I'm willing to make a wager.

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The Bulls are shooting 37% the past 2 games and Miami is shooting almost 50%. The fact that these games have been close is very encouraging. I don't expect the Bulls to shoot under 45% the rest of the series. We all know Miami can get overconfident too. I believe that will play a roll int he Bulls winning the next 3.

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I don't expect the Bulls to shoot under 45% the rest of the series.

They very well could though. I don't really know what else Thibodeau could possible have up his sleeve offensively to counter what Miami expects from them. If Rose comes out hot, they'll win. But Miami won't let him get off like he did in Game 1. They have his number defensively.

Your optimism is encouraging though.


When you're playing bad and you still had a great chance to win that has to be a little encouraging and frustrating. Not having 3 or 4 days off will only help.

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i agree. i think that "week" off between games 2 and 3 REALLY helped miami... YES your stars CAN play 48min a night if they have a vacation between every game...

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i agree. i think that "week" off between games 2 and 3 REALLY helped miami... YES your stars CAN play 48min a night if they have a vacation between every game...


It's easier for guys like Haslem to bounce back too.

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I'm not really surprised that many of you have given up on the Bulls after 2 losses. The Bulls will be fine. They've played some of their worst basketball the past couple of games and Miami isn't really responsible for their bad play. They're missing a lot of easy shots and Noah has been struggling to stay out of foul trouble. I think this team responds well when their backs are against the wall. I like what the Bulls did with Boozer last game. Going forward I think that will help Rose save some energy going into the 4th quarter. Rose will play better too. Bulls will win the next 3 games. I'm willing to make a signature or avatar wager for any of the doubters out there.

Bold statement. And I hope you're right. I'll wager dollars if interested...


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I'm not really surprised that many of you have given up on the Bulls after 2 losses. The Bulls will be fine. They've played some of their worst basketball the past couple of games and Miami isn't really responsible for their bad play. They're missing a lot of easy shots and Noah has been struggling to stay out of foul trouble. I think this team responds well when their backs are against the wall. I like what the Bulls did with Boozer last game. Going forward I think that will help Rose save some energy going into the 4th quarter. Rose will play better too. Bulls will win the next 3 games. I'm willing to make a signature or avatar wager for any of the doubters out there.

Bold statement. And I hope you're right. I'll wager dollars if interested...


What type of odds are you giving me? I'm always open to considering these types of things. I would prefer to keep it to a signature or avatar wager.

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HOV, you're my dude but c'mon...you can't be serious man. You've watched enough ball to know what an overmatched team looks like.


You also claimed they were overmatched vs. the Pacers and the Hawks. So maybe you are the one who does not know what an overmatched team looks like?

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