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the Bulls have been a joke all season and people bought into it

a mirror image of the Bears season...really not that good but somehow found themselves in an advantageous position in the playoffs

Bulls had to play nobody in the playoffs until now...they have no business being a #1 seed and with homecourt...Rose still hasnt proven himself as a playoff winner in my book...whenever theyve won in the playoffs, its because thibs prodded Boozer, Noah, and Deng to be better...Rose is not good enough to do it on his own because he is not big enough, and his jump shot is inconsistent...that shouldnt be a surprise to anyone...his sucess this year was a result of hard work and renewed dedication, but eventually talentwise u will always fall back to what you have been the last few years (although u do allow him a certain amount of progression being a young player, just not the type he showed this year to where he thinks he's some superstar stud)

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I'm not really surprised that many of you have given up on the Bulls after 2 losses. The Bulls will be fine. They've played some of their worst basketball the past couple of games and Miami isn't really responsible for their bad play. They're missing a lot of easy shots and Noah has been struggling to stay out of foul trouble. I think this team responds well when their backs are against the wall. I like what the Bulls did with Boozer last game. Going forward I think that will help Rose save some energy going into the 4th quarter. Rose will play better too. Bulls will win the next 3 games. I'm willing to make a signature or avatar wager for any of the doubters out there.

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I'm not really surprised that many of you have given up on the Bulls after 2 losses. The Bulls will be fine. They've played some of their worst basketball the past couple of games and Miami isn't really responsible for their bad play. They're missing a lot of easy shots and Noah has been struggling to stay out of foul trouble. I think this team responds well when their backs are against the wall. I like what the Bulls did with Boozer last game. Going forward I think that will help Rose save some energy going into the 4th quarter. Rose will play better too. Bulls will win the next 3 games. I'm willing to make a signature or avatar wager for any of the doubters out there.

HOV, you're my dude but c'mon...you can't be serious man. You've watched enough ball to know what an overmatched team looks like.

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I think Asik getting out of the rotation may help the Bulls. While he can be an asset on the defensive end he is mostly a liability on offense. Having Gibson on the court in his place really changes things. It gives the Bulls another scoring option. Gibson can guard anyone on Miami's front line too. Noah staying out of foul trouble also makes that a little easier.

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I'm not opposed to getting Kurt Thomas some minutes either. He showed he could still go during the 2nd half of the regular season and in the Pacers series.

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I'm not really surprised that many of you have given up on the Bulls after 2 losses. The Bulls will be fine. They've played some of their worst basketball the past couple of games and Miami isn't really responsible for their bad play. They're missing a lot of easy shots and Noah has been struggling to stay out of foul trouble. I think this team responds well when their backs are against the wall. I like what the Bulls did with Boozer last game. Going forward I think that will help Rose save some energy going into the 4th quarter. Rose will play better too. Bulls will win the next 3 games. I'm willing to make a signature or avatar wager for any of the doubters out there.

HOV, you're my dude but c'mon...you can't be serious man. You've watched enough ball to know what an overmatched team looks like.


They're not. They've played like shit for 7 of the last 8 quarters and the games have been close. They've missed a ton of easy shots. If they were getting blown out I would understand your point. Bosh has scored 30 points twice in this series and he had only scored 30 points 3 times during the season. Noah leaving the game with foul trouble helped to get him going. The Bulls scoring only 2 points in the last 7 mins of Game 2 had more to do with them being bad than Miami stopping them.

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I'm not opposed to getting Kurt Thomas some minutes either. He showed he could still go during the 2nd half of the regular season and in the Pacers series.

Big Sexy needs to goon it up. Knock Bosh on his ass.

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I'm not really surprised that many of you have given up on the Bulls after 2 losses. The Bulls will be fine. They've played some of their worst basketball the past couple of games and Miami isn't really responsible for their bad play. They're missing a lot of easy shots and Noah has been struggling to stay out of foul trouble. I think this team responds well when their backs are against the wall. I like what the Bulls did with Boozer last game. Going forward I think that will help Rose save some energy going into the 4th quarter. Rose will play better too. Bulls will win the next 3 games. I'm willing to make a signature or avatar wager for any of the doubters out there.

HOV, you're my dude but c'mon...you can't be serious man. You've watched enough ball to know what an overmatched team looks like.


They're not. They've played like shit for 7 of the last 8 quarters and the games have been close. They've missed a ton of easy shots. If they were getting blown out I would understand your point. Bosh has scored 30 points twice in this series and he had only scored 30 points 3 times during the season. Noah leaving the game with foul trouble helped to get him going. The Bulls scoring only 2 points in the last 7 mins of Game 2 had more to do with them being bad than Miami stopping them.

Well for a team that has very little to do with stopping their opponents, they sure are very lucky that in the last 2 series that they've played, the Celtics and Bulls have decided to go cold at very opportune times in the 4th quarter of close games and allowed the Heat to win going away.

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The Bulls are shooting 37% the past 2 games and Miami is shooting almost 50%. The fact that these games have been close is very encouraging. I don't expect the Bulls to shoot under 45% the rest of the series. We all know Miami can get overconfident too. I believe that will play a roll int he Bulls winning the next 3.

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I don't expect the Bulls to shoot under 45% the rest of the series.

They very well could though. I don't really know what else Thibodeau could possible have up his sleeve offensively to counter what Miami expects from them. If Rose comes out hot, they'll win. But Miami won't let him get off like he did in Game 1. They have his number defensively.

Your optimism is encouraging though.

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Well for a team that has very little to do with stopping their opponents, they sure are very lucky that in the last 2 series that they've played, the Celtics and Bulls have decided to go cold at very opportune times in the 4th quarter of close games and allowed the Heat to win going away.


I don't credit a defense when the other team misses open shots and layups. The Heat have shot great from the field and they've have the edge at the line and are barely winning these games. They've executed better down the stretch on offense but looking at the numbers it shouldn't even be close. Like I said I'm willing to make a wager.

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The Bulls are shooting 37% the past 2 games and Miami is shooting almost 50%. The fact that these games have been close is very encouraging. I don't expect the Bulls to shoot under 45% the rest of the series. We all know Miami can get overconfident too. I believe that will play a roll int he Bulls winning the next 3.

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I don't expect the Bulls to shoot under 45% the rest of the series.

They very well could though. I don't really know what else Thibodeau could possible have up his sleeve offensively to counter what Miami expects from them. If Rose comes out hot, they'll win. But Miami won't let him get off like he did in Game 1. They have his number defensively.

Your optimism is encouraging though.


When you're playing bad and you still had a great chance to win that has to be a little encouraging and frustrating. Not having 3 or 4 days off will only help.

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i agree. i think that "week" off between games 2 and 3 REALLY helped miami... YES your stars CAN play 48min a night if they have a vacation between every game...

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IkeSouth wrote:
i agree. i think that "week" off between games 2 and 3 REALLY helped miami... YES your stars CAN play 48min a night if they have a vacation between every game...


It's easier for guys like Haslem to bounce back too.

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HOVA wrote:
I'm not really surprised that many of you have given up on the Bulls after 2 losses. The Bulls will be fine. They've played some of their worst basketball the past couple of games and Miami isn't really responsible for their bad play. They're missing a lot of easy shots and Noah has been struggling to stay out of foul trouble. I think this team responds well when their backs are against the wall. I like what the Bulls did with Boozer last game. Going forward I think that will help Rose save some energy going into the 4th quarter. Rose will play better too. Bulls will win the next 3 games. I'm willing to make a signature or avatar wager for any of the doubters out there.

Bold statement. And I hope you're right. I'll wager dollars if interested...
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I'm not really surprised that many of you have given up on the Bulls after 2 losses. The Bulls will be fine. They've played some of their worst basketball the past couple of games and Miami isn't really responsible for their bad play. They're missing a lot of easy shots and Noah has been struggling to stay out of foul trouble. I think this team responds well when their backs are against the wall. I like what the Bulls did with Boozer last game. Going forward I think that will help Rose save some energy going into the 4th quarter. Rose will play better too. Bulls will win the next 3 games. I'm willing to make a signature or avatar wager for any of the doubters out there.

Bold statement. And I hope you're right. I'll wager dollars if interested...


What type of odds are you giving me? I'm always open to considering these types of things. I would prefer to keep it to a signature or avatar wager.

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The Original Kid Cairo wrote:
HOV, you're my dude but c'mon...you can't be serious man. You've watched enough ball to know what an overmatched team looks like.


You also claimed they were overmatched vs. the Pacers and the Hawks. So maybe you are the one who does not know what an overmatched team looks like?

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I'm not opposed to getting Kurt Thomas some minutes either. He showed he could still go during the 2nd half of the regular season and in the Pacers series.

Agreed.

A guy who can hit an open 12 footer might open things up a bit for Rose
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That's one of their biggest problems on offense. When Asik and Brewer are on the court they're spacing is terrible. I believe sacrificing a little on defense may make more sense. Gibson can move around too. Asik just looks horrible on offense. Thibs has to do a better job coaching too. He has to complain louder about some of the fouls that are being called. Every great coach knows how to work the refs.

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Forget the bad play, I think it is pretty obvious that this team is right on the edge of self destruct mode driven by sheer frustration. And I think that will only get worse once the desperation factor kicks in. We see it every year. We saw it creep up with Indiana towards the end of that series.

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Forget the bad play, I think it is pretty obvious that this team is right on the edge of self destruct mode driven by sheer frustration. And I think that will only get worse once the desperation factor kicks in. We see it every year. We saw it creep up with Indiana towards the end of that series.


There is a confidence/frustration issue with several of the Bulls players. All it takes is for some shots to go down and that changes. Boozer looked like a different guy once his shot started to fall.

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I agree Mr. Goodkat. Korver is clearly frustrated with his shot. Bogans has shown frustration as well, and Noah made it clear that he's also feeling the pressure. And although Derrick Rose would never admit it or show it outwardly, I'm sure he's frustrated too - it shows in his hasty, hurried shots and drives.

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I agree Mr. Goodkat. Korver is clearly frustrated with his shot. Bogans has shown frustration as well, and Noah made it clear that he's also feeling the pressure. And although Derrick Rose would never admit it or show it outwardly, I'm sure he's frustrated too - it shows in his hasty, hurried shots and drives.

Korver only took two shots last night. He's just being way too passive. All of his success this year is based on coming of screens and firing up shots with his quick release. He can't hesitate, and needs to pull the trigger. If he's not going to shoot the ball, there's no point in him even being on the floor.

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One would think holding the duo of LeBron James & Dwyane Wade to 39 points between them and outrebounding the Heat 41-32 in Game 3, despite Chris Bosh's 34 point night would put the Bulls in the win column. No dice...D.Rose struggled to score 20, while Luol Deng, Joakim Noah & Kyle Korver were non-factors individually. The Bulls also sent the Heat to the foul line 29 times, right around the average number of attempts Miami had gotten in their first 2 NBA Playoff series.

Tomorrow's Game 4 without question is a must for these Bulls. I know this series will return to United Center Thursday for Game 5, but the Bulls won't win this series unless they find a way to win at least once on the Heat's home floor.
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One would think holding the duo of LeBron James & Dwyane Wade to 39 points between them and outrebounding the Heat 41-32 in Game 3, despite Chris Bosh's 34 point night would put the Bulls in the win column. No dice...D.Rose struggled to score 20, while Luol Deng, Joakim Noah & Kyle Korver were non-factors individually. The Bulls also sent the Heat to the foul line 29 times, right around the average number of attempts Miami had gotten in their first 2 NBA Playoff series.

Tomorrow's Game 4 without question is a must for these Bulls. I know this series will return to United Center Thursday for Game 5, but the Bulls won't win this series unless they find a way to win at least once on the Heat's home floor.

We all saw the game SHARK.

Certainly dont need a recap at 230pm the next day.

Also dont need the schedule or the knowledge that the Bulls need to win one in Miami to win.

And I find your point that Miami was sent to the line 29 times which is right around their average to be the least interesting point Ive ever heard.
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RPB still a little angry about the game last night.

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RPB still a little angry about the game last night.

I think we all are, Hank...

With that in mind, Andrew Siciliano from FOX Sports Radio, FSN's "The Final Score" & DIRECTV's NFL RedZone Channel brought up an interesting point guest hosting "The Dan Patrick Show" on DIRECTV's 101 & Comcast SportsNet this morning.

The onetime WMAQ Radio sports anchor mentioned that the turning point in this series appears to have happened in Game 2 last Wednesday when the score was tied at 73-73 with about 7 minutes to go in the 4th and the Bulls suddenly went ice cold from the field. We all know what happened after that... :wink:
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