Nice debate they had over this Thomas Jones thing, and I'm with Waddle on this, and when the journo is brought out of Rosie, he sounds like such a blowhard idiot. His "this is a disasterous move" rant sounds just like his idiotic rant last year about the depth chart line up in June. They're on the verge of the Superbowl? Is the Super Bowl next week, Rosie? No one's on the verge of anything.

But I like Waddle being on the other side of the debate...rather than Salisbury.

Rosey is always like this, and that's why he needs to go, IMO. Is Rosey trying to be Mariotti? Christ, Eeyore, step away from the ledge.

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Rosie is a lot like Mariotti...except he can't write nearly as well.

And Salisbury would probably side with Rosie on this one.

"Ana ana you're doggone right the Bears are going to miss Thomas Jones. Ana ana he's a warrior. Ana ana all he does is CHEW up yardage."

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Rosie now will blame anything short of winning the superbowl next year on the Bears trading Thomas Jones.



Did anyone catch MJH yesterday when Harry said something like "Peyton Manning CHEWED up the Bears Defense"? Im not sure if he did it on purpose. I think he did which would be the first time Harry said a joke that I laughed at.

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Oh, and Rosey says he would have signed Jones to an extension; okay, I understand the argument that they should have kept Jones through the end of his contract, but an extension? Come on! They're paying Benson a ton of money as it is, and he wants to sign a 30 year old RB to an extension? Please. Rosey is a fucktard.

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Matt you are right. Rosenbloom is Eeyore. He is so depressing today for no reason. "The bears just traded the best running back since Walter Peyton."..."This is disasterous." ....."This is the soonest a team has ever been eliminated from the possibility at superbowl contention."

I wanted to listen to Waddle this week, but I cant put up with Rosie.

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It is always easier to spend someone else's money.

Never liked Rosenbloom. Smug, arrogant, thinks he is funnier and smarter then he really is.

Back in spring training of 2005, when he was still on the Score on Saturday mornings, he was on his soapbox one day telling everyone how the Sox should give up on Contreras and move McCarthy to the starting rotation.

Now i am sure he wasn't the only person who had this opinion but the tone and attitude of the way he presented his opinion really grated on me.

Ohhh, I can't wait for all the Bears fans to start bitching when Cedric Benson walks off injured in week 2 just like he has already twice (maybe three times) inhis short career with the Bears. Then you'll all see Adrian Peterson is not a 20-25 carry back and that Rex Grossman can't handle the fact it would really be all up to him. And then the bitching will start. Why didn't we keep Jones. Why didn't we extend him. I don't think there's anything wrong with trying to get an extension out of Thomas Jones. The Bears have been successful with TJ and Benson....not just Benson. I haven't been on the MJH board much from yesterday, but McNeil wasn't so keen on not having two good backs either. You guys better address this in the draft or by getting another capable 20 carry running back. If not, I see this being the beginning of some disappointing 9-7, 8-8 season. Not saying it will happen, but Ced still hasn't proved anything as far as being the 20-25 carry guy over 14-16 games. I don't think Rosey is so off base just because you hate him Matt.

Yeah like I said, he was doing this last year around June saying basically that Lovie Smith should be fired because he had Leon Joe first on the depth chart, and I think Benson was the "starting" running back on the depth chart.

The thing is, I don't think he believes this--he's just trying to start arguments. But it's a dumb argument to start, especially at this time of year.

And he didn't just say eliminated from superbowl contention, but playoff contention. Again, are the playoffs next week?

We're not really in deadsville anymore with sports--NCAA tourney anyone??? It's starting pretty soon. Enough football talk.

Let me address these comments.

Best RB on the Bears since Walter Payton: I don't disagree. No Bears RB has put up back to back seasons like that since Walter Payton. Neal Anderson probably could have if he had kept healthy, but he didn't.

This is disasterous: Alright, this is Rosenbloom the columnist going over the top here. I don't think it's disasterous, but I'd like for somebody to argue the Bears are better without Thomas Jones. Go for it. You'll sound just as stupid as you think Rosey is.

This is the soonest a team has ever been eliminated from the possibility at superbowl contention: Yea, Rosey is getting way over now. At this point its pretty obvious he's looking for people to call in and disagree so the show can pick up some steam. He's gotten off base now and I can see why you guys are getting annoyed.

Ryan, were you feeling the same way when Edgerin James shipped out of Indy? Very similar situation (except for the QB).

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WR, you can't have two of the largest contracts on the team at the same position when only one of them can be on the field at a time. A good O line makes any back look good. I have no doubt the Bears can find a decent backup that can do well as long as the O line is healthy and performing.

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I was pissed. I honestly thought Indy would be in DEEP shit unless they got a guy that played like James in the draft or in the FA market. The Colts did just that when they got Joseph Addai. I guy that can catch out of the backfield, gets stronger as the game goes on, and can pick up the blitz very well. The Colts also had Dominic Rhodes who had already proved to be a guy the Colts could count on to carry the ball a lot if needed. The Bears don't have that yet and if they don't address this then it is a mistake. Again the key is, and this isn't what Rosie has been saying, is if they address this accordingly with a FA or in the draft properly then its ok. I just got this feeling that the Bears, who are so damn egotistical and arrogant, will not draft a decent running back. All the backs out there in FA are either wanting as much money as Jones or do not want to be a #2 back. It's going to have to come from the draft. I hope, because I like the Bears, that they take care of this in the draft. That's what I'm saying. If they don't, it could be a tough year.

True Joe, you can't. This starts back at the stupidity of drafting Benson when the Bears had plenty of other holes to take care of. A good o-line is foundation for having a good running game, no doubt. With that said, some guys simply can't go 20-25 carries a game if needed. I believe Adrian Peterson can't do this effectively over a 3-5 game span if needed. I think he can for a game or two. Hey, if Benson stays healthy then the Bears are fine. But this is the NFL, and these things have a way of happening when you try to short change a position. I guess the thing is I just don't trust the Bears to take care of this properly from here on out. The trade itself is good. I like the 37th pick...pretty good value for so many RB's on the market. But if Angelo decides not to draft a running back or get one from the free agency market, I think it will be a possible fatal mistake for a team that was so damn close last year. you having NO DOUBT that the Bears will handle this well by getting a decent back up rb makes me chuckle knowing their recent history.

I agree with this. They are going to need to commit at least that $4 mil that they save to sign a comparable back. Or, they will need to draft one but they didn't add any picks so now they would need to use a high pick on a RB instead of a lineman.

If they sign a solid #2 guy, then I don't mind this trade so much. But, if they use a pick on one or just sign some bum, then I would rather keep Jones. Jones is a professional and would handle his business the right way even if he wasn't happy.

And, can Mr. Skin leave the radio airwaves for good now? I used to be alright with him but enough already. He's on every station I turn on.

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Exactly. And this is where Rosey doesn't discuss this part to get everyone calling in.

I hate the "he got injured in the past, therefore he will in the future" argument. It's vacuous. They said the same thing about Grossman, and Harry's 2-large richer because of it.


Already knew that.


Other than the fact that his best years are behind him and they're already paying someone at that position a ton of money. In a perfect world, sure, it'd be great to have them both. But it isn't a perfect world, and you have to manage salaries; you can't spend all your cap money on the running back position.


I think they probably should, but mostly as an insurance policy; the running back position is definitely a high risk position.


No, he's way off base. He's virtually always way off base. Look at the Packers; they pull freaking Samkon Gado out of their ass, and he has a huge season. Running backs are over-rated. Unless you have a really special back, it doesn't make that big of a difference.

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Sorry. We're talking about the Bears not the Packers. When's the last time your team pulled a running back out of their ass? Yea, I don't remember either. And before you telling me its completely the offensive line and that the running back has NOTHING to do with it let me just point out the Green Bay offensive line was less than impressive that year when Gado ran well. I'm not saying you need LT to have a great running game, but you damn well better make sure you have another back that can carry the load. Just a question Matt, but did you run the Cubs for the past few years? If so, this would explain the fact they ignored that Wood and Prior get injured every year and never addressed it. I mean, just because they got injured doesn't mean they will the next year.....

I'd like to think that they aren't dumb enough to go into camp with a depth chart at RB that looks like this:

Benson
Peterson
That Pope Guy

Angelo will use a 2nd or 3rd round pick to get somebody that can carry the load for a few weeks if Benson goes down.

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Again, I hope so, but Bears fans have thought a lot of thigns in the past would "obviously" be taken care of. I'm just saying I'll wait to decide on this move. The trade by itself, was a good one. I think the value was pretty good to move up that high in the market right now.

the perplexing thing to me is this: if the bears consider themselves a "run" offense, why are they putting all their coins in one coffer? cedric benson hasn't shown the versatility or durability of a one-back system (like LT or LJ). He begs to be part of a two back system.

I just wonder what kind of offense the bears will try to run next year with just benson.

That's what I'm saying. I'm waiting to see what they do before I castrate Angelo.

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I think he can be that guy. They will obviously have to spell him for a series or two a game. He catches the ball out of the back field just as well as Jones.

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Really? All 8 catches?

Another thing we have forgotten. Cedric Benson has yet to prove he can handle the blitz worth a shit.

See, this tells me you don't know what you're talking about. When you're talking about baseball players, you're talking about injuries that are a direct result of physical problems; problems that may well be likely to recur. When you're talking about a running back, you're generally talking about injuries that result from collisions. The two are in no way similar. You can't compare Wood's constant shoulder issues with Grossman's blowing out his ankle or Benson injuring his ACL. There's no comparison. You're grasping at straws to defend the uber-douche that is Rosey.

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In a perfect world I would love to have TJ as a backup. San Diego has a similar situation where they had LT plus a great backup in Turner. Eventually, if not this year they will have to get rid of Turner too. It's nice to have insurance at positions, but lets face it if Urlacher goes down the Bears are screwed there as well. That's what happens. I dont think it would be that hard to find a rb that can fill in 5-10 plays a game behind a good O line. Look at Denver. They make RB's. You can't go by if such and such gets hurt your screwed. That's true for any team. What would happen to the Colts if Manning got hurt?

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This just shows me why everyone considers you a dick when you argue.

Ced already has some baggage with his knee injuries. They were a couple of fluke ones, but now that it's happened twice I'm sure he is more prone to having something go wrong with them again, much like Prior who has had some whacked out fluke injuries.

Again, I'm not saying this deal screws them or that it was a badtrade. I'm saying it COULD be if the Bears don't address this accordingly and I just feel like they won't because they're the Bears. Let's see who they sign and then we can decide how we feel about the backfield situation.

On to the Manning comment....THEY WOULD BE SCREWED! I'm not happy they don't have a somewhat sufficient backup QB. But if I'm going to use Matt's logic, then I have to ask you; are you comparing Cedric Benson to Peyton Manning?

When you're in the sexy business, you don't check down.

When Rex did check down, Benson was impressive.

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