I think barring about 12 or 13 win stretch here to end the month, this season is just about a lost cause so might as well let him learn at the big league level. He's not the only one on this team thats done poorly so far. 2 of the other infielders, at least one outfielder, and his manager have all been shit for the most part all year.

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Renteria was an insult!

Once again WWN ...spot on

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

This is looking more likely.

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After further review, I sugested Ryan Raburn in another topic. A decent 2b with a little pop, but not really All Star level. Somebody suggested I was drinking, FWIW

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1926-1931-1934-1942-1944-1946-1964-1967-1982-2006-2011

A year later and the same things are being discussed.

Hey, but he isn't a bust, don't say that!

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."

He's starting to hit again...Alright, it's only .214 starting the night, but Gordon Beckham did have an infield single & scored one of the 6 White Sox runs last night in their 6-2 Sox winner over the Orioles at the empty "Cell". I don't know if batting him second will ever quite materialize, but I'll say this. Call me a homer if you must, but I'll take Beckham over Starlin Castro defensively in a heartbeat.

Homer. It's ok though, Castro will be the better overall player and it won't even be close, SHARKBITE.

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."

Starlin can't throw, RFDC. I'm not so sure he's long for shortstop on the Northside either...

If he didn't get sent to AAA last year, I can't see him going to AAA this year.

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Beckham can't hit. I will keep Castro.

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."

MVP

Paul Molitor

Wouldnt trade him for Adrian Gonzalez

Weren't those based on his actual major league production at the time?

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So?

I thought you brought it up because of the over-hyped minor league prospect discussion.

My mistake.

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I don't know if we ever expected Gordon Beckham to become as offensively productive as the Yankees' Robinson Cano, but from the right side of the plate. Right now, I'm not so sure Beckham's bat will ever be that productive. Defensively, Beckham's actually the #1 second baseman in the American League already and has committed ONLY 1 error. He did work awfully hard in the offseason after he hurt his wrist area after getting plunked by a pitch last August vs. the Indians at (Not So) Progressive Field in Cleveland. It looked like this was going to be a breakout season after Beckham smoked the ball in Spring Training, but that doesn't appear to be the case.

Over hyped prospect discussion is what it evolved to.

Beckham fits in nicely there.

Ok.

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A permanent MLB player is not a prospect.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

Who is that?

You think Beckham is in the bigs for good?


Not so sure


And he was certainly a prospect when this thread was created and Keyser predicted an MVP and other compaired him to Hall of Famer Paul Molitor and scolded me for projecting him as low as Edgar Renteria

In that case you cant choose Patterson as an example of a bad prospect. He is still a MLB player so he must be good right?

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The more I think about Beckham, the more I think the White Sox should've had him here at second base from Day 1. In hindsight, he was clearly better than Chris Getz & Jayson Nix 2 years ago when the job was open in Spring Training. The business of baseball prevented Beckham from breaking camp with the team.

To sidetrack a bit here, I think you're expectation of what a good big league hitter does is still mired in the Juice Era. I'm pretty sure there isn't one Yankee hitting over .300. I believe that speaks more to a changes in the game than as a reflection on particular players.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

High end? Darwin Barney

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Team Cutler.

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How many minor league games has Beckham played since this thread was started?
Patterson spent almost 3 full years in the minors. That's a prospect.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

It's not as natural when I do it as Frank.

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Team Cutler.

Yeah the bar has been lowered offensively, but .226 wouldnt be acceptable in any era.


I dont have to tell you how good of a player Edgar Renteria was and how Great of a player Molitor was.

Do you remove the prospect label with the first MLB at bat?

Point well taken, but Beckham's not the only player who suddenly can't hit...