The Little Sumpin is alright, but after having one, I feel awful immediately for some reason. The only other beer that does that to me is Budweiser.

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Not to dispute your point, but I don't think there is a science behind skin color...otherwise people would all look the same.

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It wasn't an insult but it was an attempt to point out that your statement was absurd. Do you think taste is magic or something? At the very basic level, it's simply receptors in your mouth and processing by your brain.

Taste is just like any other sense unless of course you also believe that vision, hearing, and touch don't have science behind them.

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There is very much a science behind taste. With regards to beers and wine, it's the fact that different components of the drink come out at different temperatures. The "science behind taste" is why certain wines must be chilled, or opened for a bit before pouring. Hell, even the shape of the glass it's served in can affect taste.

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Also, in an amusing twist, the different ways that people perceive taste is also science, which makes it a very poor piece of evidence to support the "no science behind taste" hypothesis.

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I must admit that I was intrigued by the shape of the glass affecting taste as I read up on this over the weekend. I never would have thought that but that's why brandy is served in a big ol bowl glass, and that's why red wines are served in different glasses that whites. It's interesting. It's probably going to give me something to read up on during my free time. I find stuff like that that interests me all the time, and this is pretty fascinating.

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I only recently learned how ice beer was made. I, like our know it all friend, had assumed that it was a combination of magic and luck beforehand.

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I used to think the glass-shape thing was complete bullshit, but after sampling different beers, and not really liking them, my opinion changed when I sampled them in a different type of glass.

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Are you talking to me with this?

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You have trouble expressing yourself I've noticed.
Regardless of what you meant, my post was about how I find the science of taste interesting to read about.

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What the hell are you talking about?

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Some people like apples. Some people like oranges. It's not science. It's just stuff different people like.

EDIT: Some people like bananas.

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I find this hilarious.
The science thing throws you for a loop. I would say that you're not exactly following the scientific method in your conclusion posited above. For example, you're not eliminating all variables and testing a single variable. In this case, there could be a significant difference in your written word ability and your spoken word ability. Therefore, your conclusion that it's a "board thing" and "not you" is questionable at best. That being said, your post that started the conversation was pretty cut and dry...

Not to dispute your point, but I don't think there is a science behind taste...otherwise people would all like the same things.

Well, there very much is a science behind taste. Therefore, your comment, however intended, is factually inaccurate.

That being said, I would imagne that if you simply said that statement to others, they too would take exception to your point, or question its truth regardless of the medium in which it were expressed.

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@ you changing your entire argument. You're following your general progression through these type of situations. Make comment, have that comment to be found lacking, back up, change original point, call others dumb.

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Original point:

Not to dispute your point, but I don't think there is a science behind taste...otherwise people would all like the same things.


Altered point after getting busted:

There is NOT a way to scientifically alter one's perception of a taste...and therefore no way to control what a person finds tasty and what a person finds disgusting

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yeah, I knew exactly what you meant. You thought that there was no science behind taste. That was ALL you said. That there is no science behind taste. The rest you made up as you went along. So yeah, I understood you just fine. If you didn't mean to say that there is no science behind taste, then you are guilty of not expressing yourself correctly.

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Edit it fucker.
You don't have the rights to use my fucking name here motherfucker I am not playing.
NOT ONE BIT.

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How is that not science?

I am not arguing that perception exists. I'm arguing with your stance that it is not science.

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That's not totally true either, but it's close enough that I'll let it go. After all, I'm pretty sure that if I were to have you swish hydrocloric acid in your mouth for two minutes, and then eat a lemon that the taste would be considered different than if I had you drink a glass of milk and then do the same.

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Here we go...

Start by saying something to be found lacking...


Back up...



Change orignal point



Call others Dumb:


You did it all exactly how I figured you would.

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For the record IMU, the reason that I correct your bad statements so often is that I enjoy frustrating those who openly confess to thinking they are smarter than other people as you did to Frank C before and have done to countless others. When that person then tries to argue that any part of taste isn't science, including your weak and still incorrect "clarifications" I say something.

If you would stop acting like you are better or smarter than so many people I'd probably let your ignorance go unchecked but I have to keep fighting for the good of society.

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Your original point, IMU, was
I don't think there is a science behind taste

That's pretty much all you said. If there were some great meaning between the lines, perhaps you should have expressed yourself much more clearly.

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No thanks. You're not particularly decent to me so I see no need to refer to you on friendly terms at this time.

You know something IMU, you really think you're some real hot shit don't you?
You've told probably 20 people here how much smarter you are than them.
Quite frankly and truthfully, no Darko joking, you don't carry yourself as being particularly smart. You don't express yourself well with the written word and you have conclusions that are questionable at best. To bust out the "old man" argument, I've been around the block enough times to know that those that shout how much smarter they are then anyone else most likely isn't. It's like the guy who brags about how big his johnson is. It's probably pretty pathetic.
So far, I've not yet seen you make a seriously well thought out observation and follow it thru to a logical conclusion once really. Your political thoughts are opinions, which are neither right nor wrong, but your other thoughts tend to be poorly thought out and lacking critical data. You reek of arrogance.
Are all the posters who consistantly call out your bullshit "out to get you" or stupid?

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Yes. All we can go by is what you type. You typed your thought very poorly.

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I agree. Written words are a very inefficient way of communicating your thoughts. Message boards may not be for you.
I'd like to argue, but I don't know what you are saying here.

Let me put it another way. There is an optimal way that the building blocks of the liquid can be, and reaching that balance is important. Regardless of "perception" there is a temperature where almost universally something will be worse and something will be better. Even if you hate a liquid at 33 degrees, you will hate it much more at 133 degrees or vice versa, and some people will like it with both such as coffee. Your perception simply sets the baseline.

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Tried this over the weekend:



It disappointed me a bit. Maybe I should have drank it at a warmer temperature.

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Yeah that really hurts, IMU. You're always the first guy to get all personal. You're a mean little boy. As soon as someone disagrees with you, you just straight up call them stupid. You're not a good person when you do that kind of thing.

I always liked you when we were hanging out. I find your posts questionable and generally obnoxious. You're like two different people. You don't say outragous shit like calling me stupid in person. Maybe it's because you don't have the balls to do it in person, you only got the sack to say shit like that to people on a message board. That's the conclusion I'm coming up with.

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Were you helping me with my case?

It's little harder for your mom because it's hard to get Coca Cola much colder than 33 degrees, but you would dislike Coke much more at 100 degrees than you would at 55.

In fact, your example right there does in fact go to show that science does matter because different reactions because of temperature is science. Thanks for helping me out.

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That's not true at all. In fact the entire field of molecular gastronomy is about looking into this process. They have introduced chemicals that change the perception of taste from bitter to sweet to assist in increasing the food supply by taking plants that aren't edible and making them edible. It's what those guys at Moto restaurant are doing as well in a more avant-garde environment - feeding you sidewalk weeds at 150 bucks a plate.

In simple practice, drink some red wine and pay attention to the taste and then eat a small piece of chocolate and see how much of a difference it can make in the taste of the wine.

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