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PostPosted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 9:56 am 
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Hip hop songs completely stolen by guest MC's

Ill start with what I consider the best example of what I mean.

Off of what many refer to as the greatest hip hop album of all time or the hip hop bible, Nas gets completely outshined by AZ on Life's a Bitch. It was the only guest appearance on the album and it was awesome. If I did a top 10 or 25 list of verses, it would definitely be in there.

Nas feat AZ-Life's a Bitch


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"Street Hassle": Reed outshined by Springsteen

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Snoop Dog was great on Dr Dre's "The Chronic" which led to his eventual
solo release "DoggyStyle" and the rest is history. Not sure I would say
Snoop steals the album from Dre but a lot of people liked his style on
that record.

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Took the then gf to a Aerosmith-Kravitz show for Xmas in 05 or 06 and Lenny came on the stage at the end and completely stole Dream On from Steven Tyler

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There's always a debate about if Method Man outshined Biggie on The What...

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There's always a debate about if Method Man outshined Biggie on The What...

No debate as far as I'm concerned. Method ate him up on that track.

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Surprise, surprise. Another example of Biggie getting smoked by a guest-rapper:

Biggie feat. Eminem - "Dead Wrong"

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 10:18 am 
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Method has a habit of doing that.

He owns
Extortion-Mobb Deep

But The What is not a fair fight. Meth has way longer to flow on that track.


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The Original Kid Cairo wrote:
Surprise, surprise. Another example of Biggie getting smoked by a guest-rapper:

Biggie feat. Eminem - "Dead Wrong"



:cheers:
I was just about to post this.

In Biggies defense, he was dead when this song was released so his verses were probably a rejects that he didn't dig anyway. Puff threw Em on it and Em just murdered it...

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Krazy Ivan wrote:
The Original Kid Cairo wrote:
Surprise, surprise. Another example of Biggie getting smoked by a guest-rapper:

Biggie feat. Eminem - "Dead Wrong"



:cheers:
I was just about to post this.

In Biggies defense, he was dead when this song was released so his verses were probably a rejects that he didn't dig anyway. Puff threw Em on it and Em just murdered it...


That was gonna be my first question after Kids post. I dont really know the industry like you guys do but I feel it's not fair to Biggie to count something like that in a list like this

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Hey, even 2Pac and Big Pun had some really good posthumous tracks with other rappers. I think Biggie is fair game...Eminem would've outshined Biggie whether dead or alive.

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Judy Collins really outshined Anne Murray on many of the 45's they collaborated on when I was a kid.

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The Original Kid Cairo wrote:
Hey, even 2Pac and Big Pun had some really good posthumous tracks with other rappers. I think Biggie is fair game...Eminem would've outshined Biggie whether dead or alive.


Well yeah. Aren't those guys much better than Biggie though? I know the whole biggie/Pac thing is polarizing, and I'm not a good judge, but from everything I've heard from them I never understood the debate.

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The Original Kid Cairo wrote:
Hey, even 2Pac and Big Pun had some really good posthumous tracks with other rappers. I think Biggie is fair game...Eminem would've outshined Biggie whether dead or alive.


Well yeah. Aren't those guys much better than Biggie though? I know the whole biggie/Pac thing is polarizing, and I'm not a good judge, but from everything I've heard from them I never understood the debate.

True. They're much better than Biggie IMO. But I'm just such a Biggie Smalls hater that I feel the need to rip him at every opportunity. This was just me doing that.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 10:37 am 
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Cairo is biased on that.

Biggie is top 5 or top 10 for most people.


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rogers park bryan wrote:
Cairo is biased on that.

Biggie is top 5 or top 10 for most people.

True, I'm biased. Those people are wrong though.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 10:39 am 
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The Original Kid Cairo wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Cairo is biased on that.

Biggie is top 5 or top 10 for most people.

True, I'm biased. Those people are wrong though.

I cant believe you dont LOVE Everyday Struggle


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rogers park bryan wrote:
Cairo is biased on that.

Biggie is top 5 or top 10 for most people.


Right, that's more or less the consensus from my friends who are fans of the genre. But they also say Biggie was a much more talented musician but couldn't hold a candle to Pac and a ton of the guys around him when it came to writing/freestyling. Truth to that description??

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rogers park bryan wrote:
The Original Kid Cairo wrote:
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Cairo is biased on that.

Biggie is top 5 or top 10 for most people.

True, I'm biased. Those people are wrong though.

I cant believe you dont LOVE Everyday Struggle

:? It's okay. Nas or Pun or even HOVA would've told that song's story much better though.

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Eminem was outshined by Rihanna and Dido on two of his biggest songs.

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You just can't find lyrics like that anymore.


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Nas- Verbal Intercourse on Raekwon's OB4CL


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Nas-Eye for an Eye off Mobb Deep's The Infamous


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That was the first one that came to mind. Also, a special appearance by KMD's Zev Love X on 3rd Bass' "Gas Face." And although I'm not a big fan of his, 2Pac on Digital Underground's "Same Song." Simplistic yet fun. Bonus points for Dan Akroyd in the video.

Now I clown around when I hang around with the Underground
Girls use to frown, say I'm down, when I come around
gas me and when they pass me they use to diss me
harrass me, but now they ask me if they can kiss me
Get some fame, people change, wanna live they life high
same song, can't go wrong, if I play the nice guy
(clamin that they must have changed,just because we came strong)
I remain, still the same (why Tu'?) cause it's the same song


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BIG ravaged Notorious Thugs. I know its Bigs album but that verse was just ridiculous

KanYe merked I Put On ft Jeezy

Nas just straight stole the whole OB4CL and almost the Infamous album

Deck wrecked shop on Above the Clouds

Nicky Minaj on Monster

And neither Nas, Em or Jay would have done Everyday Struggle better. That's just a laughable thought imo. And Nas is my all time fav MC

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2pac on MC Breeds "gotta get mine"

What do you guys think about Ghostface on a few of the tracks on Raekwon's cuban linx album. He kinda kills Rea on some of them, IMO.

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