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PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 10:05 pm 
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Dead at 47 hrs old. No more cherry pie for lane.

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I cannot for the life of me remember what venue I saw them in, but when I was in H.S. I went with a group of friends
and saw Warrant open for Poison. I do however distinctly remember that during the guitar solo, one of the dudes was on his knees
acting like he was eating the pussy of what was probably a cardboard stand-up. He would diddle his nonsense, and turn to the crowd
and spit out a cherry. It was pretty pathetic. Warrant sucked ass, that said, I'm sorry to hear about Jani.

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I rocked out to their 1st 2 albums. Then they wore all leather and sounded like shit. He looked like he was in real bad shape when he was on celebrity fit club a few years back.

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I wasn't aware he was still alive.

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Addiction is a bitch... RIP.

Much like Amy Winehouse, he was a mess.


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Hey KS!

When does the "Two Day Warrant Challenge" start?

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In a Comfort Inn as well. The state fairs clearly don't pay what they used to

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I'm going to rock out to "Seventeen" in honor of Warrant today.

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Keeping Score wrote:
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I'm going to rock out to "Seventeen" in honor of Warrant today.


:?

I think that's Winger.

If you want to rock out to Warrant, put on some Uncle Tom's Cabin.

I think Winger's hit was "Cum on feel the noize".

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I fucking hated their music.

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Douchebag wrote:
Keeping Score wrote:
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I'm going to rock out to "Seventeen" in honor of Warrant today.


:?

I think that's Winger.

If you want to rock out to Warrant, put on some Uncle Tom's Cabin.

I think Winger's hit was "Cum on feel the noize".


I think 'ole Douchebag is fucking with you KS.

Geez- We all know that 17 was from Winger and Cum on feel the Noize was Quiet Riot.

I was going to post When the Children Cry as a tribute until I remembered that it was White Lion not Warrant who sang When the Children Cry. I feel like a dumbass.

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I did not know who this person was, so I did a little research and discovered an interesting fact: This person's real name was John Kennedy Oswald.

It reminds me of that famous set of facts; for example, Lincoln's secretary was named Kennedy, and Keenedy's secretary was named Lincoln.

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rogers park bryan wrote:
Cherry Pie

What does this Slaughter song have to do with anything?

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Klosterman's got an article up at Grantland about it. Too lazy to go back and get you the link.

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Jani Lane was the first person to speak from the stage at the first concert I ever paid money to see, a 1989 show at the West Fargo Fairgrounds featuring Warrant, Great White, and Ratt. In retrospect, that was a real triple-bill of tragedy — Ratt’s Robbin Crosby was the first major eighties metal figure to contract HIV from heroin use, Great White was the accidental catalyst for the death of 100 people at a 2003 show in Rhode Island, and — today — the news broke that Lane was found dead at the age of 47 in Woodland Falls Hills, California. As I type this sentence, the cause of death has not been reported … but this was a 47-year-old musician who died in a hotel room. Do the math.

It’s easy to compliment the dead, but that’s often the only time we admit non-contextual truths: Lane was an incredible frontman, particularly in 1989. He was loquacious and funny and famous-looking, and Warrant tried so hard to be entertaining; they probably only played for 40 minutes, but they clearly did not want all the teenage girls wearing Ratt t-shirts in the mud to feel remotely ripped off. The only song most of the crowd knew was “Down Boys,” which they may have played twice; I remember they played “Heaven” and everybody sort of instantly knew this would be a super-successful single that a lot of guys would pretend to hate during prom. Considering how emotionally invested Warrant seemed in playing for 8,000 people in a city they knew nothing about, it must have been a wonderful time to be the singer in a band that seemed engineered for joy and hugeness. Yet I wonder how often Jani Lane was happy during the 22 years that followed. He had success, but it was the kind of success that’s hard to appreciate.

Lane wrote most of the music for Warrant and was extremely excited about the release of what would be their second album, which he wanted to title Uncle Tom’s Cabin. He though the hypothetical title track, “Uncle Tom’s Cabin,” was the most sophisticated thing he’d ever composed, and it probably was. But the people at Columbia Records thought it was too understated and maybe “too political” (or something), so they told Lane to write an anthem that was consciously unserious. He supposedly wrote “Cherry Pie” in less than 15 minutes, made several million dollars, and regretted it for 15 years. When you interviewed Lane during the late nineties, he would talk about “Cherry Pie” like a man who’d thoughtlessly married a gorgeous woman and immediately came to realize he’d irrevocably altered the very meaning of his life, but I guess Lane did that, too (in 1991 he married the actress from the “Cherry Pie” video, Bobbie Brown, but they divorced in ‘93). He sighed a lot. He still made jokes, but they were dark.

In general, Warrant had bad timing. They were blamed for killing heavy metal, even though they never exhibited any interest in being heavy or metallic. Warrant entered a genre of music after that genre had already peaked, which meant they were artificially pushed by industry insiders (who refused to accept that glam was fading) and unfairly maligned by self-consciously trendy fans (their ’91 tour with Trixter and Firehouse was mocked by everyone, including kids who went to the show and admitted it was awesome). Lane often told a story of walking into the Columbia offices in 1993 and expecting to see a framed poster of Warrant in the reception hallway, because that’s where it had always been; when he saw that this picture had been replaced by a likeness of Alice in Chains, he knew it meant something bad. But he kept trying. He really did. He still loved music. Critics will forever argue that the pop he made was fundamentally fake, and I understand what that argument entails. But Lane was not a fake person. When he did (what amounted to) a solo tour in ’96, he would make this weird pact with the audience: He would tell the crowd that he’d play all the old songs he kind of hated if they would just be willing to listen to the new songs he liked. That might sound retrospectively desperate, but that’s not how it felt at time. It actually made him seem reasonable. He understood how expectation functioned and he realized that the experience of entertainment had no relationship to how non-fans viewed the quality of his work. Lane was less pretentious than most of the credible musicians who usurped his role in the popular culture.

Lane’s life got weird post-1996: A native of Northeast Ohio (and born with the paradoxical name of John Kennedy Oswald), he moved back to Cleveland and briefly became a chef. He gained weight and started wearing eyeglasses, and people thought this was hilarious, because guys who used to sing in rock bands are apparently supposed to live off blueberries and have 20/20 vision. He appeared on one of those terrible VH1 shows about losing weight and temporarily replaced the lead singer of Great White; he made a power-pop album that would have appealed to old Warrant fans if they’d only known it existed. He got a DUI ands spent four months in jail. He leaves behind a 19-year-old daughter who probably looks a lot like the beautiful girls who used to be in Warrant videos. He died in a Comfort Inn, which just seems depressing as hell. I can’t tell if he had an obviously great life or a quietly tragic life. Probably both, which is how it goes for most people.

Chuck Klosterman is the author of six books. His novel The Visible Man will be released in October.

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Anyone that thinks Warrant killed heavy metal is stupid.

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Anyone that thinks Warrant killed heavy metal is stupid.



It really is preposterous. I've never heard that, thought that, or could've even imagined that.

I maintain that Nirvana killed metal and hard rock/classic rock.

But if anybody would've been perceived to have killed it from the Warrant era, it would be Bon Jovi. Though the posers were never metal, and basically never hard rock either.....there was still a perception from some that they were going to be one or the other. (Metal/Hard Rock)

People in high school who prescribed to that line of thinking were ridiculed to no end. And it was fun.


Now you've done it. You better watch your back, Bud Dude will not let you take the name of the mighty
Bon Jovi in vain like that KS.

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Bon Jovi did not kill it either, that is as dumb as saying Warrant did.

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That is why I would say it is impossible for Bon Jovi to have killed Metal. Bon Jovi could not kill something they were never a part of.

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the video for Smells Like Teen Spirit killed the 80s early 90s metal era.

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the video for Smells Like Teen Spirit killed the 80s early 90s metal era.

Pantera carried it.
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"hair metal"

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I think I might have been at the same concert as shirtless driver. It was at the rosemont horizion around 91 I think. I'm pretty sure I was in 8th grade my friend was a freshman and her older sister and her friend took us. We met some guys that night and I lied about my age. It was fun.

This is sad. I liked warrant.

I hate Nirvana and all that followed them. They took the fun out and everybody started wearing ugly boots and flannel shirts. Tons of drugs with no party. A bunch of middle class high schoolers who had it pretty good started complaing how hard life was, they were sad, and nobody understood them. Stupid Nirvana.


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"hair metal"

come to think of it, Megadeth was making great shit during the early 90's too I thought.
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I hate Nirvana and all that followed them. They took the fun out and everybody started wearing ugly boots and flannel shirts. Tons of drugs with no party. A bunch of middle class high schoolers who had it pretty good started complaing how hard life was, they were sad, and nobody understood them. Stupid Nirvana.

For the most part I agree. Except Warrant sucked too.

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I hate Nirvana and all that followed them. They took the fun out and everybody started wearing ugly boots and flannel shirts. Tons of drugs with no party. A bunch of middle class high schoolers who had it pretty good started complaing how hard life was, they were sad, and nobody understood them. Stupid Nirvana.


This sums it up exactly. Terrible time.

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In some Metal Documentary on VH1, Dee Snyder posited that the unexpected success of "Home Sweet Home" by Motley Crue led other bands and labels to release a mandatory Power Ballad single each time out. The eventual Prom-songification of the genre created a stagnation and a void that eventually was filled by Pearl Jam, AIC, etc. So Motley Crue and opportunism killed '80's/early '90's metal, not Nirvana.

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true...but, Nirvana shot the severed head 6 times.

there was a sea-change of music and how it was presented mainstream in the fall of 1991.

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