As bad as Hendry is, you cant convince me that he is worse than anyone in the Pirates. 18 straight years of losing seasons isnt good, if they could build for the future they already would have.

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well neal huntington has been on the job for pittsburgh for 3 years..the first thing he did was fire everyone, which is what needs to be done here.. they have better prospects and a nicer stadium and a brighter future...didnt the pirates win the series in the 70's? ..so yeah they have a better past and future and are doing it on a budget

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The current management of the Cubs and Pirates has little to do with the 70's, so we can just throw that right out. As far as the future goes, I like McCutcheon but I will take Castro over him anyday. Beyond that I dont see a hell of a lot to get excited about for either team this season or next. The Pirates are doing better than the Cubs this season due to some tremendously lucky pitching by a bunch of bums. They have regressed to where they should be. The Cubs are burdened with overpaid fools and underwater manager, the overpaid fools will be gone soon and hopefully so will the GM and manager. I like the Cubs future in 2013 and beyond a lot better.

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At least Pittsburg was smart enough to hire a real manager with an actual World Series appearance on his resume.

Quade's claim to fame was??

He's from Mount Prospect. Just like Lee Dewyse from American Idol.

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favrefan said:"Chris Coghlan isn't gonna pay your rent, Jimmy."

That's right! How could I forget that??

Dusty Baker had a WS appearance and Pinella had a WS ring and managed a team in Seattle that won the most regular season games ever. How did each of those moves work out?


Quade sucks but WS experience means dick. Managers are good when they have a good team and when they have a bad team suddenly they stink.

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i never liked lou and never wanted his dumb ass here..his team in seattle was the best team in mlb that season and won nothing..his cubs team that got swept by the dodgers was the best team in the n.l. and won zero post season games...lou was a real bad hire..look at lou in tampa..joe madden came in and cleaned up his mess... the pirates may have won nothing in the last 2 decades and spent little money on payroll..while the cubs have won nothing in the last 11 decades and have spent more money

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Good Managers never have lousy teams. See Tony LaRussa.

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CSFMB 2014 Nascar Pick 'em Champion

We don’t have a trillion-dollar debt because we haven’t taxed enough; we have a trillion-dollar debt because we spend too much. — Ronald Reagan

Just a quick glance at some of LaRussa's teams

84 Sox 74-88

87 A's 81-81

93 A's 68-94

94 A's 51-63

95 A's 67-77

97 Cards 73-89

99 Cards 75-86

07 Cards 78-84

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."

Shhhhhhhhhh! Never let the facts get in the way of a good blanket statement

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Seriously if over 30 years of managing and that's the worst teams you come up with that's pretty damn good.

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"Play until it hurts, then play until it hurts to not play."
http://soundcloud.com/darkside124 HOF 2013, MM Champion 2014

Oh I completely agree. But to say that good managers never have lousy teams is just stupid. Ever good manager has lousy teams, it is just the way baseball works.

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."

I guess. Calling out the absolutism in his comment was worthwhile but I'm sorry to say he does have a point, he just said it badly. A good manager can make a run with just about any team. LaRussa, as much as I hate to say it, has proven that true time and time again, even though he doesn't always win divisions/championships. He is one of the best.

Now on the other hand, everyone sucks Bobby's Cox but I don't think he's half the manager that his reputation would say.

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"Play until it hurts, then play until it hurts to not play."
http://soundcloud.com/darkside124 HOF 2013, MM Champion 2014

Well obviously LaRussa is a better manager than Quade which is most evident by the fact that LaRussa will run at least 3 organizations for extended periods of time and after the Cubs shit can Quade he will never ever sniff another MLB manager job ever. Maybe the Fielders can bring him in.

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If it were anyone else I would say you are right and that was SH's intended point just stated poorly. But this is JohnKirk we are talking about. He is just stupid, no need to explain it away.

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."

Brutal...
But earned.

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"Play until it hurts, then play until it hurts to not play."
http://soundcloud.com/darkside124 HOF 2013, MM Champion 2014

Leyland is another one that is Larussa-good, except he's underrated

the Tigers are in contention every year with mostly average players

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Your support of the Quade hiring at the time says all the needs to be said.

quote="Phil McCracken"]

I don't see Quade even sniffing a coaching job in MLB again unless maybe his buddy Bruce Bochy gives him a job throwing batting practice and/or being head cheerleader/designated clapper.

He'll be a bench coach with the Nationals or something for a year and then retreat to the warm embrace of AAA.

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So you agree with me...but its me, so you don't like it & you resort to name calling. Nice. A Missurah country bumpkin hillbilly like you is calling me names?

I hate the Cardinals, but Tony LaRussa is a GREAT Baseball Manager who gets more out of his players than any other Manager in the game. WTF was Hawk thinking when he fired Tony???

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CSFMB 2014 Nascar Pick 'em Champion

We don’t have a trillion-dollar debt because we haven’t taxed enough; we have a trillion-dollar debt because we spend too much. — Ronald Reagan

Tony La Russa is also a pissant obsessed with hit-by-pitch retaliation and just so happens to be inextricably tied to steroids in baseball more than almost any other manager. He's not so fuckin' great.

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Davey Johnson would never bring this moron on to his staff in any capacity.

Thinking of something to say to defend myself......... Still thinking......Yeah, Some bad baseball thoughts here the last year. I hope to redeem myself.

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The fact that this is what you took away from my conversation with Darkside is even more proof of how stupid you are. Thanks for helping out Kirky.

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."

So when does this clown get the boot? I say within 3 days of the seasons end.

soon after the new GM is hired

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Valentine's scathing indictment of Castro's lack of discipline and then the close ups of Quade watching it all happen are hilarious and owe so true.

I started a Bobby V shoutout with bad spelling in another section. That was spot on. Q Ball sucks. So glad he is gonna be gone.