One less shitty band in the world.

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Maybe Spada could invite Vampire Weekend and Joe Satriani to be on that show too.

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Please tell me you are not saying Mike Scott and Jason Schmidt were average pitchers.

Mike Cameron played in an era of unparalleled offensive production. Jim Wynn played at a time when guys threw off a towering mound and The league average was around .240. If you can't see the difference, I can't help you. But it is reflected in Wynn's 23 extra points of OPS+ as compared to Cameron. Mike Cameron was a better than average player. Jim Wynn was a great player.

I would stop well short of calling Gary Peters "great", but he was certainly better than an average pitcher. He didn't lead the league once in a fluky season. He did it twice and was among the leaders on other occasions.

I'm requesting that David Spada, Esq. file a Motion to Quash your further participation in all baseball-related threads.

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You're wrong. He was dominant for a short stretch and then got hurt. When healthy he was never average. Always way above it.

So you think a .575 winning percentage for a pitcher is average?



Mike Scott won 14 games or more 5 seasons in a row and had a season where he struck out 300. Hardly average.

It seems you give a lot of creedence to compilers. I guess in your world Jamie Moyer is better than Johan Santana and Mike Morgan is better than Pedro.

Both pitchers were dominant for a short stretch and if you ever saw Mike Scott pitch, you would not call him average.

So Dominant for a short stretch but not the long haul = average?


How many all star teams do you have to make to be considered above average?

I don't look at players as being "good" and "bad". You know why? Because I'm not a simpleton.

Each player has a different skillset. Pierre's skills aren't a great fit for the way the game has been played over the last fifteen years or so. I don't think that fact makes him "bad at baseball". There's still a place in the game for him. And his on-base percentage isn't particularly low no matter how much certain idiots scream that it is.

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Cameron isn't close to the player Wynn was. Schmidt and Peters may be a better, though imperfect, comparison. Regardless, if people claiming to be baseball fans don't know who those guys are in 40 years, shame on them.

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I can't check the site for a few days and I come back to a spada thread being 3 pages. Strange times we are living in. Love the Ron Gant sighting on the 1st page though!

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What is your basis for the idea that Scott was better than Peters? I'm not saying he was or wasn't, I'd just like to know how you arrived at your conclusion. One thing I'll say about Scott, there was a period where he was absolutely the best pitcher in baseball.

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2 games above .500 for a historically bad team is not bad. But thats not what I meant. My point is when someone is dominant like Schmidt ended up being, you cant call him average anymore.

You cited his .575 winning percentage as average. It is not.





No, he had 5 straight dominant seasons.

86-49 with an average of 203 K's and an ERA of 2.95