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Also, I forgot to include Redman so I bumped Treach off my list.

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The Original Kid Cairo wrote:
...so I bumped Treach off my list.



good idea...

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Krazy Ivan wrote:
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...so I bumped Treach off my list.



good idea...

:lol:

Naughty By Nature as a group would still be there. Treach solo doesn't belong.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 1:42 pm 
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The Original Kid Cairo wrote:
Also, I forgot to include Redman so I bumped Treach off my list.


i do like Treach.....the first album is a classic. i just feel they took a sharp downward turn after that with Hip Hop Hooray and all that crap. and yes I know OPP was a gimmicky song too but the whole album is solid. nothing really good on 2nd album on


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 1:42 pm 
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Bagels wrote:
1. 2Pac
2. Rakim
3. Biggie
4. Nas
5. Big L
6. Ghostface
7. Blu
8. GZA
9. Buckshot
10. Talib Kweli
11. Mos Def
12.Redman
13. Guru
14.Prodigy
15.Andre 3000
16.Kool G Rap
17.O.C.
18.Black Thought
19.Ice Cube
20.A.G.
21.MC Lyte
22. Elzhi
23. J-Live
24.Keith Murray
25. Madlib


Love a lot of names on your list but you're going to have to meet me at 3:00 for putting Biggie ahead of Nas.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 1:43 pm 
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How is Dre ahead of Jay-Z RPB? He doesn't even write his own rhymes. Hell Jay-Z writes some of them. Your dislike of Hova is shocking. How is Biggie ahead of Pac on any list? Did Big ever say something thought provoking?

Personal preference. Dre was my first favorite rapper.

And I like Biggie, 2pac was awesome but some of his stuff got repetitive and too gangsta for the sake of gangsta.

I thought Biggie was pretty thought provoking on Everyday Struggle. I consider that one of THEE classic hip hop tracks of all time.

I dont dislike Jay Z, he's my 17th favorite rapper.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 1:44 pm 
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The Original Kid Cairo wrote:
Here we go...

1. LL Cool J
2. 2Pac
3. Big Pun
4. Royce Da 5'9"
5. Ice Cube
6. Nas
7. Eminem
8. Talib Kweli
9. Phraroahe Monch
10. Busta Rhymes
11. Elzhi
12. Mos Def
13. Aasim
14. Black Milk
15. Prodigy
16. Snoop Dogg
17. B-Real
18. Eazy-E
19. Krayzie Bone
20. Redman
21. Jay-Z
22. Twista
23. Erick Sermon
24. Termanology
25. Buk of Psychodrama

*I reserve the right to change my mind on any additions or omissions.

Wow the only Wu connection is Redman.

Would have thought Raekwon would be on your list.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 1:45 pm 
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I'll be working on my list later.


And I agree with both Kid and Krazy Ivan on Rakim.

Raekwon will be on my list, RPB. Probably 20-25.

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Bagels wrote:
that's actually a good point....there are people I excluded from my list because based on quantity....only putting out one great album is still pretty great, but when others have put out multiple great albums that's going to trump it

I immediately thought of Camp-Lo when I read your post.

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i always thought Andre the Giant was underrated

this is awesome
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-m0xExhw-G0


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rogers park bryan wrote:
Wow the only Wu connection is Redman.

Would have thought Raekwon would be on your list.

I completely blanked out on the Wu. Raek gets in based on Cuban Linx alone.
Raekwon is in. Erick Sermon is out.

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The Original Kid Cairo wrote:
Bagels wrote:
that's actually a good point....there are people I excluded from my list because based on quantity....only putting out one great album is still pretty great, but when others have put out multiple great albums that's going to trump it

I immediately thought of Camp-Lo when I read your post.



well that goes back to groups....maybe there should be another list of top groups. because i really couldn't single a 'great' rapper out of Pharcyde, Pete & CL, De La, Jungle Brothers, Stetsasonic, Camp Lo, etc....even EPMD neither of them are spectacular on their own but they work great together.


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How is Dre ahead of Jay-Z RPB? He doesn't even write his own rhymes. Hell Jay-Z writes some of them. Your dislike of Hova is shocking. How is Biggie ahead of Pac on any list? Did Big ever say something thought provoking?

Cairo has Jay 21st and Bagels doesnt have him on the list.

Im bringing his average UP


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The Original Kid Cairo wrote:
I immediately thought of Camp-Lo when I read your post.


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rogers park bryan wrote:
HOVA wrote:
How is Dre ahead of Jay-Z RPB? He doesn't even write his own rhymes. Hell Jay-Z writes some of them. Your dislike of Hova is shocking. How is Biggie ahead of Pac on any list? Did Big ever say something thought provoking?

Cairo has Jay 21st and Bagels doesnt have him on the list.

Im bringing his average UP


I did that just to piss HOVA off


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rogers park bryan wrote:
Cairo has Jay 21st and Bagels doesnt have him on the list.

Im bringing his average UP



Someone should average out the selections and come up with a master list...

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Krazy Ivan wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Cairo has Jay 21st and Bagels doesnt have him on the list.

Im bringing his average UP



Someone should average out the selections and come up with a master list...


there's only like 5 lists :lol:


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 1:57 pm 
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Bagels wrote:
Krazy Ivan wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Cairo has Jay 21st and Bagels doesnt have him on the list.

Im bringing his average UP



Someone should average out the selections and come up with a master list...


there's only like 5 lists :lol:

But they are well respected.

If we get 10

Spmack
Reg Reader
Free Ajent
Matches Malone
BigFan

We'll be good


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what about siniaclypse?


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Bagels wrote:
what about siniaclypse?



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Bagels wrote:
what about siniaclypse?

Fo sho, if he comes back.

Been gone a while

Im sure he'd have a ton of thoughts


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:lol: :lol:

is there something going on i'm unaware of? are you just saying because each selection would come with a 3 paragraph explanation ?


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Revised list including groups

1. Wu Tang Clan
2. Gangstarr
3. Nas
4. Eminem
5. N.W.A.
6. Biggie
7. Common
8. Cypress hill
9. Mobb Deep
10. 2pac
11. A Tribe Called Quest
12. Kanye
13. Rakim
14. Jay Z
15. Outkast
16. AZ
17. Killarmy
18. Too $hort
19. Snoop
20. Atmosphere
21. Kurrupt
22. Jedi Mind Tricks
23. Brother Ali
24. Royce
25. Bez


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Bagels wrote:
:lol: :lol:

is there something going on i'm unaware of? are you just saying because each selection would come with a 3 paragraph explanation ?

Catch up on the hip hop song of the day thread.


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Bagels wrote:
:lol: :lol:

is there something going on i'm unaware of? are you just saying because each selection would come with a 3 paragraph explanation ?



Yes. And we'd have no idea who any of his selections are because they'd all be his friends or some guy he got high with.



kidding, of course...

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Reg Reader

Reader stopped listening to rap in 1990. I think Chubb Rock was in heavy rotation.

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Bagels wrote:
:lol: :lol:

is there something going on i'm unaware of? are you just saying because each selection would come with a 3 paragraph explanation ?



Yes. And we'd have no idea who any of his selections are because they'd all be his friends or some guy he got high with.



kidding, of course...


:lol:

i think rather than muddy the waters by including groups there should just be a second list for groups....and if you still decide on listing individuals from groups on the original list that's up to you


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It would be hard for me to put together a list because I usually don't have favorites.

No favorite movie
No favorite musician
No favorite women
No favorite food

It would change day by day depending on how I feel.Bez would not be on my list.

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Bez would not be on my list.

:lol:

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Rakim is the greatest to me because to this day no MC has been able to revolutionize the way MCs flow on the mic like he did. Its like he time traveled to from present day back to the mid 80s with his rhyme style. Until someone changes the game the way he did he's gonna stay atop my list

As to why he fell off. He really didnt. Everyone just caught up by the early to mid 90s and he really didnt evolve. Didn't help that he disappeared for a while too.
Its kinda like the Wu. They were groundbreaking back in the 90s but peaked and never evolved with anything new as far as sounds go. They are at the same level now as they were in the mid 90s...everyone has since surpassed them as far as skill goes

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