You make all kinds of judgements based on zero knowledge.

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MacPhail had 2 rings as well. How did that work out??

As to Boston ownership, you feel that this long after the season they still are in over react mode? Maybe they realize a change is needed? Maybe they look at the hundreds of millions in free agent dollars spent by Theo and can't justify extending him?? Maybe just maybe the guy is overrated???

This has nothing to do with MacPhail. By that logic the Cubs should never hire anyone that has won a championship.

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
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So you have knowledge otherwise? Besides the Whiz Kid, who else is out there that FanBoy has even bothered to call let alone interview??

No, the point is having 2 rings guarantees NOTHING moving forward.

And respond to the Boston ownership questions...

The point is neither of us know who he has called and hasn't. Yet that does not stop you from making idiotic statements.

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well cashman has what? 4 rings?...i would take epstein and his 2 over cashman and his 4...i would take friedman and his none over both...friedman has proven he can build a team on a budget...you put those rays teams in the national league and he will not have zero rings for long..and he won't need 200 million dollar payroll to get it done

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Boston Red Sox Collapse: Why Theo Epstein Should Be Fired
By Trevor Medeiros(Contributor) on September 29, 2011

Next Public Enemy #1 in Red Sox Nation: Theo Epstein

It’s pretty fitting that it turned out this way, isn’t it?

The Red Sox became the first team ever to-blow a nine-game lead in September, and given how badly they choked this fall, it’s only appropriate that a team with not even half the payroll—the Tampa Bay Rays—is playoff-bound, while Boston is left sulking in the dugout, pointing fingers.

But they should only wag those digits at one person: Theo Epstein. Yes, I understand that in this epic collapse, nearly everyone is to blame. The problem is you can’t eliminate everybody; one or two figures must serve as the scapegoat.

Yes, many of the players are to blame for Boston’s pathetic collapse. For instance, Josh Beckett and John Lester simply aren’t as good as advertised, but just how many of these underachieving players can you get rid of? Who’s going to want John Lackey and Carl Crawford and their unmovable contracts?

With that said, maybe you can fire manager Terry Francona. But is this collapse really his fault? People have criticized Francona for his lax managerial style, but where were these critics when the Sox were down 3-0 to the Yankees in the 2004 ALCS?

If you can’t eliminate the players or the manager, then the hot seat belongs to GM Theo Epstein—and rightfully so. For starters, his track record with free agents is god-awful.

Lackey and Crawford, Edgar Renteria, Julio Lugo, JD Drew, Bobby Jenks—that’s just off the top of my head. And what about this week’s revelation from Sports Illustrated that Epstein—a Yale graduate, mind you—never makes a significant move without consulting his trusty computer, Carmine?

Of course those who defend Epstein will point out that he was in command when the Sox won it all both in 2004 and 2007. That’s fine and dandy, but what have you done for me lately?


Those championships don't matter much for 2011, especially when Boston is a city more obsessed with “winning!” than Charlie Sheen. Additionally, Epstein apologists will point out his draft history, which is decent.

Decent in the sense that, Lester, Clay Buchholz and Jonathan Papelbon are decent pitchers, nothing more; and decent in the sense that guys like Jed Lowrie and Kevin Youkilis—overvalued for their OBP—are decent punch-and-Judy hitters.

Maybe the most damning evidence against Epstein is that he assembled merely a decent roster in the offseason—despite having a payroll of roughly $180 million to play with.

For that alone, it’s time for him to go as Red Sox GM.

Ad hominem verbiage does not advance your arguments.

+ 1

And you have still failed to respond to the Boston ownership questions...

Andy McPhail did come with a winning pedigree. Anyone can fail or be cubbed. Thats all Mofo is saying IMO.


But CPguy either had Epstein nail his girlfriend or is a rabid anti semite.

Epstein has been successful in the draft through trades and free agency. He won 2 titles in 4 years and that credit goes to him



Oh and that contributor....is an absolute moron

Decent in the sense that, Lester, Clay Buchholz and Jonathan Papelbon are decent pitchers, nothing more; and decent in the sense that guys like Jed Lowrie and Kevin Youkilis—overvalued for their OBP—are decent punch-and-Judy hitters




That is one of the stupidest paragraphs in the history of words.
Of those decent players One has been in Cy Young consideration multiple years, one has been a dominant closer for 5 years, another has been in MVP conversations

Theo has had success in Boston but there is no doubting that he's been surrounded by a LOT of smart people and there are legitimate questions about how much of that success is attributed to him. Boston's front office has employed guys like Larry Lucchino, Allard Baird, Ben Cherington, Josh Daniels, Jed Hoyer and Bill James.

If the Cubs hire Theo do they have to spend more money to make up for his deficiencies or do they think he can have success with only Crane Kenney?

Just get the hell rid of Crane Kenney already. It is a god damn joke that he is even employed by the team.

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Isn't Ed Lynch still on the payroll?

Shut it Murph.

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That is a very impresive group of people and you make an excellent point. I have nothing against Epstein but the idea that he would be a savior is typical Cub wishdom.

Thankfully, he now scouts for Toronto. Rumor has it he recommended they trade Roy Halladay.

i think it was the right move to trade halladay..that team was not close to competing in that division with an ace like that..the question is ...who did they get in return from the trade

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An idiot thinks because we haven't heard anything it means Ricketts hasn't talked to anyone?

This is the same village idiot laden Chicago media that didn't even have Ventura on the radar for the Sox job.

Ricketts probably has interviewed dozens so far.

And by the way Ricketts wasn't even in town Saturday. So if Epstein was here maybe he was interviewing for a job at that Starbucks!

AS far as the Cubs getting Epstein because the Red Sox let him go isn't it time the Cubs or for that matter any Chicago team took advantage of another team's stupidity instead of the other way around?

But I wouldn't even think of sending them Castro as compensation as a writer in Boston suggested and the world's dumbest people support.

I actually prefer Friedman anyway. But Epstein is my 2nd choice. One reason to prefer Friedman is he won't cost any compensation.

Has there been any problems with the side of the team he is ACTUALLY involved with?

HE has nothing to do with the product on the field.

Who said that Epstein will be a savoir? There's an opening for the Cubs GM. It's reasonable to assume most Cubs fans want Tom to hire the best man for the job. I believe that's Theo by a narrow margin. That doesn't mean that I think he can 'save' the franchise, but it would be a significant step in the right direction towards building a consistent contender.

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No news is not good news. Things have been idle for days aside from the phantom Theo sighting at the Wrigleyville Starbucks.

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That's my purse! I don't know you!

I think he was doing his Jewish things. I hope. I think if it's going to be him, we will find out this week

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listened to mike & mike early this morning and the last question they asked their baseball expert (kirkjian?) was about Cubs GM/Theo.....and the one line response was that he (kirkjian) believes if the right offer is made, Theo is as good as gone. Take that for what its worth.

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Hendry's a bully

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If CSFMB were a radio show, this would be a drop

scapegoat by 2015.

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Fire Phil Emery

Joelsherman1 Joel Sherman
by dan_bernstein
Asked friend of Epstein if that was Theo spotted in Chi. Answer: "That would be a pretty good bet." #Cubs #Redsox

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