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Hank Scorpio

Post subject: Re: A Dance with Dragons

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 12:58 pm

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jackref wrote:

immessedup17 wrote:

I'm about 70% of the way through Game of Thrones according to my Kindle - it is fairly good so far, but it seems like a lot of the minor events in the story are solely to advance the plot...logically they don't make a lot of sense.

For example, minor spoiler:

Ned knowing the king is about to die, but still not telling him about his kids not being his. Throughout the story, as a character, Ned was always blunt. It would make no sense, knowing what was at stake, for him to keep his mouth shut until it was too late.

His best friend was already in immense pain and dying, why would he compound that by telling him the truth about his "kids" when there is nothing that Robert could do about it at that point. He couldn't tell Robert before because he had no proof. Quite convenient he got his proof and then there was a hunting accident.

Keep reading - not everything is revealed right away. Wheels within wheels...

Just imagine had Ned taken Renly's advice right off the bat.

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jackref

Post subject: Re: A Dance with Dragons

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 1:40 pm

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immessedup17 wrote:

Because Ned was all about being blunt and honest through the first 65% percent of the book, and though Robert never liked what Ned told him, Ned always told him anyways. It doesn't make sense for Ned's character to suddenly hide things.

I'll keep reading, I expect more twists and explanations - this is just one that seems created solely to add a couple hundred pages to the book.

He wasn't hiding anything, he was being compassionate for his friend. You are looking too much into that. And missing the bigger secret Ned is keeping

Also Martin doesn't need to add pages just for adding them. The story is big enough as it is without padding.

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Terry's Peeps

Post subject: Re: A Dance with Dragons

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 1:45 pm

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cough cough....Meereen....cough cough

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jackref

Post subject: Re: A Dance with Dragons

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 1:47 pm

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Terry's Peeps wrote:

cough cough....Meereen....cough cough

He wasn't padding though - he was just meandering.

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Post subject: Re: A Dance with Dragons

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 1:49 pm

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True.

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Hank Scorpio

Post subject: Re: A Dance with Dragons

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 1:50 pm

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Terry's Peeps wrote:

cough cough....Meereen....cough cough

Meereen never happened. They left Slaver's Bay after Yunkai and are wandering through the Dothraki Sea.

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Terry's Peeps

Post subject: Re: A Dance with Dragons

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 1:52 pm

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Hank Scorpio wrote:

Terry's Peeps wrote:

cough cough....Meereen....cough cough

Meereen never happened. They left Slaver's Bay after Yunkai and are wandering through the Dothraki Sea.

If only wishing made it so.

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Hank Scorpio

Post subject: Re: A Dance with Dragons

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 1:54 pm

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immessedup17 wrote:

STOP RUINING THE BOOKS!!!!!

Perhaps you should avoid a thread about the 5th book in a series in which you havent read the first book all the way thru yet.

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jackref

Post subject: Re: A Dance with Dragons

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 1:57 pm

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Hank Scorpio wrote:

immessedup17 wrote:

STOP RUINING THE BOOKS!!!!!

Perhaps you should avoid a thread about the 5th book in a series in which you havent read the first book all the way thru yet.

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Hank Scorpio

Post subject: Re: A Dance with Dragons

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 2:00 pm

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The show was actually pretty good. Jackref can tell you all about how in-depth they got with character development for the Blackfish. :lol:

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Terry's Peeps

Post subject: Re: A Dance with Dragons

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 2:00 pm

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No it doesn't.

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jackref

Post subject: Re: A Dance with Dragons

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 2:02 pm

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immessedup17 wrote:

Hank Scorpio wrote:

immessedup17 wrote:

STOP RUINING THE BOOKS!!!!!

Perhaps you should avoid a thread about the 5th book in a series in which you havent read the first book all the way thru yet.

I didn't want to make a new thread, nor use a thread about the TV show, which probably sucks dick and/or balls.

Hank you leave the Blackfish out of this!! /shake fist

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W_Z

Post subject: Re: A Dance with Dragons

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 6:59 pm

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how about that no one found it suspicious that none of the king's kids look like him...

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Terry's Peeps

Post subject: Re: A Dance with Dragons

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 8:06 pm

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W_Z wrote:

how about that no one found it suspicious that none of the king's kids look like him...

I think that when the king has a gigantic Warhammer, certain foibles like blonde haired children are overlooked.

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W_Z

Post subject: Re: A Dance with Dragons

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 8:08 pm

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including him...

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Terry's Peeps

Post subject: Re: A Dance with Dragons

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 8:45 pm

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W_Z wrote:

including him...

Dusty Baker sometime wrote:

Drunk all the time....

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Zizou

Post subject: Re: A Dance with Dragons

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 9:00 pm

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W_Z wrote:

how about that no one found it suspicious that none of the king's kids look like him...

You know nothing Wheaton Zack.

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W_Z

Post subject: Re: A Dance with Dragons

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 9:13 pm

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Terry's Peeps

Post subject: Re: A Dance with Dragons

Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 3:41 pm

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Hurry up.

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W_Z

Post subject: Re: A Dance with Dragons

Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 10:38 pm

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you're gonna have a hell of a time with "dance with dragons". there are even more random character POV throw ins. "feast" at least gets pretty consistent and i found it to be the easiest read.

then again, i LOL'd a whole lot through cersei's stuff and really enjoyed jamie's chapters.

a friend of mine is about 500 pages through storm. she goes, "i hope catelyn finds her sons soon!"

that book is so hard to talk about to anyone who isn't finished with it yet. there is so much that happens. i kinda want to read it again.

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Terry's Peeps

Post subject: Re: A Dance with Dragons

Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 9:09 am

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Yep.

The Winds of Winter-coming Fall 2020!

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W_Z

Post subject: Re: A Dance with Dragons

Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 1:23 pm

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i would hope there's a little more pressure on him now with the HBO show that it'll take him less than 5 years to complete "winds of winter".

the problem is that at this point he's clearly making it up as he goes along, so he needs to re-focus on what matters and wrap this thing up.

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Hank Scorpio

Post subject: Re: A Dance with Dragons

Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 4:03 pm

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I hope we get more Meereen back story in book 6. I am naming my next son Shakaz Lo Scorpio.

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Post subject: Re: A Dance with Dragons

Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 4:07 pm

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jackref

Post subject: Re: A Dance with Dragons

Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 6:38 pm

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Hank Scorpio wrote:

I hope we get more Meereen back story in book 6. I am naming my next son Shakaz Lo Scorpio.

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W_Z

Post subject: Re: A Dance with Dragons

Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 8:26 pm

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let's add honeyed locusts to the menu when we have our get together.

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Zizou

Post subject: Re: A Dance with Dragons

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 11:51 pm

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I know words are wind but I must needs show up. Would that I could if someone promised to fondle my small, firm breasts. Don't jape me because I'm as useless as nipples on a breastplate. If it please you I want this mummer's farce to end. Time to make water and break my fast.

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badrogue17

Post subject: Re: A Dance with Dragons

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 4:51 pm

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Joffrey really got all choked up at his wedding didn't he? Anyone have Cairo's address? I have a pigeon pie Id like to send him.

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Terry's Peeps

Post subject: Re: A Dance with Dragons

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 4:53 pm

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That's not nice.

I just sent one to Panthro.

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Zizou

Post subject: Re: A Dance with Dragons

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 11:52 pm

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Almost done re-reading Storm of Swords. The Hound's always been my favorite character and I hope he makes a comeback in the last two books of the series. I think he'd be a great POV character for a few chapters, which I'm sure would be named something cleverly vague like "The Gimp Brother With Half a Face."

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