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PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 11:45 pm 
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According to multiple industry sources, the Cubs are hiring scout Matt Dorey from the Red Sox. Dorey, who spent the last four years as a Red Sox area scout, will be a national cross-checker for Chicago.

Dorey, who started with the Sox (having been hired by former Sox director of amateur scouting Jason McLeod, who is now the Cubs assistant GM) in the Northwest in 2007 before moving to cover Louisiana and Texas in the last two years, was credited with the scouting and signing of a number of prominent Sox prospects in recent drafts, including 2010 picks Anthony Ranaudo, Garin Cecchini, Kendrick Perkins and Lucas LeBlanc.

At the time that he was introduced as Cubs president of baseball operations, Theo Epstein said that it was possible that he would bring over and promote one employee from the Red Sox. Dorey is the first person whom Epstein and the Cubs have added from the Boston baseball operations staff.

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The Reds, continuing their search for bullpen help, are talking to the Cubs about a trade for left-hander Sean Marshall, according to major-league sources.

The Cubs are targeting left-hander Travis Wood, a pitcher who intrigued team president Theo Epstein last season when Epstein was GM of the Red Sox, sources say.

It is not known whether other players might also be part of the deal.

Marshall, 29, has been one of the game’s top left-handed relievers the past two seasons. He will earn $3.1 million in 2012, then become eligible for free agency.

Wood, 24, endured two minor-league demotions last season, finishing 6-6 with a 4.84 ERA in 22 games with the Reds, 18 starts. He is expendable in part due to the Reds’ recent acquisition of Mat Latos from the Padres.

The Reds’ rotation currently includes right-handers Latos, Johnny Cueto, Bronson Arroyo, Mike Leake and Homer Bailey, and the team also plans to look at lefty Aroldis Chapman as a starter in spring training.

Marshall, who had a 2.26 ERA in 75 2/3 innings last season, likely would remain a setup man for the Reds. General manager Walt Jocketty has said that the team continues to look for a closer; the return of free agent Francisco Cordero remains a possibility.

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Very interesting. I was impressed with what I saw from Wood last year. The Reds need to throw in something else though.

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Very interesting. I was impressed with what I saw from Wood last year. The Reds need to throw in something else though.


Agreed. That "fly ball pitcher" tag is not good in Wrigley in the warm weather. They should be able to get more for Marshall for sure.


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Bruce tweeted Wood and a prospect or 2.

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that is not enough for marshall...when does this bum kerry wood get released?

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Bruce tweeted Wood and a prospect or 2.

Hopefully at least 1 of the prospects is a premium one. Marshall is a great trade chip.


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Despite playing on the Reds, I can't say I remember much about this Wood kid.

If the Sox made this move, bigfan would be all over KW bashing him for this move. Saying that Kenny is trying to luck out again with another busted prospect.

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Glad to see this. He is a great guy to have on the bench. And for a one year deal. Perfect.

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Another Christmas Miracle! Thanks,Theo.

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This move tells me Brett Jackson has been determined not ready. I'd rather he's getting everyday AB's at AA, as I agree with that theory.

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This move tells me Brett Jackson has been determined not ready. I'd rather he's getting everyday AB's at AA, as I agree with that theory.


I don't think that is necessarily true. Jackson could be the starter and you have Reed on the bench. And if Jackson shows he is not ready for the big leagues yet then you have a veteran who can step in and do a decent job filling in.

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This move tells me Brett Jackson has been determined not ready. I'd rather he's getting everyday AB's at AA, as I agree with that theory.


I don't think that is necessarily true. Jackson could be the starter and you have Reed on the bench. And if Jackson shows he is not ready for the big leagues yet then you have a veteran who can step in and do a decent job filling in.


Reed isn't a starter now. Unless Soriano or Byrd are moved. Even if they are, Reed won't be starting. That could give Jackson the starting spot.

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While it pissed me off to no end when Quade would march him out there all the time last year I am fine with this as long as...

1. He does not block the path of Jackson

2. Dewitt is axed, just because

3. Travis Wood is acquired so they have to stitch K. Wood on Kerry's Jersey.

4. Either Soriano or Byrd are removed from the roster before they break camp.

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So with Kaplan saying this, they should announce signing Fielder soon. :lol:

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After speaking with several baseball sources over the past few days I am hearing that a complete and total rebuild of the Cubs is more likely than ever to take place during the remainder of the off-season. I have confirmed that Sean Marshall is definitely on the block and he is well aware of that fact. The latest speculation has Marshall going to the Reds but those same sources do not believe that a deal for left-handed starter Travis Wood is as close as has been portrayed.

However, Marshall along with several other players on the Cubs roster are all being shopped as Theo Epstein, Jed Hoyer, and company look to maximize their value as they look to completely overhaul the team. In speaking with a current major league executive from outside Chicago who would only speak with me on the condition of anonymity he was brutally honest in evaluating where the Cubs are right now.

“If you are completely honest about the current roster that Theo and Jed inherited I don’t see more than a handful of pieces that a championship type team would want to have on their roster. Garza, Castro, Marshall, perhaps Marmol if they can get his wildness under control, and maybe another bullpen piece or two and that’s about it,” he told me.

As I questioned him further he told me that the talk around baseball when it comes to the Cubs is that they need a full scale house cleaning. “There is no doubt that the Cubs need a major overhaul and with that comes a couple of seasons of teams that will have more than its share of struggles. However, if Theo and Jed can make astute deals for the few pieces that they do have the rebuild can get off to a very good start. In the addition, the farm system is not in good shape in terms of nearly major league ready starting pitching so if they can make some very solid deals they can reload in the minor leagues as well,” he said.

A look at the current makeup of the Cubs roster shows a handful of big contracts that the Cubs are having trouble trying to move despite their willingness to eat significant portions of the remaining dollars. From Alfonso Soriano to Carlos Zambrano, to Ryan Dempster, the Cubs have approximately $50 million tied up in players who do not figure to be a part of their future when they are ready to win. Add in Marshall, Carlos Marmol and Marlon Byrd along with a handful of others who do not figure to be a part of the Cubs long term future and you have current 2012 salary commitments that total $72,850,000. Add in deals that would have to get done with Matt Garza, Geovany Soto, and others who are arbitration eligible and the Cubs 2012 payroll climbs into the 90+ million dollar range.

Now with that much money already committed you have a 71 win team from 2011 that has lost one of its top power bats in Carlos Pena and has only added David DeJesus and Ian Stewart which cannot at this point be considered major additions to the roster. The starting pitching is still among baseball’s worst and the everyday lineup has a number of holes in it. Question marks include first base, third base, left field, at least two if not three spots in the rotation and a couple of spots in the bullpen.

That doesn’t include the question marks that occupy the other positions of the current team. Is Soto really worth the $4-5 million or so that he will earn in 2012 and is he the catcher of the future? Is Darwin Barney the long-term answer at 2nd base?

A look at the pitching staff shows more questions that need answers such as the closer role where Marmol has a world of talent but is coming off of a horrific 2011 when he blew 10 saves and saw his K’s per 9 innings drop by four strikeouts from his record-setting 2010 season. Is he the long-term answer in that role or could the Cubs get a solid return if they were to move him in a deal?

The Cubs roster is devoid of impact position players with the exception of Starlin Castro. So the question that must be asked is does it make sense for Epstein and Hoyer to spend significant dollars to try to patchwork a lineup that has virtually no chance of contending? Or should they use this one opportunity to truly tear the team down to its foundation and rebuild it the right way knowing that major on field success is a few years away?

One thing that Tom Ricketts has shown in his statements to the media and the fan base ever since he purchased the franchise is that he is in this for the long haul so from that perspective a complete rebuild makes a lot of sense. When Epstein spoke to the media before the winter meetings he gave this assessment of the potential for the Cubs to sign a free agent to a mega contract. “We’ve been consistent from Day 1 that our priorities are building this thing the right way, for the long haul, mainly through scouting and player development and through the acquisition of young players. The second priority is to take advantage of every opportunity to win that you have. But we’re not going to do anything to serve the second priority that disrupts the first. So any rumor that you hear, it’s probably worth your while to assess it through that lens. Not saying that we’re not going to make a move that might be unanticipated or catch people by surprise or might not on its face fit perfectly into that box. But generally that’s our philosophy. That’s how we’re evaluating moves as we try to build this thing.”

Two other sources confirmed to me today that the Cubs are not players in the Prince Fielder negotiations and are not preparing to make a major offer to land him. In fact, the same major league sources expect the Cubs to try to move most of their valuable assets before spring training and that a complete overhaul of the team will definitely happen. As one current NL executive told me it is about time that it happened. “The Cubs have never had the guts to completely blow up their roster and build it the right way. They have to have a plan for sustained success instead of always trying to patchwork a roster for a surprising season. They should have done that when Andy MacPhail took over but for whatever reason they couldn’t or wouldn’t. By the time Jim Hendry became the GM they had some young starting pitching and a mandate from management in 2006-09 to try to buy their way to a championship. It never worked out so the rebuild is the right way to go,” he said.

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Kaplan can go away already. He doesn't even have his source anymore.

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im fine with trading current veteran players with value for young players and signing others to 1-year deals to fill remaining roster spots. So far i think they have the right idea. i think corpas and reed johnson are good signings for a team that seems to be committed to rebuilding. you need to have some veteran players to round out a roster, and 1-year contracts are the best way to do that.

i am pleased that the new cubs management havent fallen for the big "flashy" signing. the moves they are making arent glamorous, but i think i like the plan so far. id love to see a move made for rizzo. i know he is far from a sure thing, but this team could use a young left-handed power hitter with some potential. i would have liked yonder alonso more, but i love the idea of trying to get guys BEFORE they become productive and expensive free agents.

i havent been over-the-top with love for epstein like some, but so far so good for the things the cubs HAVENT done almost as much as for the things they have done.


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Now get in there and sell! Sell! Sell!


Hey, Theo, there is no such thing as a no sale call. A sale is made on every call you make. Either you sell the GM on some player or he sells you that guy was signed or drafted by Jim Hendry. Either way a sale is made, the only question is who is gonna close? You or him? Now be relentless, that's it, I'm done.

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im fine with trading current veteran players with value for young players and signing others to 1-year deals to fill remaining roster spots. So far i think they have the right idea. i think corpas and reed johnson are good signings for a team that seems to be committed to rebuilding. you need to have some veteran players to round out a roster, and 1-year contracts are the best way to do that.

i am pleased that the new cubs management havent fallen for the big "flashy" signing. the moves they are making arent glamorous, but i think i like the plan so far. id love to see a move made for rizzo. i know he is far from a sure thing, but this team could use a young left-handed power hitter with some potential. i would have liked yonder alonso more, but i love the idea of trying to get guys BEFORE they become productive and expensive free agents.

i havent been over-the-top with love for epstein like some, but so far so good for the things the cubs HAVENT done almost as much as for the things they have done.


it all adds up to the Pittsburh Pirates for the last 18 years. Let's see what Cub fans say in June.

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it all adds up to the Pittsburh Pirates for the last 18 years. Let's see what Cub fans say in June.


I will settle for a couple Pirate years if it means building a solid healthy organization that can compete on a yearly basis.

Cub fans have complained for years that the team would never really blow things up and start over. Now we have a group of guys in the front office that are attempting to do that very thing and people still complain.

So Jimmy, what would be your plan?

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I don't believe he is very good. The contract is said to be "split"? I have no idea what that means. It isn't guaranteed either. If he pitches well during the spring he can work out of the pen and if he sucks he can go away. The one thing I do know is that he isn't worse than the giant pile of shit that made up the Iowa AAA pitching staff last year.

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I don't believe he is very good. The contract is said to be "split"? I have no idea what that means. .


A split contract is one that has two pay rates one rate is for games where the player is in the major leagues. The other half of the deal is minor league pay when the player is in the minors.

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Just depth moves. Both cheap. Sonnanstine was a 13th round pick by Tampa, so maybe a change of scenery will do him good. Neither one of them has any particularly impressive stats. But hard react to this more than just a shoulder shrug

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