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 Post subject: Marshall Traded
PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 4:30 pm 
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Per Bruce, deal is done, for Sean Marshall for Travis Wood + 2 Minor Leaguers

Pending physicals

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We got double wood.

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T Wood

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 Post subject: Re: Marshall Traded
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Anytime you can get a guy thats a young Charlie Liebrant.....you make that deal.

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 Post subject: Re: Marshall Traded
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Marshall was solid. guys like him don't grow on trees but hopefully the ML guys are solid players,too.

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 Post subject: Re: Marshall Traded
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His #1 similarity is Phil Humber. KW got Phil Humber for free. Enjoy that genius executive hire.

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 Post subject: Re: Marshall Traded
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I'm good with this. Marshall was too much of a luxury for a team that has this many holes.

As long as the minor-leaguers are decent prospects.

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His #1 similarity is Phil Humber. KW got Phil Humber for free. Enjoy that genius executive hire.

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 Post subject: Re: Marshall Traded
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Granted T Wood is no Nestor Molina, I mean he has actually pitched in the big leagues.

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I was always a huge fan of Marshall's (Matt Murton too) and never understood why the Cubs never gave him a fair shake as a starter.

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KW got Phil Humber for free. Enjoy that genius executive hire.


KW probably got Robin Ventura for free, too. Enjoy that genius hire.

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 Post subject: Re: Marshall Traded
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The Padres got all their top guys but these two better be the best of the rest to trade one of the best left handed set up men in the NL.


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The Padres got all their top guys but these two better be the best of the rest to trade one of the best left handed set up men in the NL.

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 Post subject: Re: Marshall Traded
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Keyser Soze wrote:
The Padres got all their top guys but these two better be the best of the rest to trade one of the best left handed set up men in the NL.


Travis Wood isn't a full on reclamation project. The Reds probably brought him up too quickly resulting in him learning at the MLB level. He could be great...after he leaves the Cubs.

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 Post subject: Re: Marshall Traded
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 Post subject: Re: Marshall Traded
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I like it. Time to get what you can for the guys with some tradeability.


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I like it. Time to get what you can for the guys with some tradeability.


This.

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 Post subject: Re: Marshall Traded
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Marshall is an excellent lefty out of the pen......right now. He is great to have right now on a team that will actually compete but I don't think he is of any great value to a team that is in the early stages of a total rebuild.

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 Post subject: Re: Marshall Traded
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THIS TEAM SUCKS I CAN'T BELIEVE I NEED TO WATCH THIS CRAP ALL OF THE TIME I AM SO PISSED THE CUBS ARE SO FAR AWAY FROM CONTENDING TRADE EVERYONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Chicago Cubs trade a middle relief pitcher....

OH MY GOD I CANT BELIEVE THEY WOULD TRADE SEAN MARSHALL THAT GUY IS A GREAT PITCHER HE IS NOT THE PROBLEM HERE.....I WANTED THEM TO TRADE THOSE OTHER GUYS.....YEAH THE ONES WITH THE HUGE CONTRACTS WHO SUCK AT BASEBALL THAT NOBODY WANTS.....I DIDNT WANT TO ACTUALLY TRADE PLAYERS THAT HAVE ACTUAL TRADE VALUE

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 Post subject: Re: Marshall Traded
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We got double wood.


not quite... there's a slight hangup with the man that many here affectionately know as "woody" in that after his sweetheart andredawsonblankcheckredeux 1yr contract last year, he's looking for a "market value" contract this year.

in other words, ~1-1.25mil/yr ain't gonna cut it for our guy kerry this time around.

right off the bat we're gonna find out just how much theo values "the proud tradition of the chicago cubs" by seeing how much he's willing to give a guy who wants to be a "cubs lifer" more than anything else. it's almost like a war of wills... who has the juice to call the dollar amount? how much can kerry get just because he's kerry wood he's a "cubs guy" and he's already given you either one or two sweetheart hometown discount deals during his quest to become a "cubs lifer" ?!?!

hopefully theo takes care of him, insomuchas he's still a good solid bullpen arm with closer experience who could make marmol that much more tradeable (hint hint)

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Hank Scorpio wrote:
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not quite... there's a slight hangup with the man that many here affectionately know as "woody" in that after his sweetheart andredawsonblankcheckredeux 1yr contract last year, he's looking for a "market value" contract this year.

in other words, ~1-1.25mil/yr ain't gonna cut it for our guy kerry this time around.

right off the bat we're gonna find out just how much theo values "the proud tradition of the chicago cubs" by seeing how much he's willing to give a guy who wants to be a "cubs lifer" more than anything else. it's almost like a war of wills... who has the juice to call the dollar amount? how much can kerry get just because he's kerry wood he's a "cubs guy" and he's already given you either one or two sweetheart hometown discount deals during his quest to become a "cubs lifer" ?!?!

hopefully theo takes care of him, insomuchas he's still a good solid bullpen arm with closer experience who could make marmol that much more tradeable (hint hint)


Well they just cleared about 2.75 mil of bullpen salary.

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THIS TEAM SUCKS I CAN'T BELIEVE I NEED TO WATCH THIS CRAP ALL OF THE TIME I AM SO PISSED THE CUBS ARE SO FAR AWAY FROM CONTENDING TRADE EVERYONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Chicago Cubs trade a middle relief pitcher....

OH MY GOD I CANT BELIEVE THEY WOULD TRADE SEAN MARSHALL THAT GUY IS A GREAT PITCHER HE IS NOT THE PROBLEM HERE.....I WANTED THEM TO TRADE THOSE OTHER GUYS.....YEAH THE ONES WITH THE HUGE CONTRACTS WHO SUCK AT BASEBALL THAT NOBODY WANTS.....I DIDNT WANT TO ACTUALLY TRADE PLAYERS THAT HAVE ACTUAL TRADE VALUE

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K.Wood will get a 1 yr/ $3.5M deal eventually. But the Cubs don't care at the moment because they know he won't sign with anyone else.


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K.Wood will get a 1 yr/ $3.5M deal eventually. But the Cubs don't care at the moment because they know he won't sign with anyone else.


you don't think wood could get 4-5? for some reason i keep on thinking he's thinking he's worth somewhere in the $5-7mil/yr range, so i hope he could at least get $4mil/year from them.

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I wonder if they are still in play for Maholm? Do they want 2 lefties in the rotation? Who will be out of the rotation because it would stand at 6 if they got Maholm.

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I wonder if they are still in play for Maholm? Do they want 2 lefties in the rotation? Who will be out of the rotation because it would stand at 6 if they got Maholm.


Supposedly taking to Jeff Francis as well. Don't know if they will get either with this trade, however.


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I wonder if they are still in play for Maholm? Do they want 2 lefties in the rotation? Who will be out of the rotation because it would stand at 6 if they got Maholm.

I think they are serious about trying to move Garza

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I wonder if they are still in play for Maholm? Do they want 2 lefties in the rotation? Who will be out of the rotation because it would stand at 6 if they got Maholm.


Supposedly taking to Jeff Francis as well. Don't know if they will get either with this trade, however.


I forgot about Cashner returner as well. Something else is going down if they pick up another fairly cheap starter like Maholm or Francis.

The starters under contract would then be as of right now:

Wells
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Cashner
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Big Z

I thought I also heard talk of them making Shark a starter again.

If they are in fact stuck with Z and have no option but to keep him or cut him and eat all that money I would be tempted to trade Marmol and see how he does closing. He might end up being really good at it. Alot of his weaknesses as a starter could be turned into strengths as a closer. He would be expensive as hell for a closer but that is really beside the point if the other option is to cut him and eat all the money.

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