Yes, this includes Lovie!

The only asset on this team is Cutler and maybe Peppers, but in the NFL world Peppers is getting old fast as well (32). Sure he can play for another 3-5 years if he wants, the guy is a total beast.

The point being that the focus of this rebuild needs to be on the offense and around Cutler, This needs to be done as an organization. That means the GM and Coach need to focus on players that make the star QB better and I don't think either of these guys are capable of this.

Lovies "Make the bad teams beat us and get our asses kicked by the few really good teams, which results in a 15 above .500 record and thus everyone thinks I am a good coach" Cover 2 can leave as well.

This organization has never had an offensive focus and this entire group from ownership on down has no clue.

Being that the McHalas's will never sell the team, because they have no other marketable talents in life, then we need a new Team president and go from there.

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"That's what the internet is for. Slandering others anonymously." Banky
“Been that way since one monkey looked at the sun and told the other monkey ‘He said for you to give me your fuckin’ share.’”

agreed, one (lucky) post season appearance in the last 5 years..and they beat the worst team to ever make the playoffs..fire them all.let forte walk.

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Biggie, I understand and agree with a lot of what you say in your post, but as long as the playing surface in chicago is maintained by the park district mafia there will never be good offensive football played @ soldiers field.

Ill say it over and over. This pocket of the midwestern US has some of the best fresh soil in the fucking world. W/e excuse for that atrocious field in chicago you here, do not believe it. The Chicago Fire have a better playing surface than the bears. That's all you need to know. Arghhhhhhh!

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guess you missed the patriots/bears game last year

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33-0 at the half.

Pats and Brady , one of the great "Mudders/Snowers" of all time.

JBills, you are bringing up an issue that would be correct if the offensive mindset existed from a football person being in charge and not the family accountant who knows what needs to be sent out to little Timmy McCaskey each year and thats the team priority.

This is the issue, the focus of this team. The constant need to draft defensive players (That fail) has put this team in such a hole that an extended collapse is coming.

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"That's what the internet is for. Slandering others anonymously." Banky
“Been that way since one monkey looked at the sun and told the other monkey ‘He said for you to give me your fuckin’ share.’”

i don't think the bears wanted any part of that game.

The constant small school sleeper pick bullshit is getting old too... If angelo & co could draft any sort of offensive talent this team would be in such a better spot right now... It is a fireable offense for @ least Angelo.

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"Beast" players show up every week & dominate their opponent. Peppers didn't show up for 7 games this season. That is unacceptable & just not good enough.

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We don’t have a trillion-dollar debt because we haven’t taxed enough; we have a trillion-dollar debt because we spend too much. — Ronald Reagan

He's been playing on a bum leg for a decent chunk of the year.

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Lovie is going to live and die with Peppers, Urlacher, Tillman, Briggs and Hester. They have 2 more years of life left in that group. He will finish his contract and then move on and all of those then ancient guys will either retire or play solely for a paycheck.

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Don't know if it's even 2 years and it's going to get really ugly. I agree with bf and Beebo in the other thread.

Agreed. It's going to get real ugly next year unless a new hierarchy takes over and hits on every single draft pick and free agent signing. And don't forget another new offense. What a joke this organization is.

Lovie has proven that he can win consistently with an average to above average team. BF and I may have watched different games this season but the Bears didn't have a problem beating good teams. Their problem was beating the bad teams after the injuries to Forte and Cutler. I made a joking reference to it a few weeks ago but Lovie coached teams routinely suck after major injuries to key positions. Lack of depth is the problem. This team was CLEARLY heading in the right direction before the Cutler injury. The defense was great until last week. They need to fill holes and improve the depth at key positions but the core of this team still has 2 years left to win. That's a long time in the NFL. If Cutler gets better that window may be longer because he can cover up hopes on the defense like elite QB's do.

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I'll say it once and I'll say it again, the Lovie will not be fired. He will leave on his own accord and may coach in Chicago for the remainder of his career.

The D-Line needs playmakers. If the D-line was decent (see the Chiefs), maybe Godgers wouldn't have thrown 5 fucking TD's.The O-line needs playmakers. They need one, just one #1 receiver and I think the Offense could perform even better than this year. Forte and Bell/Allen could make a difference next season as well.

There is no doubt Jerry Angelo has fucked this team and consequently, the Bears fans. He is incompetent not only with draft picks, but in dealing with the other GM's in the NFL (see the Baltimore debacle) and is seen as a buffoon from all angles.

The new McCaskey (whatever his first name is) is in an interesting position. He can choose to continue the stupid and inept management style the other dillholes have taken, or he can take the Rocky Wirtz approach and hire competent people and make smart moves to provide depth and immediate skill to a team that is just on the cusp of being a great team. Yes I said great, but not Packers-great yet.

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RFDC thinks I'm retarded.

OK, the Lovie ALS needs to go away to. Lovie is a defensiveness minded coach. Play good D, run the Ball, control the line, it's a solid recipe for winning a majority of games in the NFL. Thus resulting in a solid record for Lovie smith. A little Jauron like.

Keep the WR's in front of you, let the other team make mistakes, take the ball away, put them in 3rd and long, it's all great and against a majority of the teams in the NFL it is a great way to win games and keep your job.

BUT

there always is a team that throws, throws and throws. They will require man coverage because they will find the soft points in your zone/cover 2, they will send 3,4 and 5 WR's out and make you look silly.

These teams will require a powerful offense to compete with them and nothing about the Chicago Bears says Offense! Nothing! Nobody! Not one person! Not even Martz anymore who has one offensive plan, but it require bringing back Holy, Bruce and Hakim!

Earl Bennett could not play in this offense because he didnt understand it for a whole year? Per the Bears. Earl Bennett is the all time SEC receptions leader and played with Cutler in College , but per all the Bears people he could not play after being drafted int he 3rd round????

yet, Johnny Knox, who came out of nowhere, played at Abilene Chrsitian, was all good to go and even Devin Hester, who I think still has no clue, he was ready to play some WR in year 1?????

The examples of Offensive mishaps goes on and on! and the focus needs to change!!!!!!!!!

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"That's what the internet is for. Slandering others anonymously." Banky
“Been that way since one monkey looked at the sun and told the other monkey ‘He said for you to give me your fuckin’ share.’”

In New York they want Coughlins ass, and he won a Super Bowl Here he's a good coach We settle for mediocrity here and as fans we shouldn't

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

I am not part of the Lovie ALS, i just believe he will never be fired no matter how bad the Bears get.

I just saw on Twitter that per NFP Angelo would not be fired, but major changes will be made. That means they will just throw money at some veteran to placate the masses. If that is the case, maybe I'll just not spend much time watching the team or spending money on the Bears. I wish the fans could do something, but we're all screwed.

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RFDC thinks I'm retarded.

We all can be emotional and overreact to everything or we can see things as they are. Bears were averaging 27 points a game before Cutler went down and most critics would acknowledge the offense had turned the corner. Cutler and the rest of the key guys had become comfortable. Why blow that up? Why make Cutler go through another change and growing pains? Their 7-3 record says all you need to know. If you take away a team star QB and RB they're going to have major problems. Look no further than the annual 10 win Colts. Cutler and the Bears offense will be fine. An aging defense is more of a concern going forward.

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They haven't made the playoffs in 3 years and Manning has been healthy. They've consistently choked down the stretch.

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The Bears need to add more to the offense than to the D. BF was right in that the Pats and the Packers have lousy defenses but are still powerhouses. the Bears need a Brandon Marshall or a Plaxico Burress next year to give the offense more firepower.
Major Wright and Merriweather need to go. Steltz can stay with Conte and maybe they can replace Jennings with a better option.
They also need to follow the current trend and utilize their TEs. I think Davis has potential as another option for Cutler.

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RFDC thinks I'm retarded.

So according to Moon, Angelo is coming back Have fun with that He has apparenly Crane Kenney'ed himself into good favor with family.

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That's my purse! I don't know you!

Not overreacting at all. The record is not always the final judgement here. Dick jaurons 13-3 season, was that because he was a great coach? Kyle Ortons rookie season record?

And more than anything, seeing the Bears sneak into and win some playoff games v Seattle and New orleans, then both times running into teams that can just outscore them.

We have seen how the Cover 2 works. Drop 7 guys and try to drive the field. We bet you will make a mistake on your protection, routes, dropped balls, etc before you score.

Maybe the Cover 2 is fine with a real offense, but if we make no effort to have a real offense, then whats the point?

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"That's what the internet is for. Slandering others anonymously." Banky
“Been that way since one monkey looked at the sun and told the other monkey ‘He said for you to give me your fuckin’ share.’”

agreed, i think the majority of bears fans want lovie gone with angelo and a total house cleaning..andy reid is also on the hot seat and has a better record than lovie. smith is jeff fisher..he is not the worst coach in the nfl or the best but will never win a super bowl as a head coach.

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As I have said dozens of times before, everything goes back to leadership, & the Bears have none. The McCaskeys, Ted Phillips, Jerry Angelo, & Lovie Smith make up a Management team that is completely devoid of leadership. We are told that the players like playing for Lovie, but that is all crap. No one knows how the players really feel. The stories that I have heard, & my sources are ex Bears players who will remain anonymous, is that many Bears players think Lovie is a back stabbing 2 faced snake who is close to no one in the organization, & who doesn't have any close relationships in the Bears organization with either coaches or players.
Phillips, Angelo, & Smith don't have a chance of getting hired in the same capacity by another team. They are all peter principle guys who are in positions one level above their level of competency.
I would like to believe that sooner or later the McCaskeys would tire of the current state of the Bears & do a major re-organization like companies do when they are failing. I'd like to believe that the McCaskeys are getting close to the point where they no longer can tolerate the negative press & fan reaction to Jerry & Lovie.
The Bears had the chance to hire Jim Harbaugh last year & didn't. That was a huge mistake. Many of you have given me shit about my Man crush on Jim Harbaugh, but most of you now would trade Lovie in a fucking second for Jimmy H. & you know it. Harbaugh in year 1 is a better head football coach than Lovie is in year 8.
Hopefully the Bears will clean house & bring in a new regime.

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We don’t have a trillion-dollar debt because we haven’t taxed enough; we have a trillion-dollar debt because we spend too much. — Ronald Reagan

You are preaching to the choir but I just dont think the McCaskeys have the desire to do this. When Lovie was hired his sole goal was to beat the Packers. He is now 8-9 versus them and they clearly cannot keep pace with them without making some HUGE changes to the Offense and Defense as well as the Management staff. I have no faith in the Bears and therefore will endure years of assbeatings from the Packers until Rodgers retires. The Bears mantra should be to copy what the Pack doing as it is obviously working well.

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RFDC thinks I'm retarded.

the bears were beating up on a bad division when the pack was rebuilding and the lions were trying to clean up the rubble left by that moron matt millen..the bears are in for a dim future under these clowns.

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But where would the Bears find a Burrito GM like the Packers did?

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CSFMB 2014 Nascar Pick 'em Champion

We don’t have a trillion-dollar debt because we haven’t taxed enough; we have a trillion-dollar debt because we spend too much. — Ronald Reagan

that pompous prick lovie snapping on reporters, never understood why these soft ass reporters kiss this clowns ass.

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