Why do some people seem to think that Webio destroyed the careers of anyone associated with it besides Hernandez? Nothing happened that would cause future employers to be unwilling to hire any of them. Of course some people made bad career moves but that's not unique to this. Leaving a station with 15 years of history and a deep pocketed owner and going to an internet radio station is always going to be a major risk. If I quit my job to work for some new startup company with no revenue or established business model I would be looking for other employment if it failed. I think it's easy to put it all on Mike North but every person who jumped on had to know that this was not only possible but probable.

There is no reason to think that anyone who jumped to Webio isn't working now because of what happened. They made a bad decision and for whatever reason no other door opened up for them but that's life. They all knew what they were doing though. If you have a job that you are happy with and has a bright future don't leave it or you may not be able to get it back especially in a competitive industry like they were in.

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Yeah, as much of a douchebag as North is, it's easy to blame him. Those guys were all grown men. It makes them feel less stupid to say it was all North's fault.

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I think they're referring to Matt Weber and Tim Bock. Those are the only ones who I believe are no longer in radio anymore.....Jen doesn't count.

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What is Matt Weber doing these days? Last we heard from him wasn't he talking smack about how easy it was to be a house wife?

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Perhaps those who went with him did so because their prospects were already limited?

Even if you blame him for Webio being bad how can you blame him for not being able to find a different job?

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The blame would come from leaving a secure job in their chosen field. Right or wrong I don't know. I see their point.

Because it fits with the vilification of North

I tend to agree. I think there is a lot to say for someone who remains loyal to a secure company instead of jumping ship when a newer flashy start-up rears its head in the market.

People have to make their own decisions and live with it. I agree with that premise, and it certainly applies here.

That said, it is my belief, based on absolutely nothing really....that North "recruited" these guys. North was spiteful and trying to hurt the WSCR by taking away people & "talent" (term used loosely). I'm sure he "sold" these guys on the big mahogony table and more big mahogony tables in the future. I don't think he lied to them, because I think he believed it himself. I just think that North influenced these guys and they jumped. I assume they all learned a valuable lesson.

Again...I put the blame on the individuals. You have to make decisions for yourself....and I think they all just thought they were hitching on to North's money train when they were really hitching on to a boat anchor.

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Shorty George had a sweet spot at WSCR. He was probably making close to six figures. That's something he'll likely never see again. At least not in the radio update business. I could see a guy like him being aggravated with a friend who he trusted, but that's as far as it goes. It's not something to end a friendship over.

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I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Matthew, Tulsi, and Don

Their point is that it is Mike North's fault they left a secure job?

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I would ask George why he left then

Apparently he felt the risk was worth it.

Just a dumb decision.

They probably felt duped. Who knows what North said? He might have lied or knew (should have known) some of what was going on and he has a better chance to bounce back from it. It's about feelings more than anything, breach of trust, hurt, anger, being let down, disappointment, or loss. They may not be reasonable but it could be how they feel. I don't really expect you to understand it though.

6 figure job for being an update guy/beat reporter is too good a gig to give up on a longshot.

75% Hernandez and 25% North

Guy is involved in a startup and he comes to you as an "owner" which Mike did, he takes a good chunk of blame

Didnt he and his wife hold executive titles? Pres? VP? etc

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Some of those feelings might be valid but how did that stop them from recovering?

In hindsight, going to webio was a bad decision for everyone but none of them were stopped from finding future employment in the radio industry because of it. That is what I don't get. It is not North's fault that there weren't opportunities for others after it ended.

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Right. We're all big boys. He was looking for a bigger better deal. But it is understandable for a guy like him to say to himself, "That's what I get for listening to dumbass Mike." It's easier than saying, "I'm a moron" or even "I took a bad risk".

There are leaders and there are followers. Followers need someone to follow. Nobody was blaming North when they were eating company-sponsored ribeyes at Gibsons. They probably weren't even thanking him. Especially the younger guys. They probably thought they had it coming.

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I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Matthew, Tulsi, and Don

This is true to a point. Mike certainly doesn't have control over what job openings other stations have, however he may have had more "control" over persuading people from leaving a solid company.

still hoping that north has to pay back every penny he took from the ponzi scam that was sportswebio. he was front and center and put his wife right in the middle as the COO knowing full well bebe had zero qualifications for that job. then when it came out that next step staffing was a scam, north distanced himself, saying it was all hernandez fault.

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Offman and Weber had offers coming in left and right...then Webio happened.

Is there any Webio Stigma on people? Like if a webio guy goes for a job, do people think they must be retards for working there so they're too dumb for this job?

It should be the opposite, they should be lauded for attaching themselves to Mike North, THE ONLY MAN WHO HAD THE BALLS TO SEE THE FUTURE OF RADIO!!!

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What? How do you have control over persuading someone?

Of course he helped persuade them but they all made their own choice. Even still, he didn't stop a single person from finding employment afterwards so I don't see how what I said is only true to a point. It's 100% true. You can't blame him for them not having other options. That's on them.

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That's kind of what I see. It's a limited business with a lot of competition. They left a secure place even if it was just a foot in the door job for nothing. Then what? Start where?

Everyone ultimately made their own choice with Webio. I don't disagree with you there. However, North obviously sold the idea to a group of people who were unhappy with their current situation or intrigued by what "could be". Just like any decent salesman, North created the illusion of pain in the minds of those who made the move.

And I also agree that he personally can't stop anyone else from finding employement elsewhere. I would assume many have tried. But everyone knows everyone else in the media industry, and I am sure word got around pretty quickly about why certain people decided to leave the SCORE. Potential employers may look at those individuals as someone who wouldn't necessarily be loyal. That's just an assumption by me, of course.

HE DID DIVERSIFY BY BRINGING IN JHOOD'S FAT ASS. RETARD.

PLUS HERNANDEZ WAS A TACO LOVING MEXICAN. ASS EATER.

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I couldn't stand North as a host and was glad when he finally left the airwaves. That being said, I don't blame North one bit for what occurred. Especially since he didn't know Hernadez was a clusterfuck schemer.

North's job was to get talent. Of course it's his job to sell Webio as being the next great place. It's on the individual guy for making that choice to jump aboard a START-UP! Start-ups fail all the time. I saw flaws in the plan from the start. Being web content is fine. But its a younger median, and the main hosts were older and not "hip". People who stream web content and upload to their iphone/ipod are younger in nature.

I dont care what field you are in. Radio, advertizing, changing oil, fixing brakes. If a co-worker wants to start up a new "business" and i'm leaving entrenched job, it's my own fault.

Stop being a pretend tough guy Jason Goff. The only thing you should be concentrating on is enunciating. It sounds like you are talking with a mouthful of shit.

North is an ass hole, but let's get a couple of things straight. Everybody bounced back from webio except 2 people. Bock and Weber, right?

Ok. Who the hell were they anyway and why is there this notion that they were going to be radio stars? Let's be honest, they weren't gonna be stars. Just look at the Score right now. Had they stayed they would have still been behind Drinky and Goff who are still basically full time producers with some air shift bones thrown their way. Where were Bock and Weber gonna be right now at the Score? No where. Bock lets everybody know how little he made at the Score and how he had to get out eventually cuz he got sick of his wife bitching about his money. So North just helped him do it sooner than he would have done it. That's all. Maybe they like to tell their sob story of how they were on their way to being the next Bob Costas before webio. I'm just not buying it. If they really had any talent somebody would hire them.