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PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 5:57 pm 
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B&B either stated it or implied that Dwight Howard is a lock to deliver a NBA title. They were citing how trading for the best center in the game has always worked out and resulted in titles.

Bump this in 5 years if any of us are still alive.

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B&B either stated it or implied that Dwight Howard is a lock to deliver a NBA title. They were citing how trading for the best center in the game has always worked out and resulted in titles.

Bump this in 5 years if any of us are still alive.

Well they're at least half right. Bill Simmons broke this down recently and showed that in the last 40 years you always win a title if you trade for the best C in the league.

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howard plus rose = title

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Well they're at least half right. Bill Simmons broke this down recently and showed that in the last 40 years you always win a title if you trade for the best C in the league.
That's why I mentioned they were saying that.

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Well they're at least half right. Bill Simmons broke this down recently and showed that in the last 40 years you always win a title if you trade for the best C in the league.
That's why I mentioned they were saying that.

I guess it's a little pretentious to imply a title is a lock but it's not really an out on the limb prediction. I'm not sure what your point with this thread is.

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FavreFan wrote:
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B&B either stated it or implied that Dwight Howard is a lock to deliver a NBA title. They were citing how trading for the best center in the game has always worked out and resulted in titles.

Bump this in 5 years if any of us are still alive.

Well they're at least half right. Bill Simmons broke this down recently and showed that in the last 40 years you always win a title if you trade for the best C in the league.

This didn't work out too well when the Knicks traded for Eddy Curry.

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I guess it's a little pretentious to imply a title is a lock but it's not really an out on the limb prediction. I'm not sure what your point with this thread is.
That they think getting Dwight Howard is a guarantee that you win an NBA title regardless of the team. I don't think that is true.

I don't think the Nets win the title with Deron and Howard. Even the Bulls may not.

I'm just not sold that Howard equals Shaq in terms of winning titles.

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yeah because curry is nowhere near the player as shaq or gasol

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
B&B either stated it or implied that Dwight Howard is a lock to deliver a NBA title. They were citing how trading for the best center in the game has always worked out and resulted in titles.

Bump this in 5 years if any of us are still alive.

Well they're at least half right. Bill Simmons broke this down recently and showed that in the last 40 years you always win a title if you trade for the best C in the league.

This didn't work out too well when the Knicks traded for Eddy Curry.

Cuz he had no heart, amirite!

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yeah because curry is nowhere near the player as shaq or gasol

I disagree.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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I guess it's a little pretentious to imply a title is a lock but it's not really an out on the limb prediction. I'm not sure what your point with this thread is.
That they think getting Dwight Howard is a guarantee that you win an NBA title regardless of the team. I don't think that is true.

I don't think the Nets win the title with Deron and Howard. Even the Bulls may not.

I'm just not sold that Howard equals Shaq in terms of winning titles.

Well I'm not sure he is getting paired with a young Kobe and Phil Jackson either. I agree it's definitely not a lock and shouldn't have been expressed that way.

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I'm shocked the hornets didn't make a run when they traded for White Panther a couple years back.

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Does Derrick + Dwight = win 4 games out of 7 versus the Heat? I think yes

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Howard & Rose is a guaranteed NBA Title.

Given 2 full year shots at it.

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Does Derrick + Dwight = win 4 games out of 7 versus the Heat? I think yes


You have to think of who else would be on the roster. If you trade your whole team to get Howard you may not have much left on the roster.

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So does this make Luc Longley the best center in the NBA during the Jordan run?

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So does this make Luc Longley the best center in the NBA during the Jordan run?


Remember the three-headed monster with Longley, Perdue and Wennington?

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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
Howard & Rose is a guaranteed NBA Title.

Given 2 full year shots at it.


Agreed. I think you need a full year with each other in order to be great. This is a critical year for the Heat

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i hate dwight howard. i think if he came to chicago he would be somewhere between a carlos boozer and a ben wallace. fuck him. a giant walking dildo.

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Oden vs. Durant -- who do you pick #1? Obvious now, but back then, I think it was a valid question. I don't think centers are as important as they used to be; it is a bonus to get a center that can play any form of offense and it is certainly doable to win championships with an adequate defensive center.

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Oden vs. Durant -- who do you pick #1? Obvious now, but back then, I think it was a valid question. I don't think centers are as important as they used to be; it is a bonus to get a center that can play any form of offense and it is certainly doable to win championships with an adequate defensive center.


Cant really compare. WHo knows what POrtland does if Oden stays healthy? It isnt like Durant has 2 rings already.

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Missed the show, butdid Jason chime in by declaring once again that Howard isn't even a top 5 player? :lol:


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Hank Scorpio wrote:
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Oden vs. Durant -- who do you pick #1? Obvious now, but back then, I think it was a valid question. I don't think centers are as important as they used to be; it is a bonus to get a center that can play any form of offense and it is certainly doable to win championships with an adequate defensive center.


Cant really compare. WHo knows what POrtland does if Oden stays healthy? It isnt like Durant has 2 rings already.


I was never full impressed with a healthy Oden at OSU. I thought he played good defense and would have been a force on that end. His lack of basic footwork (trust me, i watched about 75% of his college games) troubled me. He scored a lot of his points by just being tall.


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Listening to the podcast now. For the record, Terry said that it's a good thing, and that team wins championships. Dan's exact quote is "Generally when the best center in the game is available, the team that gets him is in contention. Right away. Like the Heat for example." Made up radio, BRick. One said it. Not the other. Just stating facts.

Who can't envision the Nets becoming a contender by trading for Howard? A majority of the East is turrible this year. Of course they would become a contender. Lopez will be back next month.

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Mini Ditka wrote:
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Does Derrick + Dwight = win 4 games out of 7 versus the Heat? I think yes


You have to think of who else would be on the roster. If you trade your whole team to get Howard you may not have much left on the roster.


Everyone knows I'm against the trade but the Bulls have enough depth that it really wouldn't hurt them.

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Missed the show, butdid Jason chime in by declaring once again that Howard isn't even a top 5 player? :lol:


That's true. A top 5 player should require a double team and he should make those around him better. At the end of games Howard is a liability on offense.

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I agree that bringing Howard to the Bulls would equate a title. I still contend that Orlando isn't stupid enough to make that happen.


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ZephMarshack wrote:
Missed the show, butdid Jason chime in by declaring once again that Howard isn't even a top 5 player? :lol:


Lebron
Kobe
Rose
Durant
Wade
Paul

That's 6 off the top of my head.

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