so herpes and add cases should cover all bases..got it bud!

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Herpes wont keep ya out of the Hall of Fame

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Just to be 100% clear, he isn't really "innocent" in a true sense. His test was accurate, and his levels were far too high. Braun did not at any point formally challenge the science of the test. He accepted that.

What Braun challenged is the process. The person who administered the test took the results, sealed them, but didn't send them out immediately because FedEx was closed. He waited 48 hours to send it out (test was administered on a Sat night, he waited until Monday when they opened). The seal was never broken. The timeframe doesn't make the test invalid or anything, it simply didn't follow the process so he is let off.


So basically, to sum it up, Braun took PEDs of some sort. But he's off the hook due to a mishap in the process. This is why MLB is so livid.

Braun will forever have an asterisk.

If his testosterone levels were high due to a drug to control his violent herpes or crabs or whatever....I dont think there's an asterisk

WarriorDon, I really don't give a shit one way or another.

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Or a dripping foreskin.

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Cortisone steroids wouldn't raise his testosterone levels, they don't work that way. Two different types of steroids.

Braun got caught using PED's and is "innocent" on a technicality.

How would he test 5x higher than normal though?

Just another example of Jews working the system. Fuckin Reinsdorf.

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So, if Barry Bonds had herpes then everything he accomplished would be okay?

If you're going to cheat, you cheat BIG! (then blame it on herpes)

Ha! Remember, Jerry R. runs the league according to some on this very board! It's a vast Zionist conspiracy!

And again, it all depends on what that "highest ever test" actually was. If he got caught mid cycle or just after the cycle was finished, depending on his dosages, it wouldn't shock me.

He still failed to follow MLB guidelines. There is no excuse to have that reading. He can't and didn't fight any of it. That wasn't even his excuse in defending it.

He simply had the sample not count on a technicality. He is and should always be viewed as a cheater. It would be great if Congress called him to testify and we'd get a real answer as to whether or not he used PED's like the other guys had to do. Let's see if he's willing to perjure himself.

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Having herpes gives you a giant head?

Decent article from Jeff Passan:

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=j ... lig_022312

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Really? You think that's an apt comparison?

Let me know when Braun's Hr totals go up 30% and the Brewers start using his helmet as a hot tub, as the Giants did with Bonds.



Im just saying, if the guy passed every test ever and failed one which is likely due to meds he was on for the clap or whatever, then thats fine


So, its been determined the STD meds could not have caused this spike?

Agreed. Not to say that anybody nowadays is innocent, but Braun's numbers (and physical stature for the most part) have always been pretty damn consistent.

Now if this was overturned because of due process and whatever delay there was caused questions, I have zero issue with this being overturned. The rules and everything are set in place for a reason and if they weren't followed to a T, then you have to throw that particular test/sample out the window.

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I can't imagine a cortisone steroid, which is what is being reported so that's what I'm going on, would cause any spike in test levels. It's an anti-inflammatory. And lets play pretend and say that this cortisone steroid does increase testosterone levels....he still tested FOUR times highers than the highest ever test. It doesn't add up.

Synthetic testosterone would certainly raise your testosterone levels, though.

Also, I'd be pissed about the leaked report and test results if I were him, that shit is whacked.

It wouldn't matter. There is a standardized MLB protocol for situations like that. It's kind of like the guy who goes to GNC and accidentally bought a supplement with a banned substance. The reason doesn't matter. The results do. Otherwise, you'd have every player in the league claiming some sort of illness that requires steroids. For instance, back pain can be treated with steroids. You don't think that most athletes couldn't make a case they have back pain?

If we are going to demonize McGuire, Sosa, Bonds, A-Rod, and Palmeiro we need to be consistent here and also demonize Braun for being a cheater.

He got away with it for one reason only, and that is because the urine sat in a refrigerator instead of being in the mail. He was incredibly lucky that they won on a technicality.

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I disagree. I think there are certain situations where it does matter. If you can prove you were prescribed some medicine for a medical reason that caused the spike then Im not gonna vilify that as PED abuse.


Do you think he used PED's or was it caused by some medically prescribed drug for his AIDS or whatever

In my mind it doesn't matter - just like the NFL players that take unapproved OTC stuff that have hidden illegal ingredients. He didn;t follow protocol, he took something that obviously wasn't approved, he got caught either way.

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Yup.

In the end he will be convicted in the court of public opinion regardless of the circumstances behind his elevated levels. He's a big boy. It's his job to be mindful of what he's taking and the effects it can have on him.

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I'm saying it doesn't matter to MLB, or really any group that does drug testing. It can't matter because excuses are easy. You'd have a league full of "lower back pain" using steroids to help it.
I think he used PED's. He tested positive and got off on a technicality. It was simply a chain of custody issue. Now, in a court of law, I don't know if I could convict him, but in the court of public opinion he doesn't get the same benefit of the doubt. The evidence is pretty strong that he did.

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Didnt realize we had so many anti-semites here

Hi.

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If the medication you take for an illness also provides you with performance enhancing, then it is completely illegal. Just because he has herpes doesn't mean that his steroid cream didn't help him in other ways as well.

Also, Rafael Palmeiro never looked like a juicer, but he was. Not everyone is as blatant as McGwire, Sosa, and Bonds.