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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 9:28 pm 
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He's not sayin', he's just sayin', ya know?

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If the #Cubs trade Marlon Byrd, they'd be without an African-American for the first time since when? Pre-Banks days?


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Confirmed by @WayneRandazzo: #Cubs have not had a roster without an African-American since pre-Banks. Byrd trade could create one again.


I'm looking forward to a summer full of oblique references to racist suburbanites in cargo shorts.

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Hey, it happens sometimes. The Houston Astros went two or three years without an African-American. I think they won the pennant without any. I mean, I'm sure there were Dominicans, as there are on the Cubs, but they don't really "count" for these purposes, even though their forebears came from Africa and the Caribbean is considered part of the Americas. They're not "brothers," though. That we're even getting into the ethical quagmire of Black People Who Don't Count As Black People is kind of unfortunate and probably avoidable.

The fact that the Caribbean is a lawless wasteland of player development compared to the highly structured system for Americanadians, which requires you to actually draft them like actual human athletes and not just grow them in sketchy "academies," means there are fewer Americans of any color than there were in previous years. Ten years from now, you'll see no blacks at all!

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He's not sayin', he's just sayin', ya know?

@dan_bernstein wrote:
If the #Cubs trade Marlon Byrd, they'd be without an African-American for the first time since when? Pre-Banks days?


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Confirmed by @WayneRandazzo: #Cubs have not had a roster without an African-American since pre-Banks. Byrd trade could create one again.



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 10:12 pm 
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Who has a thought like that? Frankly, I wouldn't have even noticed. The one and only place in America where I think we're really beyond racism is sport at the highest level. I don't think any decisions are ever made based on a guy's skin color. And that's probably the single place in the U.S. where you could say such a thing today.

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Who has a thought like that? Frankly, I wouldn't have even noticed. The one and only place in America where I think we're really beyond racism is sport at the highest level. I don't think any decisions are ever made based on a guy's skin color. And that's probably the single place in the U.S. where you could say such a thing today.


This. When I saw the tweet (still hate that term), I didn't think much of it. If this turns into a thing on the show, I'm hanging my not interested sign. Too Skip Baylessy. Or would it be Skip Baylessie?

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Geez. Baiting much, Bernsy?

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2 Black (Holmes and Goff)
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Bernsie "Who are you crappin"

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What the .... do you think this is THE SPANISH INQUISITION?

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What the .... do you think this is THE SPANISH INQUISITION?


I don't text after ten on school nights. Are you adding to the top five? :D

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That we're even getting into the ethical quagmire of Black People Who Don't Count As Black People is kind of unfortunate and probably avoidable.


https://twitter.com/#!/dan_bernstein/st ... 7639137280

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The discussion of the #Cubs' (and, now, #Sox) roster has people misunderstanding what African-AMERICAN means. Stop saying Soriano.

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What the .... do you think this is THE SPANISH INQUISITION?


I don't text after ten on school nights. Are you adding to the top five? :D

No not at all....

But I agree with the majority here....I don't see a point in mentioning this....Bernsy will be the same guy who will say that one of the black callers has the imaginary KKK ghost in the closet or whatever.

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Why, oh why can't Spike Lee tweet this assholes address.

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Dave In Champaign wrote:
Curious Hair wrote:
That we're even getting into the ethical quagmire of Black People Who Don't Count As Black People is kind of unfortunate and probably avoidable.


https://twitter.com/#!/dan_bernstein/st ... 7639137280

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The discussion of the #Cubs' (and, now, #Sox) roster has people misunderstanding what African-AMERICAN means. Stop saying Soriano.


Marlon Byrd seems generally happy to be here and doesn't accuse everyone he sees of racism. By the standards of the last ten years, he might not be black, either.

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This is from just under one year ago. If the purpose is an attempt to get more African American kids in Chicago more involved in baseball, I love the cause. If it's an unnecessary race run by Dan, not interested. It could also be a couple random messages on Twitter. However, we are all responsible for those messages. I already knew that when I signed up. But someone else reminded me often over the last couple months.

NEW YORK -- The percentage of black players in the major leagues dropped again on Opening Day this year even as the sport again received a top overall grade for racial diversity.

Percentage of Black Players in MLB
Year Pct
2011 8.5
2010 9.1
2009 9.0
2008 10.2
2007 8.2
2006 8.4
2005 9.0
2004 9.0
2002 10.0
2001 13.0
2000 13.0
1999 13.0
1998 15.0
1997 17.0
1996 17.0
1995 19.0
1994 18.0
1993 16.0
1992 17.0
1991 18.0
1990 17.0
>> No study done in 2003
-- Institute for Diversity and Ethics in Sports
Baseball's grade for gender hiring declined slightly, according to the annual study released Thursday by Richard Lapchick's Institute for Diversity and Ethics in Sports at the University of Central Florida.

Baseball received an A for racial diversity in hiring, the same grade as last year, and a B-minus for gender, down from a B. Its overall grade remained a B-plus.

"A one-year difference like this must be seen with the perspective of the overall pattern baseball has been going in," he said during a telephone interview with The Associated Press. "If it happened two or three years in a row, it would be different."

The percentage of black players dropped to 8.5 percent on Opening Day this year, down from 9.1 percent at the start of last season and its lowest level since 2007. It was 17 percent when Lapchick began tracking the figure in 1990.

The percentage of Latino players dropped from 28.4 percent to 27 percent -- baseball's lowest since 1999's 26 percent.

"This has been a concern of Major League Baseball and leaders in the African-American community," Lapchick said. "However, the 38.3 percent of players who are people of color also make the playing fields look more like America with its large Latino population."

While Major League Baseball's central office received an A-plus for racial diversity and an A-minus for gender diversity, the 30 clubs fared more poorly.

The number of black and Latino managers dropped from 10 at the start of the 2010 season to six, and the percentage of black and Latino coaches dropped from 31 to 29 percent. No blacks were team chief executives or presidents and only Houston Astros president of business Pam Gardner fell into that category.

Black and Latino general managers dropped from five to four, and at the team vice president level percentages declined for blacks (9.8 percent last year) and women (18.2 percent). For the VP level, teams received a C to C-plus for racial diversity and an F for gender diversity.

Lapchick said baseball's overall gender grade nearly slipped to a C-plus.

"The old boys' network has a healthier life at the team level than at the central office," Lapchick said. "For the most part, I don't see any evidence of it existing at the central-office level."

Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.

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I want more Americans, period, playing baseball. The sport is losing too many people to basketball and football at the developmental level because there's more fast money there. I think investing in inner-city baseball is a worthwhile investment if you can keep kids playing.

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I want more Americans, period, playing baseball. The sport is losing too many people to basketball and football at the developmental level because there's more fast money there. I think investing in inner-city baseball is a worthwhile investment if you can keep kids playing.


I agree. The goal of MLB should be to have as many kids as possible playing baseball without concern about what they look like.

The underlying idea is that baseball doesn't care about American blacks, when actually the opposite is true- American blacks don't care about baseball. At least not the way they once did. You could probably say the same thing about white Americans too.

I do expect this to change as we learn more about how the minor sports scramble your brains and have the potential to leave you in a vegetative state at the age of forty.

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One of you creepy Twitter folks or Crappers should point out that because Jason is Belizian he is not african american and so the B and B show has no african americans either...even though they have slave labor with their free interns. I suppose it's considered indentured servitude when its white slavery

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One of you creepy Twitter folks or Crappers should point out that because Jason is Belizian he is not african american and so the B and B show has no african americans either...even though they have slave labor with their free interns. I suppose it's considered indentured servitude when its white slavery


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Charlize Theron and Ernie Els went on Ancestry.com and report that being from Africa doesn't make you black.

Ray Emery also reports that being called an African American while being born and raised in Canada would be incorrect.

WSCR diversity.....we have lots of......time for a scoreboard update.

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Yeah, and we need more Asians in Football and more Hispanics in Hockey and...what a bunch of crap! Kids choose the sports they want to involve themselves in. Trying to artificially alter the participation of any ethnic group in a sport is stupid. Besides, things are trending nicely :wink:

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I'm sorry, did someone hijack Elmhurst Steve's dormant account and start gimmick-posting? That was out there, even for him.

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I'm sorry, did someone hijack Elmhurst Steve's dormant account and start gimmick-posting? That was out there, even for him.


I wonder what the fake bet is this time?

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Well, I'd suggest Douchebag stop looking out the train window for the next couple weeks.

Edit: Too slow.

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Curious Hair wrote:
That we're even getting into the ethical quagmire of Black People Who Don't Count As Black People is kind of unfortunate and probably avoidable.


https://twitter.com/#!/dan_bernstein/st ... 7639137280

@dan_bernstein wrote:
The discussion of the #Cubs' (and, now, #Sox) roster has people misunderstanding what African-AMERICAN means. Stop saying Soriano.

:lol:


I love when Linsanity was going on and they were talking about Asians in the NBA

People were sending in names like Tyronne Lue and David Lee


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@dan_bernstein wrote:
The discussion of the #Cubs' (and, now, #Sox) roster has people misunderstanding what African-AMERICAN means. Stop saying Soriano.


I suspect the rubes that would be excited by an all-white Cubs team that Bernsie is fishing for would not make this distinction.

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